Beating roulette with math..

[Fripper]

Hey guys

Everyone who wants can provide me their hardest session in 200 spins. With hardest I mean with most differens between Red and Black.
Ex:
73/127
Differens is 54 as you can see between red and black.

The fellow member UK at roulette30 forum looked at 20 million spins or 100.000 sessions of 200 spins. There will never be less than 65 reds or blacks in 200 spins.

The member Belgian is explaining it all, well not all, but almost.

link:://rouletteforum.x/index.php/topic,9.0.html
link:://rouletteforum.x/index.php/topic,8.0.html

Here you have the Labouchere progression:
link:://:.x/2010/06/labouchere-progression-in-depth.html

Who will provide me with a real horror session? Then I will see if I can make a profit out of it.
I will use a "labby" as they call it, it's a progression, which Belgian states can survive any 200 spins and end with minimum 1 unit profit without reaching the table limit. I will begin to bet on the colour with less hits in the 200 spins.
I will use the "labby" with 64 zero's and a one. (To win 1 unit atleast)

This thread can also be a discussion about this concept.

Provide your spins in a text file so we can have this thread clean.

Thanks to Kav, Belgian, UK and all the others.

Cheers

[albalaha]

What is labby? can you explain a bit?

[superman]

link:://:.x/2010/06/labouchere-progression-in-depth.html

[sekuritati]

What is labby? can you explain a bit?

its the slang word for Labouchere progression

e.g. martingale = marty


@Fripper

i will follow this thread with great interest, good luck

[albalaha]

Labouchere is not capable of carrying long streak of losses, it will turn dangerous gradually.

[Fripper]

Labouchere is not capable of carrying long streak of losses, it will turn dangerous gradually.

And I assume you have tested with 64 imaginary zero's and a one?

This isn't the usual Labouchere like 1,1,2,3.
It can be : 00000000000000001

Anyone who can provide some spins?

From Belgian:
"I played this way with imaginary zero's starting with 0,1 the Hamburger Permanense (25-10-1999, Table 1) from spin 37 till spin 237 on R (RB or BR or RR), because in this session of 200 spins there are 69 Reds and 131 Blacks. Worse I could not find over the year 1999, and playing this session I won 17 units. Maximum bet was 304 units."

I'm not sure if he used the 64 imaginary zero's in that one tho.

[albalaha]

Dear Marcus,
          What are you saying? why 64 zeros? In labouchere you will pick red or black and your pick should go more than 50% to win minimum 6 units. Say, you pick red and in 30 spins it appears even 14 times and in next 20 spins, it comes 5 times only with distance, what will happen? Labouchere is not an answer my dear.

[superman]

@ Fripper

is this the correct method?

1,2,3 bet 4 lose                        -4
1,2,3,4 bet 5 lose                     -9
1,2,3,4,5 bet 6 lose                    -15
1,2,3,4,5,6 bet 7 lose               -22
1,2,3,4,5,6,7 bet 8 lose            -30
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 bet 9 win          -21
 2,3,4,5,6,7 bet 9 lose             -30
 2,3,4,5,6,7,9 bet 11 lose        -41
 2,3,4,5,6,7,9,11 bet 13 win    -28
   3,4,5,6,7,9 bet 11 lose         -39
   3,4,5,6,7,9,11 bet 14 win     -25
     4,5,6,7,9 bet 13 win           -12
         5,6,7 bet 12 win                0
            6 bet 6 win                    +6

Is that the laby you are intending to use?

[Fripper]

Dear Marcus,
          What are you saying? why 64 zeros? In labouchere you will pick red or black and your pick should go more than 50% to win minimum 6 units. Say, you pick red and in 30 spins it appears even 14 times and in next 20 spins, it comes 5 times only with distance, what will happen? Labouchere is not an answer my dear.

Sumit, Please read the threads posted before you say to much. The logic will come to you if you read it, it did for me. Altough I had to read it quite a few times.

I have done some testing with just 9 zero's and a one. The results have been excellent.

Look at Belgians posts..

---------------

"So we have to find away to get rid of these long losing streaks, or at least make them last as short as possible according to the probability. How can we do that?

Answer: by changing the odds of 50:50 into 75:25 or even 87:13.

How can we do that?
Answer: to combine 2 or 3 chances in one figure!

75:25: RB RB BB RR
87:13: RRR RRB RBB BBB BRR BBR BRB RBR

So play 2 decisions (pairs)(75:25) and treat them as one for the Labby but replace by a lost 2 zero's because that is only 1 bet (1:2)"

[Fripper]

@ Fripper

is this the correct method?

1,2,3 bet 4 lose                        -4
1,2,3,4 bet 5 lose                     -9
1,2,3,4,5 bet 6 lose                    -15
1,2,3,4,5,6 bet 7 lose               -22
1,2,3,4,5,6,7 bet 8 lose            -30
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 bet 9 win          -21
 2,3,4,5,6,7 bet 9 lose             -30
 2,3,4,5,6,7,9 bet 11 lose        -41
 2,3,4,5,6,7,9,11 bet 13 win    -28
   3,4,5,6,7,9 bet 11 lose         -39
   3,4,5,6,7,9,11 bet 14 win     -25
     4,5,6,7,9 bet 13 win           -12
        5,6,7 bet 12 win                0
           6 bet 6 win                    +6

Is that the laby you are intending to use?

Well no..and yes..

You have the main thing, the labouchere. But we start with 9 zero's and a one instead.

Read reply 30 by Belgian, in fact, read all his posts.
link:://rouletteforum.x/index.php/topic,9.30.html


You can start like this superman:

0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1

[Bayes]

Who will provide me with a real horror session?

Hi Fripper,

When I get home on Monday I'll write some code to find the worst deviations in 200 spins and upload them here.

[Fripper]

Hi Fripper,

When I get home on Monday I'll write some code to find the worst deviations in 200 spins and upload them here.

Thanks Bayes

I knew you would be the man on this.

Until then I will continue to test some of my own harder sessions.

Remember guys, the aim is to win atleast 1 unit in 200 spins 100%. It can also take 1 spin, but you should always play until your labby goes to an end, never have a stoploss, atleast that's what belgian says (and he seems to know what he's talking about).

I'm not sure if I can clear these horror sessions, if not, then we have to figure it out together.

Cheers and a happy new year.

[chrisbis]

@Fripper.

Am I right in thinking, that with A Labby set at the starting point of

64 zero's and a single 1, that after 31 spins, Ur BR would be down by 31 units?

I haven't pencil worked it out, just in my head in last ten seconds after finding this interesting new Topic.

I love maths.

[Fripper]

@Fripper.

Am I right in thinking, that with A Labby set at the starting point of

64 zero's and a single 1, that after 31 spins, your BR would be down by 31 units?

I haven't pencil worked it out, just in my head in last ten seconds after finding this interesting new Topic.

I love maths.

Hi Chris

You are right that you will be down 31 units if you bet red and it has come 31 blacks in a row from start.

I can give an example tomorrow with 9 zero's and a one, so you get the point.

[chrisbis]

I'm with U all the way.

Happy New Year buddie.

Have a good one.