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Title: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: Amazin on Apr 19, 12:08 PM 2012
something i have been thinking lately. I been playing rng with play money to test my idea. Before someone bring up the issue of play money mode vs real money mode, the rng im playing on doesn't have a real money option. Its designed to entertain rather than to make money and it is hard!

Basicall i been betting on single dozen, just by guessing with progression. With the right bank roll, you can easily cover yourself up to 10 mistakes.

This introduces an element of skill into the play. Your success will be based on your ability to get it right and with enough practise, you should be able to make a profit in the long run. Its like playing paper, rock, sissors. The problem with all systems is that we're trying to predict the future with a fixed set of rules and frameworks.

Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: GARNabby on Apr 19, 07:02 PM 2012
Quote from: Amazin on Apr 19, 12:08 PM 2012
Its like playing paper, rock, sissors.
No.  There's no subjectivity in the casino-games, aside from poker, or baccarat with the full complement of options.  You're not playing any human opponent who has any variable history, the tendency to play more of one of the options at particular sets of points in an overall match.

But at least you won't waste your time, productive years, and/or money with one mindless "system" after another.  Either have a bit of fun with it, not expecting more; or go learn some math/physics, and begin to forge a real risk/hassle-free career elsewhere out of some the smaller aspects of what is going on here.

You don't want to be another statistic on these boards, some guy who posted "forever", and then dropped "off the cliff" for one non-existent reason, or another.  Today's threads are only more of tomorrow's "get-rich-quick stuff" that never seemed to amount to anything... those are the real patterns around these places. 
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: warrior on Apr 19, 07:24 PM 2012
Quote from: GARNabby on Apr 19, 07:02 PM 2012
No.  There's no subjectivity in the casino-games, aside from poker, or baccarat with the full complement of options.  You're not playing any human opponent who has any variable history, the tendency to play more of one of the options at particular sets of points in an overall match.

But at least you won't waste your time, productive years, and/or money with one mindless "system" after another.  Either have a bit of fun with it, not expecting more; or go learn some math/physics, and begin to forge a real risk/hassle-free career elsewhere out of some the smaller aspects of what is going on here.

You don't want to be another statistic on these boards, some guy who posted "forever", and then dropped "off the cliff" for one non-existent reason, or another.  Today's threads are only more of tomorrow's "get-rich-quick stuff" that never seemed to amount to anything... those are the real patterns around these places.
May i ask why your on here for?
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 19, 08:24 PM 2012
You wil be like most people who play roulette (from what I hear), betting birthdays or any other random number and likely leaving with less. *I think they're called "ploppies".

Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 09:04 PM 2012
Take a standard die and toss it or shake it up.  What do you see?  Bet like this:

1.  1st dozen
2.  2nd dozen
3.  3rd dozen
4.  Col  A
5.  Col  B
6.  Col  C


You are letting pure random pick pure random.  You might be surprised how much fun you can have with a simple progression 1 1 2 3 4 6

You won't lose much when you lose and you'll get a ton of winners.

Trust me one time!

Sam

















Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: albertojonas on Apr 19, 09:11 PM 2012
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 09:04 PM 2012
Take a standard die and toss it or shake it up.  What do you see?  Bet like this:

1.  1st dozen
2.  2nd dozen
3.  3rd dozen
4.  Col  A
5.  Col  B
6.  Col  C


You are letting pure random pick pure random.  You might be surprised how much fun you can have with a simple progression 1 1 2 3 4 6

You won't lose much when you lose and you'll get a ton of winners.

Trust me one time!

Sam


what about 1-1-1-2-2-3 ?


or even play flat and when bellow zero recoup with a fibbo?
ex.


8-5-3-2-1-1  <--bellow zero 


::)

Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: warrior on Apr 19, 09:45 PM 2012
why use a dice just use the lines on roulette .
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: GARNabby on Apr 19, 09:50 PM 2012
Quote from: warrior on Apr 19, 07:24 PM 2012
May i ask why your on here for?
You certainly may, warrior.

Simply to have a bit of frivolous fun, during/after a hard day's work; maybe find a really-intelligent conversation, or two.  But not the sort of "fun" which involves in any way calling each other, "ploppies"; or the other sorts of strange "games" people often play.  (That would be a personal attack, beyond being realistic and informative.)
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 11:29 PM 2012
'Cause if you use a die, people think you're onto something and whisper about you behind your back.

Isn't that what it's all about?

Or not.............

TwoCat
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 20, 01:58 AM 2012
Quote from: GARNabby on Apr 19, 09:50 PM 2012
...not the sort of "fun" which involves in any way calling each other, "ploppies"; or the other sorts of strange "games" people often play.  (That would be a personal attack, beyond being realistic and informative.)

More the reason bettors need a reliable method and smart money management...
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Good system by the way TwoCat.  You could also implement 1 Red, 2 Black, 3 Odd, 4 Even, 5 High, 6 Low as well with the dice roll.  :)
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: marivo on Apr 20, 07:33 AM 2012
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 09:04 PM 2012
Take a standard die and toss it or shake it up.  What do you see?  Bet like this:

1.  1st dozen
2.  2nd dozen
3.  3rd dozen
4.  Col  A
5.  Col  B
6.  Col  C


You are letting pure random pick pure random.  You might be surprised how much fun you can have with a simple progression 1 1 2 3 4 6

You won't lose much when you lose and you'll get a ton of winners.

Trust me one time!

Sam

It works  :smile:
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 20, 11:35 AM 2012
Here's a staking plan I read about from Amazin
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Staking: A. Buddy progression:

Progression 1,1,1,1,1,1 (flat bet--wait for six acumulated losses and start at 3 times original bet, then increase standard martingale.) If hit, return to flat-bet 1 times bet.

Example: One Dozen progression: 1,1,1,1,1,1 (if six accumulated misses) 3,6,9,12 end
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 20, 11:36 AM 2012
Thanks, guys........

While running the Super Roulette Bot for a Brazillion spins I learned that random picking random was as close to perfect as we got.  Well, maybe.

Matt just left one day.  I've never known if someone killed him or if he found the "HG" and just decided not to share.  I will you one something:  Bet Voyager sure changed their rules.  I strongly suspect someone was taking them for some serious money.

But, maybe not.......

(The voices in my head never agree!!)

TwoCatSam
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: Robeenhuut on Apr 20, 12:24 PM 2012
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 09:04 PM 2012
Take a standard die and toss it or shake it up.  What do you see?  Bet like this:

1.  1st dozen
2.  2nd dozen
3.  3rd dozen
4.  Col  A
5.  Col  B
6.  Col  C


You are letting pure random pick pure random.  You might be surprised how much fun you can have with a simple progression 1 1 2 3 4 6

You won't lose much when you lose and you'll get a ton of winners.

Trust me one time!

Sam

If losing 34 u in 6 steps is not much and you will get tons of winners then you have a winning system.... But unfortunately the opposite is a case here. To lose at slower rate i suggest penthouse prog 111222333444.  112346 will kill your bankroll really fast.  Did you test it before? And if how many spins?
It sounds appealing - beating random with random but it does not work. If you tested it than you would find out that losing streaks of 10+ are quite common and to win 3 times in a row happens once in a blue moon.

Regards 
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 20, 12:30 PM 2012
Jeez, man, it's tongue-in-cheek!

Nothing wins; we all know that.  "Can't we all just get along?"

Samster
Title: Re: what if we don't use any systems?
Post by: vile on Apr 20, 01:35 PM 2012
I don't.......know.