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Started by Johnlegend, Mar 29, 04:47 PM 2011

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marivo

Quote from: vundarosa on Apr 03, 01:51 AM 2011
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ahhh, the matrix.exe, THE MAGIC Matrix.exe!
@Marivo, do this then Set the Matrix.exe:
*Analyse Doz
*Matrix Size--> 5
*Progression lost--> 4
*Formation to check--> vertical quads
*Play with trigger --> no
*Reset matrix -->only after a win

NOW, run your spins through and let me know if you EVER GO BEYOND 2nd STEP! ;D

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ok just went to 3rd step :-(, still a win thou

vundarosa


I did exactly as you describe only that I have used trigger! And got 1 loss on those spins from BV no Zero which maestro posted.

vundarosa

Quote from: marivo on Apr 03, 05:18 AM 2011
I did exactly as you describe only that I have used trigger! And got 1 loss on those spins from BV no Zero which maestro posted.

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@marivo,

i think the jury is still out, but last i remember the "no zero" table had more probabilities of losing than a zero table. I rembember John saying that its the zero that actually made this system work, or something along those lines.

BTW, i play on rng, 5 units profit, fast forward the game 100 spins and shut down the system for 30min-1hr. I have NEVER gonne over 2nd step yet, no trigger.

Been playing through your spins (from rng william casino) and playing continuously i got to 4th step already, no trigger. I don't know if you were making some bets or not, but rngs are infamous for producing spins to counter your bets, specially if played continously...

vundarosa

vundarosa

Quote from: Twisteruk on Apr 03, 03:27 AM 2011
Vundarosa, do you play this on a 3x Grid ? How many 5 pointers have you seen for Columns ?



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yes. 3x grid, 5x and *7x*  ;), live. i've seen on the 3x grid a three 5 pointers on columns.

Betting against quads forming on a 5x grid, no trigger would have bust the progression on columns twice, one due to zero appearing, the other i do not recall if zero was involved or not, two different casinos live play.

so when it comes to columns i am extra careful. I play with it waiting for double trigger as there are still alot of betting chances that shorten my stay at the table.

on doz betting against quads, i'm yet to go over 3rd step, no trigger.

vundarosa


Twisteruk

Quote from: vundarosa on Apr 03, 05:49 AM 2011
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yes. 3x grid, 5x and *7x*  ;), live. i've seen on the 3x grid a three 5 pointers on columns.

Betting against quads forming on a 5x grid, no trigger would have bust the progression on columns twice, one due to zero appearing, the other I do not recall if zero was involved or not, two different casinos live play.

so when it comes to columns I am extra careful. I play with it waiting for double trigger as there are still a lot of betting chances that shorten my stay at the table.

on doz betting against quads, i'm yet to go over 3rd step, no trigger.

vundarosa




Thanx for the heads up, appreciate it  :thumbsup:

Its Set In Stone =)

ZigZag

Be careful if your playing coloums. You will get a trigger much quicker with columns but at what cost?

When i used to play matrix30 i have seen an 8 loss followed by a 7 in a row. I havent tested against 5 pointers but i always keep my eyes on it with the tracker and they tend produces much longer streaks of 1 columns much more regular.

If your going to play columns then play with smaller chips

Johnlegend

Quote from: vundarosa on Apr 03, 05:49 AM 2011
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yes. 3x grid, 5x and *7x*  ;), live. i've seen on the 3x grid a three 5 pointers on columns.

Betting against quads forming on a 5x grid, no trigger would have bust the progression on columns twice, one due to zero appearing, the other I do not recall if zero was involved or not, two different casinos live play.

so when it comes to columns I am extra careful. I play with it waiting for double trigger as there are still a lot of betting chances that shorten my stay at the table.

on doz betting against quads, i'm yet to go over 3rd step, no trigger.

vundarosa


Hi Vundarosa Twister and myself are about to start testing columns as a way to speed turnover. Thanks for your feedback. I already know COLUMNS are a bit more unpredictable than dozens. So I think even live a TRIGGER may be wise.

Johnlegend

Quote from: ZigZag on Apr 03, 06:29 AM 2011
Be careful if your playing coloums. You will get a trigger much quicker with columns but at what cost?

When I used to play matrix30 I have seen an 8 loss followed by a 7 in a row. I haven't tested against 5 pointers but I always keep my eyes on it with the tracker and they tend produces much longer streaks of 1 columns much more regular.

If your going to play columns then play with smaller chips
WISE WORDS, from Zig Zag. I will be taking his advice for sure.

Twisteruk

Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 03, 06:53 AM 2011
WISE WORDS, from Zig Zag. I will be taking his advice for sure.

Yup, me too  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

Post

i had an idea if we play live why dont use 3 steps and no trigger because you could recover mutch faster to 26 units than 80 and the max 5 pointers live seen is 2 so you would be playing your 4th bank when you have 80 total  ;)

Twisteruk

Quote from: Post on Apr 03, 07:14 AM 2011
I had an idea if we play live why don't use 3 steps and no trigger because you could recover mutch faster to 26 units than 80 and the max 5 pointers live seen is 2 so you would be playing your 4th bank when you have 80 total  ;)

Yes, I agree. And the most ive seen is two also  :xd:
Its Set In Stone =)

ZigZag

Quote from: Post on Apr 03, 07:14 AM 2011
I had an idea if we play live why don't use 3 steps and no trigger because you could recover mutch faster to 26 units than 80 and the max 5 pointers live seen is 2 so you would be playing your 4th bank when you have 80 total  ;)

Results are looking positive so far to do that. Maybe double up after a 3 step loss?


marivo

Quote from: vundarosa on Apr 03, 05:30 AM 2011
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@marivo,

i think the jury is still out, but last I remember the "no zero" table had more probabilities of losing than a zero table. I rembember John saying that its the zero that actually made this system work, or something along those lines.

by the way, I play on rng, 5 units profit, fast forward the game 100 spins and shut down the system for 30min-1hr. I have NEVER gonne over 2nd step yet, no trigger.

Been playing through your spins (from rng william casino) and playing continuously I got to 4th step already, no trigger. I don't know if you were making some bets or not, but rngs are infamous for producing spins to counter your bets, specially if played continously...

vundarosa

I was  just spinning it again today (William Hill CASINO CLUB ) in playing mode and here are the spins (6878 spins). It was French roulette rng. I tested again (this and previous 5518 spins from yesterday) with Matrix.exe with settings:

5x wide matrix and 3x wide matrix, dozens and columns
4 step progression
against 5 pointers (quints)
with trigger
resetting after each win

All progressions won!

Just a curiosity: I have an old spins from november last year when I was testing F_lat_ino's system  on BV no zero rng table, fun play (about 430 spins). I couldnt beleave it but those spins DID lose with same settings of Matrix.exe as I show above on 5x wide matrix for dozens and as I said in only 430 spins. So as you said: be careful with BV no zero!

By the way, what rng are you playing?


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atlantis

Playing without trigger on 3x matrix using "movements" (real numbers)
L=left
R=right
S=same

[reveal]
[table=,]
col1,col2,col3,
L,S,S,
R,S,R,
L,R,L,
R,R,S,
S,L,S,
S,R,S,
0,R,R,
R,S,S,
S,S,R,
L,R,R,
L,L,S,
S,S,R,
S,L,S,
L,S,R,
R,L,S,
R,L,S,
R,S,L,
L,R,S,
R,S,R,
L,R,S,
0,R,R,
L,L,L,
R,L,L,
L,S,S,
S,L,S,
S,L,R,
S,L,L,
L,S,S,
L,L,R,
L,R,L
L,S,R,--TRIGGER QUAD L.L.L.L. in col1
S,L,L,--w+1 (col1)
[/table]
[/reveal]

96 spins.

There were also 4 TRIPS in there which failed to become QUADS.

A.

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Post

well zig zag i say double up after 26 wins still havent seen it lose though  ;)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Post on Apr 03, 07:14 AM 2011
I had an idea if we play live why don't use 3 steps and no trigger because you could recover mutch faster to 26 units than 80 and the max 5 pointers live seen is 2 so you would be playing your 4th bank when you have 80 total  ;)
I Think that makes sense Post you sacrifice some strikerate for a faster turnover and fatser overall growth of your BANKROLL. And with the option to play the dozens and columns things become alot more appealing.

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