(pp,b. 20.2.15)
1 6
2 30
3 6
4 16
5 14
6 24
7 30
8 29
9 33
10 7
11 16
12 3
13 3
14 18
15 2
16 25
17 6
18 5
19 22
20 21
21 10
22 22
23 25
24 19
25 15
26 3
27 24
28 2
29 14
30 15
31 19
32 11
33 14
34 35
35 34
36 22
37 7
38 19
39 19
40 3
41 12
42 9
43 20
44 4
45 10
46 33
47 29
48 33
49 7
50 8
51 15
52 31
53 24
54 34
55 36
56 6
57 35
58 17
59 23
60 19
cor,b. 20.2.15
1 20
2 14
3 29
4 19
5 13
6 25
7 15
8 25
9 24
10 14
11 31
12 28
13 20
14 27
15 25
16 2
17 34
18 18
19 34
20 35
21 33
22 0
23 4
24 15
25 3
26 22
27 8
28 1
29 32
30 13
31 16
32 21
33 18
34 0
35 14
36 1
37 6
38 28
39 11
40 21
41 2
42 20
43 13
44 25
45 14
46 15
47 25
48 0
49 19
50 31
51 2
52 30
53 0
54 18
55 15
56 1
57 23
58 10
59 15
60 15
lad,s. 20.2.15
1 9
2 8
3 17
4 24
5 28
6 9
7 0
8 6
9 23
10 28
11 32
12 16
13 21
14 5
15 20
16 3
17 22
18 28
19 8
20 1
21 19
22 34
23 0
24 14
25 7
26 10
27 36
28 27
29 15
30 25
31 32
32 10
33 10
34 24
35 36
36 21
37 29
38 25
39 22
40 36
41 22
42 29
43 14
44 12
45 16
46 32
47 36
48 5
49 17
50 15
51 2
52 36
53 16
54 34
55 28
56 28
57 23
58 33
59 36
60 17
wh.enf 6.1.15
1 5
2 7
3 20
4 30
5 20
6 7
7 14
8 8
9 15
10 16
11 11
12 27
13 16
14 11
15 30
16 6
17 26
18 15
19 5
20 6
21 25
22 28
23 0
24 26
25 16
26 24
27 27
28 24
29 2
30 8
31 15
32 17
33 14
34 29
35 31
36 6
37 6
38 29
39 4
40 12
41 18
42 6
43 19
44 18
45 19
46 34
47 25
48 35
49 4
50 16
51 29
52 22
53 26
54 17
55 18
56 23
57 9
58 24
59 8
60 1
lad,stev 8.4.15
1 0
2 20
3 30
4 16
5 30
6 18
7 14
8 6
9 5
10 24
11 1
12 2
13 20
14 12
15 32
16 32
17 6
18 12
19 14
20 13
21 13
22 7
23 23
24 24
25 32
26 3
27 29
28 24
29 30
30 18
31 14
32 26
33 23
34 10
35 27
36 24
37 25
38 22
39 16
40 31
41 26
42 30
43 9
44 3
45 19
46 12
47 29
48 36
49 31
50 33
51 7
52 0
53 14
54 31
55 30
56 28
57 19
58 13
59 9
60 25
cor,san 8.4.15
1 17
2 23
3 4
4 32
5 32
6 5
7 0
8 30
9 33
10 14
11 29
12 18
13 6
14 36
15 7
16 10
17 8
18 26
19 27
20 27
21 31
22 11
23 15
24 30
25 33
26 29
27 15
28 7
29 18
30 5
31 3
32 23
33 24
34 7
35 23
36 0
37 36
38 35
39 6
40 30
41 32
42 18
43 21
44 10
45 34
Played these just now, cheap spining the 1st 10 spins, 6 Ds, so if no zero money back. well its amazing first play on machine 4, 5th spin zero. Spins 10,11 both win so win £3.40 but less the sneaky f--kers £1.20. Same play on all machines, total win for about 20 minuets £12.40, there you go D Darko catch the bus, use your time table
Lad,s 10.4.15 Lad,s 10.4.15
1 23 1 0
2 24 2 34
3 7 3 12
4 26 4 13
5 0 5 24
6 12 6 4
7 8 7 29
8 7 8 33
9 21 9 19
10 34 10 11
11 22 11 27
12 20 12 2
machine four machine one
Lad,s 10.4.15 Lad,s 10.4.15
1 28 1 36
2 14 2 27
3 18 3 5
4 5 4 21
5 21 5 4
6 13 6 30
7 36 7 20
8 25 8 35
9 23 9 25
10 6 10 3
11 17 11 14
12 31 12 15
machine two machine three
lad,stev 8.2.15
1 0
2 20
3 30
4 16
5 30
6 18
7 14
8 6
9 5
10 24 9(10) 1 repeat
11 1 10
12 2 11 again £3.40 less the sneaky zero from the 10 cheap spins, so £2.20 for about 5mins, so global
13 20 draw and inspired gaming machines probaly recognise this pattern of cheap spins and know to
throw a zero in. Tried using £1 units but always makes it hard to win, is it because going from .20p units
the software changes the program
lets look at corals sandy 8.4.15 new game on machine number2
1 0 So after moving from machine 1 to 2, take receipt, insert ticket all this done in say 1 minute.
2 31
3 29
4 13
5 14
6 15
7 0 R
8 11
9 12
10 10 9(10) If as now reckoned the cabinet gives the numbers, is its software capable of recogniseing the
11 28 11 pattern of cheap spinning,if so is this why in this game we get 2 zeros to take away £2.40 from
12 17 12 the winnings of machine 1, where we had wins on spins 10 and 11 giving a return of £3.40, so now
13 0 R profit is £1.
14 7 13 So now we're down to a pound profit, again we get 9 out of 10, spins 10,11 win giving £3.40 profit
15 34 14 now we've £4.40, next spin zero so profit £3.20.
16 5 15 Is it just the brain saying cheating f*****s, making us parnoid of rng.
17 3 As posted in another topic , cut to the chase the bet said 15 numbers which to my game play come
18 19 in within 3 spins usually(avg) so lost 1st 2 spins now bet, laid the 15 numbers i thought but missed
19 20 one, and yes the one not placed is the winner, this happened twice in 1 week, so is there software
calculating everything.
lad,s 10.8.15
ok when we arrive the 1st eleven are aleady there, we're interested more in last 10 spins, which shows 2 repeats,
now is it a paying out day or ladbrokes need money,so 2 repeats in ten,how will my 1st 10 spins go,answer 9/10,
but do any repeat from those 11 already there. 21 is a repeat,12 repeat,9 repeat,36 repeat and 19 is the repeat
in my 1st 10 spins, so in ten spins we see 5 repeats, half the spins, could be a ladbroke day.
Now i expect 15 numbers KTF (0x's in GUT) in next 30 spins.
12
18
8
36
21
13
9
35
9
2
36
1 26
2 21
3 12
4 9
5 15
6 31
7 16
8 36
9 19
10 19 We now watch the trot,KTF avg says numbers up to 19th number hit in 2 spins
11 14
12 25
13 10
14 34 four 0x's on trot
15 15
16 21 two repeats, now bet the non hit (0x's)
17 14
18 26
19 1 well takes 5 spins to hit,ususly see 7 0x's hit in spins 11 to 20, so bet the 0x's again
20 36 repeat. So 5 hit, plus zero, 10 0x's needed for the KTF avg of 15.
21 26
22 10
23 24 takes 4 spins to hit the 15th number. the non hit still low, so bet the 22 0x's
24 6
25 22 two non hits on the trot. Looking like a repeating game.
26 31 spins 21 to 30 would usualy see 12 non hit,hit
27 24
28 9
29 29
30 0 But we're showing of the last 20 spins 10 are 0x's and 10 >1's.
31 14 So i'd expect to see 5 more 0x's (non hit) in next 10 spins
32 11
33 20
34 33
35 13
36 24
37 26
38 12
39 23 here you go 15 0x's with 1 more spin which is a repeat
40 21 so 15 in 30 spins
41 9
42 7
So a tricky trot but with +1/-1 and GUT to reference the trot i win 64 units starting with .20p units
nottophammer,
If you think they are cheating with the zero's.
Wait about 5 spins when you going for free spins and bet 0's see what happens.
Flat Betting against 1,3,2
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 08, 05:56 PM 2015
(pp,b. 20.2.15)
1 6 1 1 L
2 30 3 3 L
3 6 2 1W
4 16 1 2W
5 14 3 2W
6 24 2 2L
7 30 1 3W
8 29 3 3L
9 33 2 3W
10 7 1 1L
11 16 3 2W
12 3 2 1W
13 3 1 1L
14 18 3 2W
15 2 2 1W
16 25 1 3W
17 6 3 1W
18 5 2 1W
19 22 1 2W 19*2=38 W13*3=39 +1 LEAVE
20 21 3 2W
21 10 2 1W
22 22 1 2W
23 25
24 19
25 15
26 3
27 24
28 2
29 14
30 15
31 19
32 11
33 14
34 35
35 34
36 22
37 7
38 19
39 19
40 3
41 12
42 9
43 20
44 4
45 10
46 33
47 29
48 33
49 7
50 8
51 15
52 31
53 24
54 34
55 36
56 6
57 35
58 17
59 23
60 19
against 1,3,2
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 10, 04:52 PM 2015
cor,b. 20.2.15
1 20 1 2w +1 LEAVE
2 14 3
3 29 2
4 19 1
5 13 3
6 25 2
7 15
8 25
9 24
10 14
11 31
12 28
13 20
14 27
15 25
16 2
17 34
18 18
19 34
20 35
21 33
22 0
23 4
24 15
25 3
26 22
27 8
28 1
29 32
30 13
31 16
32 21
33 18
34 0
35 14
36 1
37 6
38 28
39 11
40 21
41 2
42 20
43 13
44 25
45 14
46 15
47 25
48 0
49 19
50 31
51 2
52 30
53 0
54 18
55 15
56 1
57 23
58 10
59 15
60 15
60 SPINS -12
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 10, 04:56 PM 2015
lad,s. 20.2.15
1 9 1 1L
2 8 3 1W
3 17 2 2L
4 24 1 2W
5 28 3 3L
6 9 2 1W
7 0 1 0L
8 6 3 1W
9 23 2 2L
10 28 1 3W
11 32 3 3L
12 16 2 2L
13 21 1 2W
14 5 3 1W
15 20 2 2L
16 3 1 1L
17 22 3 2W
18 28 2 3W
19 8 1 1L
20 1 3 1W
21 19 2 2L
22 34 1 3W
23 0 3 0L
24 14 2 2L
25 7 1 1L
26 10 3 1W
27 36 2 3W
28 27 1 3W
29 15 3 2W
30 25 2 3W
31 32 1 3W
32 10 3 1W
33 10 2 1W
34 24 1 2W
35 36 3 3L
36 21 2 2L
37 29 1 3W
38 25 3 3L
39 22 2 2L
40 36 1 3W
41 22 3 2W
42 29 2 3W
43 14 1 2W
44 12 3 1W
45 16 2 2L
46 32 1 3W
47 36 3 3L
48 5 2 1W
49 17 1 2W
50 15 3 2W
51 2 2 1W
52 36 1 3W
53 16 3 2W
54 34 2 3W
55 28 1 3W
56 28 3 3L
57 23 2 2L
58 33 1 3W
59 36 3 3L
60 17 2 2L
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 07, 05:49 AM 2015
60 SPINS -12
insurance on zero. If flat bet, then only needs .20p - would have won enough in last post to move on.
But i've seen plenty of 60 spins games where no zero.
It would be better if could FLB, but each of the last 3 sheets win with 1-1 3-3 9-9.
Remember this is RNG so 99.9% of you wont be playing here.
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 07, 04:53 AM 2015
Flat Betting against 1,3,2
I dont see any LLL so why not do 139 and finish fast
RNG truly scares me
The way i see it is even if the rng is totally random its sort of hard to play a system based off real wheel patterns. It is a software and created by humans. So it most likely does not behave like a real live wheel
Of the rng works fine for u then disregard this
You are in UK why not play airball or one of the good online casinos you have access to?
lad,san 21.12.15
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Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 21, 11:54 AM 2015
lad,san 21.12.15
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Acting quite normally, and as expected. I often wondered if software could avoid your spins, but what it chooses to cause you to lose would appear to be random, i,e. around 2/3 hit and 1/3 done with around 8 repeating.
Quote from: Turner on Dec 21, 01:38 PM 2015
Acting quite normally, and as expected. I often wondered if software could avoid your spins, but what it chooses to cause you to lose would appear to be random, i,e. around 2/3 hit and 1/3 done with around 8 repeating.
So good for 12 unique
Ladbrokes cambourne 4.1.16 1st day back on RNG +£15.00
Monitored the 1st12 unique like in Jackpot Joy, went okay. Both 60 spin games win using KTF, Game 1 +£45 10th spin of betting #0, Game 2 +£55 5th spin of betting #25. Using +1/-1
1 35 1
2 14 2
3 7 3
4 5 4
5 12 5
6 29 6
7 11 7
8 27 8
9 16 9
10 5 x
11 1 10
12 19 11
13 2 12 unique
14 2 1 w
15 32 2
16 21 3
17 5 4
18 24 5
19 24 x
20 0 6
21 36 7
22 13 8
23 28 9
24 28 x
25 24 x
26 18 10
27 36 x
28 31 11
29 20 12 unique
30 8 1 L
31 12 2 L
32 23 3 L
33 14 4 L
34 3 5 L
35 4 6 L
36 24 7 w
37 23 x
38 8 x
39 18 8
40 24 x
41 5 9
42 27 10
43 33 11
44 8 x
45 23 x
46 3 x
47 35 12 unique
48 34 1 L
49 33 2 w
50 36 3
51 3 4
52 1 5
53 21 6
54 5 7
55 35 8
56 9 9
57 3 x
58 15 10
59 2 11
60 1 x
61 4 12 unique
62 6 1 L
63 35 2 w
64 2 3
65 36 4
66 17 5
67 34 6
68 29 7
69 0 8
70 31 9
71 26 10
72 3 11
73 14 12 unique
74 9 1 L
75 25 2 L
76 35 3 W
77 32 4
78 23 5
79 0 6
80 2 7
81 31 8
82 9 x
83 9 x
84 4 9
85 26 10
86 15 11
87 36 12 unique
88 4 1 w
89 34 2
90 8 3
91 36 4
92 36 x
93 3 5
94 31 6
95 10 7
96 28 8
97 32 9
98 20 10
99 0 11
100 3 x
101 10 x
102 31 x
103 19 12 unique
104 23 1 L
105 19 2 w
106 29 3
107 32 4
108 20 5
109 12 6
110 33 7
111 35 8
112 15 9
113 0 10
114 6 11
115 11 12 unique
116 28 L
117 16 L
118 6 w
119 33
120 2
121 16
122 10
123 7
124 31
Flat bet? Minor progression?
If this bad boy works on RNG surely it works on airball
RG
Been playing KTF for some time, found the best way to bet is +1/-1. On the sheets i show the workings using £1 units, but in the betting shop you must use .20p units, as max bet is £100.00.
On your airball machine use the cheapest unit on the single numbers using +1/-1, next time you go b+m take a copy of my sheet, i'll bet you after the 1st 10spins the next 30 spins you'll be close to 15.7654 numbers.
If you look at those 2 sheets the 1st sheet is 26 numbers in 40 spins, so less the 1st 10 spins of 9 numbers hit, it gave 17 numbers so plus 2, as i round down to 15 #'s in 30 spins.
Now as the 2 sheets are one continuous set of numbers, the program needs to keep balanced,so the next sheet shows a minus figure +2 and -3 nearly balanced, if you checked the e/c,dozens they'd be nearly balanced, but the ? is how does one handle the repeats. +1/-1 looks the best way to date. Remember if using £/$ 1.00 units as soon as 50/60 is won Stop, wait a while or go to a different machine,your airballs must be spinning at diferent times, so if you believe they are running a program the machines will be different. Think of Winkels Gut where he shows LOTT, he quotes 12 in 24 spins, KTF 15 in 30 spins, much the same, and my record comes from RNG results
The 1st 12 unique is still an on going test, but shows great potential,of all the sheets posted on 12 unique, have only 1 loss. At the moment it is a 9 chance progression. Rayman and Jimmie b suggested 1,1,2 if lose start next time 3,4,6, this will have to wait untill say the end of the month when i will have posted 30+ sheets, we will then see if a profit can be made. If not in profit, then will have to look at changing the pro: This test is airball auto using cammegh wheel
Your posts are very valuable, Notto.
Big Thanks!
Lad,cam 4,1,16
Okay we've these numbers from todays play in ladbrokes,we've seen possible to win £100 on KTF, even 12unique wins.
So how about betting agains the last dozen ? ? ? ? would we win
1 35
2 14
3 7
4 5
5 12
6 29
7 11
8 27
9 16
10 5
11 1
12 19
13 2
14 2
15 32
16 21
17 5
18 24
19 24
20 0
21 36
22 13
23 28
24 28
25 24
26 18
27 36
28 31
29 20
30 8
31 12
32 23
33 14
34 3
35 4
36 24
37 23
38 8
39 18
40 24
41 5
42 27
43 33
44 8
45 23
46 3
47 35
48 34
49 33
50 36
51 3
52 1
53 21
54 5
55 35
56 9
57 3
58 15
59 2
60 1
61 4
62 6
63 35
64 2
65 36
66 17
67 34
68 29
69 0
70 31
71 26
72 3
73 14
74 9
75 25
76 35
77 32
78 23
79 0
80 2
81 31
82 9
83 9
84 4
85 26
86 15
87 36
88 4
89 34
90 8
91 36
92 36
93 3
94 31
95 10
96 28
97 32
98 20
99 0
100 3
101 10
102 31
103 19
104 23
105 19
106 29
107 32
108 20
109 12
110 33
111 35
112 15
113 0
114 6
115 11
116 28
117 16
118 6
119 33
120 2
121 16
122 10
123 7
124 31
Now betting against last dozen with double dozen could be a winner, but you need to know when to take the win.
By this i mean you could be +£13.00 on spin 23, is that enough starting with £1.00 units
Spin 30 breaking even, so should you take the win? Theres another 94 spins if we want .
Ray
These two games are in the same shop corals,machine 4 and then 2.
To me you can see these are not random as M2 follows M4, both 7 non-hit in spins 11-20, spins 21-30 5 more non-hit and spins 31-40 5 on M4 and 4 on M2, we end M4 +2 17 non-hits in 30spins, M2 +1 16 non-hit in 30 spins. Seems to good to be true, random Ha
Here i was virtual betting watching the last dozen, not playing KTF.
M4 i make £9.60 betting double dozens,jumped to M2 thats just come vacant, Now this is abit different, to virtual spin i have to bet 6 d/s, no cover on zero, as you can see i take a hit 4 times as 1st 10 spins have been left so that zero's already been.
I manage to win £1.40 making £11.00, time 50 minutes.
Remember this is RNG (bookies).
Okay on Jackpot joy which is airball you can see in spins 11-40 its average is 15.59259 non hit in 30 spins.
So if you look at these 2 games corals and ladbroke, one is -3 the other +2.
Corals at 60th spin is 27/60, on jackpot joy we see 30.5/60
Won £20.40 corals,lad £21.00 Just over 1 hours play.
Played KTF only on 1st 2 spins, both games,took the win. Tracked grassroots picked up the odd win. Watched 12 unique all was success,but only watched.
Seemed okay to me, acted just like airball
oh yes look at the 11#'s in left margin, track how they played
corals
12 unique using RNG, not enough spins to see if last 12 will win
1 29 1
2 1 2
3 3 3
4 26 4
5 32 5
6 18 6
7 7 7
8 21 8
9 31 9
10 28 10
11 30 11
12 35 12
13 25 1 L
14 33 2 L
15 1 3 w 24
16 28 4
17 31 5
18 12 6
19 36 7
20 2 8
21 2 x
22 1 x
23 3 9
24 15 10
25 15 x
26 7 11
27 19 12
28 7 1 L
29 26 2 L
30 1 3 w 24
31 29 4
32 11 5
33 15 6
34 0 7
35 8 8
36 1 x
37 31 9
38 30 10
39 2 11
40 25 12
41 1 1 w 24
42 3 2
43 33 3
44 6 4
45 18 5
46 8 6
47 26 7
48 25 8
49 20 9
50 9 10
51 25 x
52 32 11
53 6 x
54 3 x
55 9 x
56 36 12
57 7
58 27
59 5
60 15
ladbroke
12 unique using RNG, not enough spins to see if last 12 will win
1 34 1
2 13 2
3 22 3
4 29 4
5 21 5
6 22 x
7 10 6
8 25 7
9 33 8
10 9 9
11 23 10
12 7 11
13 23 x
14 31 12
15 33 1 w 24
16 11 2
17 17 3
18 9 4
19 7 5
20 13 6
21 4 7
22 16 8
23 19 9
24 6 10
25 20 11
26 18 12
27 13 1 w 24
28 10 2
29 18 3
30 30 4
31 7 5
32 9 6
33 1 7
34 8 8
35 8 x
36 28 9
37 12 10
38 27 11
39 8 x
40 18 x
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
Hour and ten minutes £29.60
KTF went okay, 12 unique ok.
perhaps Falkour can reverse this win.
the 30 minutes warning came up and finished about another 5 minutes later.
Great Notto, you hammered it!
Careful with money, hehe >:D
Rg
2 visits to the machine of death,LOL.
Both played like a dream £34.20 for an hour
Heres the #'s also in topic daily mail £24.80
What system are you using?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 28, 08:30 AM 2016
What system are you using?
A mix of millionaires system and 35 numbers.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 28, 08:30 AM 2016
What system are you using?
RG, you were waiting for this, admit!
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 28, 08:30 AM 2016
What system are you using?
KTF, Keep The Faith, plain speaking, playing the non hit of the wheel or mat. Clue, look at avg: doc in jackpot joy
Where do I find the instructions on how to play this?
Have 10 spins. Lets make it simple, no repeat, so there are 27 numbers that have not hit.
Now you bet the 27 non hit using +1/-1. If one of the 27 hit,the next bet is the 26 non hit,if it lost you bet the 26 again raising the units to 2.
Like jackpot joy today After the 10 spins,the bet was 29 non hits, it lost, this is where you Keep The Faith, KTF, rebet with 2 units total 58, win. Now bet the remaining 28 non hit.
Today won on 14th spin of betting.
So spins till come in is, 2,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,1 +£57.00 now stop.Your choice go to another wheel/table or wait for all 37 numbers to hit,then have 10 spins, start to bet.
Now think of GUT, you bet in KTF spins 11-60 stopping when 50 or +50 or as near to 50 as you like. After the 10 spins if you get 4 wins on the trot, say there was 10 non hit in the 1st 10 spins + the 4 that have just won, that would be 14 unique numbers.
So the bet would have been 27+26+25+24= 102 units out return 144 units making +42 units, remember as near to 50 as you like.
So after the 14th unique hit making a profit of +42 would you bet 23 units hoping the 15th unique would hit,if it lost you'd be down to +19, so me i'd stop, and restart on another wheel or in my case go to another FOBT in another shop. So like in gut watch the trot, in the example 10 unique left 27 to bet, after 4bets we are at 14 unique so would you bet 23 0x's, when you are +42
Okay ladbrokes first
Theres the last 11 #'s in margin, these #'s only #35 has not hit.
My 1st 10 spins gets 9/10. All repeat in the 59 spins.
I was £5.20 up at spin 11, by spin 26 i was down £160.00 at least,reason i did not stick to the KTF idea,instead i bet the 1st 12 unique would come in, i started betting after the 18th spin, £2.40 only start with .20p units, well on spin 26 lost the £72.00 bet, the ironic thing is after spin 21 i carry on betting the 12 unique,but also place the new uniques of next 12,i stopped betting these as i need to use the wedge on the 1st12 unique that lost,this is the ironic bit its to the 1 st unique of the 2nd 12, if you can understand, but the very next spin and not able to bet it,it comes in,so did the machine play me.No of course it didn't as i bet £20 the 1x's and win,4 times on the trot,lose £20 so bet £21 win next 3, so the old BR is coming back, as you can see from the scribblings we still get wins.
But look at how many non hit, hit in 30 spins, spins 11-30, yes you got it, 15, that avg is good.And of 59 spins 30 non hit have hit, only 7 non hit to find. Remember this aint airball or live its the machine of death named by ghost,lol.
Now corals across the square, what i dont like is its still global draw, so will the program in ladbrokes be happening here?
Again theres 11#'s left, in 45 spins only 1 to find.
My 1st 10 spins only 4 to find after 35 spins, looks much the same as ladbrokes?
better in here, but look how fast the non hit are coming, we usually get 15 in 30 spins,well we've got them in 20 spins, so start betting for the repeats. At spin 40 the 30th where we get the 15 non hits has got 18 so +3,but the repeats come.
So after the 2 shops down £35.00, should forget 12 unique as we know it loseses in jackpot joy thread,
Okay lets see if KTF what i crow about can handle the machine of death.
Well blow me down it wins, what a surprise, i say.lol
Even at 40th spin its only down 228 units, but 8spins later +122.
Corals played the way you want it to play, but +57
So KTF killed the machine of death
Well on the machine of death RG.
Lad enf 1 played like a dream £17.50 under 30 minutes.
Lad enf 2 Well in the 1st 10 spins thought i'd bet the double dozens, make a couple of quid. Well by the 20th spin i'm on 8-8, but whilst trying to get back the old BR i can see the 14 th non hit hit early and has repeated for 3 spins. So forget the DD's and on21st spin bet the 23 non hit win, a little bit out of the GLC hole, So with countback showing that 15th non hit is on time, i bet the 22 non hit win, next NB 17 th non hit hits, its early so bet the 17 1X's win, back to £99.60.
Anyway with tracking KTF turned a potential loss in to a win £110.80 took the £10.80.
2 different machines but in same shop look at the bottom of the boxes 4*10 Look how similar good old 15 in 30 spins
Now this is the perfect KTF game, after the 1st10 spins only 8 non hit.
Well how about that 9 on the trot.
Ididnt bet just watched after spin 15 istarted betting the 1X's 2.60,2.80 you see, bet next 3 spins 21,22,23 as repeats out the door £11.00.
Good day all round even if lad 2 was a nightmare.
20 minutes out the door £27.75
see the pic with all the different roulette games, theres only 2 anybody with a brain would play,thats original roulette and the next one to it, first 2 from the left, middle row, as for the rest steer clear
On the sheet can you see how early the 19th non hit is
Heres the 2 games Paddy Power then Corals.
Hope a computer boff reads this.
On a RNG suppliers web site it says they have x amount of servers.
What exactly is the server doing, would one server supply one shops 4 machines, or, all ladbrokes machines.
I just would avoid " Rick`s American Casino". That # 22 on command hit twice in a row.
4 games today around 90 minutes play, watching the trot and watching the numbers on the marquee left by the previous player.
.20p short of £60.00
Best game is with £30 free play Game 4
Better post here as its RNG, used all the KTF info. +21.50for .25p units
So someone left the 12 numbers in the left margin, last10 are unique but 1 repeat in the 12. Off we go collecting 10 spins always watching for a repeat, so i bet 16 unique at 6th spin, no another non-hit, rebet win, rebet win.
Now its the watch game,at spin 13 i bet for a repeat of my 12 spins and the margin #'s, lose, rebet and up the units, win.
Just kept watching, cheap spinning £1.50 i'm using .25p units, yeah another zero.
Anyway 11-20 is 6+1,15th is early, could gone for repeat,but thought wait, yeah 2 repeats,so now bet for the 16th,win. Again just watch, spin 28 the 20th come, early, so bet the 20 to repeat,win, rebet lost. 21st came making spins 21-30, 12+2,so bet the 21, win, rebet lose,22nd come again early, so rebet 22and up the units,win, rebet for 1 unit win. Back to watching couple of spins another zero, nicked the £1.50. We end 40th 23-1.
now i'm well interested in the 24th, i can bet the 14 non-hit for 7 spins with 1,1,2,4,10,20,30 so you can see 7 repeats, if i'd started at spin 36 would have lost,be at max bet, so i see this the other day go 12 spins, so i thought what Winkel says if not sure,then don't bet, so i cheap spin, yes it come in, Gutted. Now its watch time again, at spin 60 we have seen avg here is 30 non-hit, so i reckon every 3 spins we could get a non-hit, well look 24th 1 more than the 3, but look every other spin, its to good, 4 of the expected 7, and to rub salt in the wound another zero. Well 4 straight repeats, i go for the 28th,win.
But now can you see 29,30th hit one after the other, time to leave.
The lad game played KTF up to spin 22,in profit not a lot but practice what i preach take the early win. Just watched the trot,got a few repeats, +10.80 for 20 minutes.
Crossed the square corals, where all the big Plasterers are, if only you could hear them.
Celtic,
corals, left margin #'s left by last player, now in my 10 spins see the dots, they are the 9 #'s in the margin 6 repeats, so this straight away makes me think Corals want money in, and the way the plaster is bleating it could be.
So i just watch the trot, 8 in,on time, repeat, avg to come in is 2spins so bet for the 9th non-hit, win. Watch countback 11 early,just, so watch repeat, i'll wait, remember those words Winkel says not sure then dont bet, another repeat,now 3 of those 7 have repeated,30,23,8 we've had 4 non-hit in 7spins, the margin repeat loads so i think i'll wait, repeat, now go for it,win 5 non-hit right on time, so i'll watch, 6+1. Keep watching countback showing 14,15 early, if the 14 had come in the 1st10 it would been 7+2, so if 15 is one of the expected 5, 4more non-hit to come, not sure, so i watch, repeat,wait repeat, 6 spins left to get 4 more,no wait,16 come,wait 17th comes,countback shows 17 early so i'll go for another non-hit,but then change to bet the 17 for 3.40 win, watch 18 comes, thats 5 non-hit again 18 is early,bet for the repeat,win +11.20 out the door, plasterer still doing his bol-ocks
Haha, I always liked Charles Dickens and Agatha Christie's humorous style of writing, even in serious situations...
Thanks Hammer!
Celticknits Lads game 1 28.2.16
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Now this is using KTF, but as rng i'll post it here.
Hills 1st game, so we keep track of the marquee #'s left from the last player, in my 1st 10 spins. 2 of the marquee repeat,so seems like it could be okay going for the non-hits, but we just watch, at 15th spin its 14-1,so go for a repeat,win. 19th spin its 16-3, again go for the repeat,win.
So the count is spins11-20 7,+2 or all 20 spins 16-4. Now the puzzle, if we look at all 20 spins, we are at halfway point of KTF which says at spin 40 we could/should see 24 NON-HIT, so a possible 8 non-hit in 20 spins, now we just watch, repeat, then 2 more non-hit,making it 18-5,so i'll go for the repeat,lose,chip up,lose,its now 20-5,so chip up, win, relay the 20 at 1 unit,win. Back to watcing,we end 21-9.
So a possible 3 non-hit in spins 31-40, Back to watch, 22nd,repeat,23rd, thats 2 of the possible 3,in for the repeat,win,rebet lose,thats the 24th non-hit, 5 spins left, the 35 spin count is 25-10,surely got to get more repeats, so go for the repeat and win. Rebet lose so KTF is already +1, rebet chip up, win. Cheap spin, yeah a bloody zero nicks my 6 DS,KTF +2,just like the previous counts, go for the repeat, win. +£14.80 using .20p units, out the door.
Over to ladbrokes much the same, so watch the trot. Break even,that'll do.
Was going B+M but nah use the Machine of death LOL
Paddy power watching the for the 26th non-hit, can bet it in PP for 9 spins, now 9 spins have repeated,now seen it take 17 max, so my 9 could get me to 18 spins, but it came 5 later.
Use your KTF, 12 unique,Gut and LOTT knowledge and you'll be a winner.
Here you go 82 spins Paddy Power using the trot.
3 games with jumps total £30.40 for 75 minutes of play using starting unit of .20p
RG Machine of death or ATM
Hey Notto, would you mind explaining what are these new numbers 5.4 5.2 10.4 5.0 4.8 9.6 19.2 13.8 in the table? And numbers above table: 121411 223 511321…
Do I need to understand them?
Well, that way I’ll be less confused. You don’t need confused students of yours.
Thanks
Quote from: nextyear on Mar 13, 01:43 AM 2016
Hey Notto, would you mind explaining what are these new numbers 5.4 5.2 10.4 5.0 4.8 9.6 19.2 13.8 in the table? And numbers above table: 121411 223 511321…
Do I need to understand them?
Well, that way I’ll be less confused. You don’t need confused students of yours.
Thanks
The line in red is the stake laid. Its using .20p units, as the max bet is £100.00. See the 13th non-hit came, then the 14th took 4 spins, if it lost on the 4th spin which it does sometimes, as its Max is 6 spins, the 4th bet is £96.00, so you/I on the FOBT would not be able to raise the stake, so to get over this you use .20p units.
Now 121411 223 511321… is the spin register just a visual aid for watching, if you look in avg doc: you would know that up to the 19th non-hit there avg to hit is 2 spins.
The Big X in spins 1-10 are showing me that these 1x's have repeated during spins 11-60, so if you are watching Celescliffes 1-4 BR's topic you can see in spins 11-20 #12 opens, 3 spins later it closed winner. If you say #4 opens as BR1 again you dont see #4 for another 53 spins so empty BR1. #30 BR2 never come so empty BR2, #13 BR 3,10 spins later win.
So you can KTF and 1-4#'s using this sheet.
Hope that helps
Thanks a bunch, Notto!
Let's learn...
Btw, can West Ham do some damage on Old Trafford?
Fowl on the keeper. Get em down upton park be a different came
So, you are West Ham Hammer!
Popped in under the hour +22.45
Lads, ktf ok, waited picked up 2 repeats watching the count.
Corals lots of talk,so bit hard keeping track,KTF ok, again watch the count picked up the repeat. So stopped, try to explain LOTT and KTF, probably a waste of time, There plasterers.
Stopped off as usual. Ladbrokes first with my free £10 bet that i turned in to £14.40 with 1 spin. Over to corals, interesting marquee #'s,in my spins 1-10 only 1 from the marquee, so with the marqueee and the spins 1-10 having 18 unique i thought better to not start KTF, but look 3 non-hit straight away, so spin 12 i thought i'd bet for a repeat of marquee and my 12 spins, mucked up the stakes left off 12 and 26, didn't matter lost, so rebet add the last 3 spins so £4.20, now i thought if comes in i'll take the small loss,yeah in they come, so - .60p on BR, now the marquee still only hit once and 1st 10 not repeated, so you've got to rebet, win, br +£2.40.
now we have to watch the trot/count, now 19th non-hit is early and after 19th the non-hit average to hit in 3 spins, so lay the 18 lose, chip up win. Back to watching, again 22/23rd non-hit early and its 13 non-hit to 9 1x's in last 22 spins so in for the repeat win. yeah back to watching, now i know i can bet the 14 remaining non-hit 7 times, so i'll wait, its sixth spin its in,thats 14 of the nonhit in, next repeat so thats 15 repeats, yeah lets go for the 15th, yes win.
So Math boys 15 in 30,
good to read about your adventures at the bookies nottophammer ......
:thumbsup:
i used to play roulette at bookies my fav method was
for RNG
pick secound to last outcome
e.g 23 32 16 12 18
would pick 12
place bet on 12
on the street belonging to 12 also on the column belonging to 12
3 chips
on the next spin what ever the outcome
move on to next in line secound to last outcome
in this case would be 18 and follow it up
doing the same as you play keep adding chips to sides corners etc for the chosen number depending on your bank roll
starting with lowest bet chip e.g 0.10p
bit risky but good when it hit for me it was quite often asoon as hit what ever outcome
leave after that session
:question: :yawn: :smile:
RNG using knowledge from KTF and average document 21.25 under an hour, using .25p chips
Average doc the rng one i have shows betting 21units, max seen 9 spins, in shop can bet 4 times, so we know its avg to come in is 2 spins, so waited 5 spins,win.
So forget all the old hot air the general spouts on about. Look at the count
Back from the FOBT +22 for .25p chips, if you play on FOBT you know why you use .25p chips
RG used your 10#'s to bet 27 non-hit on lads game one :ooh:
+42 then as Priyanka wants 50/+50 goes tits up.
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 15, 04:32 PM 2016
RG used your 10#'s to bet 27 non-hit on lads game one :ooh:
+42 then as Priyanka wants 50/+50 goes tits up.
-Notto
What a surprise.
Greed Kills eh?
I think I heard that about greed being a killer around the forum once before. :wink:
-Celtic
I would have done great
I personally would go for 1 or 2 wins and switch machines
My casino has 15 airball machines
Once im positive, i dont care if im only positive 1 unit, im switching machines
I dont care if it doesnt make sense or if its fallacy.
After im positive im switching terminals and a new wheel
I can tell you one thing
When i play my numbers i have no luck
So if i play ktf with my numbers i should be the next Trump.
RG haven't looked at your #'s.
But look at top game spins 1-10, 5/10, so i carried on watching the trot/count and also started another game with spins 11-20 for 2nd game.
+20.50 for .25p units, about 40 minutes
Was not going to put this up P.P.B game, but see roulette fans praise for GUT so here it is +11.50 using .25p units as Paddy power and Co want you to plaster £1 units, so you get to max bet quicker.
Just watched the trot,used knowledge from the average document and good old visual COUNTBACK.
Oh yeah General :lol:
Polished the crystal ball :lol:
Turner in my roulette world i have 37 due numbers, those 37 on the FOBT usually have all been hit within 120 spins, i suppose you'll give me the sd #, but i dont need it thanks i have the FOBT average for non-hit, there max to hit, stake chart taking in consideration for avg and max to hit.
I even gave you discription on how the FOBT works sometime ago.
Answer to the puzzle is 0x,1x,>1x dont need the math, thanks. As i said you need to know the wheel,be it live or the mickey mouse picture of a wheel that you are going to use, study the beast till you are, repeat confident you know how its going to react.
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 25, 06:14 AM 2016
Turner in my roulette world i have 37 due numbers, those 37 on the FOBT usually have all been hit within 120 spins, i suppose you'll give me the sd #, but i dont need it thanks i have the FOBT average for non-hit, there max to hit, stake chart taking in consideration for avg and max to hit.
I even gave you discription on how the FOBT works sometime ago.
Answer to the puzzle is 0x,1x,>1x dont need the math, thanks. As i said you need to know the wheel,be it live or the mickey mouse picture of a wheel that you are going to use, study the beast till you are, repeat confident you know how its going to react.
I think you posted in the wrong post. I quoted it in the other post
No i did not want to be off topic i used RNG, so replied here
Lads,paddy power
Thanks Notto!
Thought i'd post it here,the General got no reason to look here as its mickey mouse roulette :twisted:
Celts todays 2 games around 35 minutes, +136 units, not bad for just watching the trot, Lads got a bit hairy,but just "KTF" that the repeats would come at 14,+4
Quote from: nottophammer on May 10, 12:29 PM 2016
Thought i'd post it here,the General got no reason to look here as its mickey mouse roulette :twisted:
Celts todays 2 games around 35 minutes, +136 units, not bad for just watching the trot, Lads got a bit hairy,but just "KTF" that the repeats would come at 14,+4
-Notto
Had to laugh that you mentioned to just KTF.
That same KTF thought was running through my head last night at the B&M where I could not find a betting entry point on one wheel and on the second wheel, that I did play, there were 4 single repeats in the first 14 spins.
Glad it worked out for you.
-Celtic
Mother-in-law run
So 1st stop willie hill watching trot and resets +45.75
Cross over to Ladbrokes again watch and resets, lot harder +11.75
out ladbrokes into Paddy Power,same again +22
Turner
Remember sometime ago the repeat double # came up, around a 1,000 odd spins, well lets just look at last nights little game in corals and this is not to cause trouble :thumbsup:
In the margin are the #'s from last player, the ? is how long ago they were spun.
But we see 22,22, then 29,29. Now the hot # brigade will be looking :question:
So we see spins 1-10,yes 35 is hot. But is the Fobt algorithm giving doubles, is the marquee an indicator for #'s to repeat? 27,27 next 35,35 - 8,8 - 36,36 - 22,22
Still just playing to known avg made 38 units good enough to move to another machine, Ladbrokes +24 units,62 units for around hour play, who needs 9 hours in a shitty old B+M, cough.
Now the hot # brigade will be looking :question:
Ran the numbers for £1 unit +21. not bad, but if i could use £1 watching 0x and 1x, the £7.60 won for .20p units would be +38.
So MJ, Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master, correct.
I've done my time and would be better of than the hot number.
So will i get the finger or excellent contribution
don't care so much about those clowns
you do good work
LOL, Thanks Mr J, true to form, i'll look for your last post and give it the finger, the game goes on :thumbsup:
caught you, Mr J your in the wrong topic, big dogs dont read rng
Ayk
Its all about the trot, forget the fancy maths and Steves bollox. You only need to watch, understand the trot, the rest can fu ck off.
Think 0x's, then 1x's, then 1x's+>1x's, thats all there is to it.
37 #'s due, oh forgot nothing is due :lol:
ayk
this morning, same shop, if you got the pm watching the non-hit that where really fast and last 20 spins could see 5 more. Still walked out +41 units
Is this ktf?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 27, 01:16 PM 2017
Is this ktf?
No RG, its just watching the trot of the starting 37#'s, using the averages from the document posted.
2 games just now down the market square, 1 is in corals the other betfred. Since betfred took over ladbrokes, i thought betfred would change from supplier SG,to inspired gaming, but they are contracted till next year the manager said, so this is both games from SG gaming,
Different shops but same supplier,look how fast the non-hit have come 15,+5 and 14,+4.
Still have to watch countback as this shows how fast or slow the non-hit are coming.
KTF would win both games, for anyone new KTF is just betting the non-hit with +1/-1
My local casino has the computer rng. Just not sure how long we have to bet.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 27, 04:11 PM 2017
My local casino has the computer rng. Just not sure how long we have to bet.
The FOBT has about 60 seconds before it goes to the home screen, even if i'm deciding just hit the game icon and its where it left off, but the last bet option has gone, as it thinks new player.
If you are just watching how the non-hit are hitting, the time you make a decision to bet you might be down to say betting only the remaining 17 easy to get them on.
Say 13 non-hit have come straight away, your at winkels reference point 13, and no repeat, countback has13th non-hit could have come on spin15/16, so its fast for non-hit, best wait as it costs nothing apart from your time, to see if gets to 15 non-hit,no repeat, if does that, the avg 5 non-hit in spins 11-20 has been reached but the usual avg you see is 7,+2 so now you could bet for repeat. What would hotties be betting, those 15 that have come
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 02, 08:28 AM 2016
Turner
Remember sometime ago the repeat double # came up, around a 1,000 odd spins, well lets just look at last nights little game in corals and this is not to cause trouble :thumbsup:
In the margin are the #'s from last player, the ? is how long ago they were spun.
But we see 22,22, then 29,29. Now the hot # brigade will be looking :question:
So we see spins 1-10,yes 35 is hot. But is the Fobt algorithm giving doubles, is the marquee an indicator for #'s to repeat? 27,27 next 35,35 - 8,8 - 36,36 - 22,22
Still just playing to known avg made 38 units good enough to move to another machine, Ladbrokes +24 units,62 units for around hour play, who needs 9 hours in a shitty old B+M, cough.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/08/28/temp_573610.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/mFpB) This is 117 spins in total, 3 games thru resets. I should have walked at spin 21 in game 2,+30
The sheet is interesting for hotties and the Late Ralph( thought peeps knew he'd passed) catch a double.(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/08/28/temp_738740.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/mO89)
I walked +20 around 90 minutes Just watching for betting opportunities, perhaps i should listen to my own advice, get out of the stream of #'s, a new stream could be better.
Well Nottto just showed steve how to use FOBT's, shame some dont listen. Turbo/denzie fucking love it
As you all must be bored shitless with nothing coming here some #'s from Paddy Power about 2 hrs ago. End +22.50for .25 unit
Don't know how T/D would go but from looking at the sheet #4 and #25. Forgot this machine shows hot and cold + zero, hot showing 15,5,6,8,9 Zero 28 spins
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if any look reset after spin 40
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Down the town, no clipboard with the sheet, as I was not going in to the shop, but as had to wait, might as well visit the machine of death as RG once called it.
So you see I made the mat and wrote down marquee #’s; 11 #’s showing.
Now my intention was to bet R 1’s after spin 20, making me have to wait 9 spins.
So the machine requires a bet every time of £1.00,
Now, that requires 6 double streets to be bet, less the zero.
1st bet is #5 that makes 1st R1. So what is the average to hit? Answer 2 spins, so we watch the spin, #2 that is non-hit 11 in, I disregard the #10 use only the #’s from 12 down.
It’s still watch time and you can see the larger group are doing the expected every 1/37 spins, now #18 hits, so what’s the average for non-hits in spins 11-20, answer,7,+2; so here we are at the average, now bet that the 17; 1 hits repeat, thank you very much.
Just watch, if you looked at the 11-20 average posted yesterday you would have seen 7 non-hits is top, then 6 and 8.(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/10/04/source1422b.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/tKxm1)
So no bet for spin 20 but it repeats and it is an R1, so just 2 R1’s, decide I’ll wait for 4 R1’s.
This spin is a repeat and goes R1, now recall what the average to hit is and it’s every 2 spins up to the 19th non-hit, so here’s the bet, cheers another win.
Back to just watch, spin 25 another goes R1, so now start to bet, good decision to wait, only risking the units on the 6 double streets, Now we are under way betting 4 R1’s, by the end of 30 spins we have 6 R1’s being bet. Spin 31 is the last time units of 1 bet, # that comes is 32.
Now it’s up to units of 5, and #9 hits, going R1, so 7 R1’s to bet, #27 goes R1, that’s 8 R1’s. Next spin #30 goes R2.
I’m now +81 units, so I leave.
For the General, that extra pocket is no problem,
Spin 35, we’ll never know, but to me this game started 10/10, and all known averages have helped; so spin 35, would it get the 25th non-hit? Up to the 26th non-hit, they average to hit in 3 spins; LOTT already there, countback has the 24th non-hit spins 37/38, if stayed I’d wait till spin 38, if the non-hit had not hit, it would be bet time.
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Nextyear the (+1 Hidden been looking for sometime LOL
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 04, 07:04 AM 2018Hidden
who might this hidden be?
Tuner or Steve? or both?
:)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 04, 07:06 AM 2018
who might this hidden be?
Tuner or Steve? or both?
:)
Or AKA General
Well FOBT in bookies wont be playing there no more in 2019, with a max bet of £2