37 back to basics

[jono1167]

I think this might the most important post in the thread. But I admit I am having a little trouble interpreting it. There is someway of playing the numbers out and connecting them. I am just not sure what the trigger is, maybe you are starting with two numbers as bookends and playing all numbers in between 12-16 numbers if that makes sense. Why? Because as we know there will never be 12 empty boxes in a row. The hits will expand in a line. Just need to figure out the starting point. Any ideas?

Hi Irish
Passion put a post on the Vaddi forum a couple of days ago. See below. He talks about ‘12 holes’. I’m picturing the AYR tracker with a big gap of unhit numbers (12 holes). When a large gap like that opens up, that would be the trigger.

“When you have a margin of 12 holes, 4 unique, play those 4 unique and their 4 paired, you will be playing 8 in a space of 12, 4 only that can repeat and 4 not left, that can come out.
Of 24, then the same but with 8 and of 36 the same but with 12.
I'm saying too many guys, I've probably said the most important thing to open everyone's mind, surely many will continue to say that I do not contribute anything, but I just contributed more than all the clues that are given in this forum, only with this comment.”
Passion Rouletta

[Bigbroben]

You think by saying " hole"  he was refering to a "band width" on the tracker?  I think you're right!
He! I thought it was a mistranslation and meant marqueee.

Mmmhh, good point.

[jono1167]

You think by saying " hole"  he was refering to a "band width" on the tracker?  I think you're right!
He! I thought it was a mistranslation and meant marqueee.

Mmmhh, good point.

You could put through a minimum of 12 spins, obviously they could end up being sprinkled about evenly. Alternatively they could be grouped together in one or two places allowing for a 12 number gap or hole which could then be exploited....

[Irish88]

I take holes meaning boxes on the tracker Ben. The boxes or holes fill up. What I can't figure out is say you pick 12-16 numbers, are you continually betting on those numbers? So a section? Or is it changing all the time? The problem for me is I only play on live wheels in the US. You can't have your phone at the table. I think the tracker is an amazing tool. But I can't really use it at a live casino. I can try to keep some sense of it in my head. Pairs and gaps and what not. I think most people on this board play online so they can use the tracker. I can't. And in the US...you basically can't play online.

[Bigbroben]

Or any time in a game, if in a 12 nr range ( say 23 to 34) there are 4 hits then play the nrs and the +pair?

[nottophammer]

But I can't really use it at a live casino.

At your B+M, don't they supply pen+paper? As i've said i use paper trackers. The floor staff have asked what i have there; when they see it's just a sheet of A4, they walk of smiling.
I've used the GUT one but waiting for crossings i can't do.
This one i've posted showing betting for repeats, ie; Turbos repeaters. So it shows Ayk's top line

Take it along pencil in the spins. Let us know if they say you can't use it.
Oh yes like TCS i laminated it; saves using endless sheets, use whiteboard markers

[nottophammer]

This graph is the spins in Vaddi

35 spins.
It started 8/10; so add 15 to the 8; 8+15=23

Still 2 spin left Generals LOTT is already there, so lets see if we get 2 repeats.

[nottophammer]

So 24 non-hit.

[6th-sense]

For sure the gaps are bound to be reduced in size as the spins go by.  Of course anything is possible but at the end of 37 spins, the widest gaps between blocks are 2 or 3, hardly ever 4.  Maybe with unbalance of distribution?  If at spin 10 there is 1 block of 5, 1 block of 2 and 3 standalone, play neighbours of standalones or play for a repeater in the main block?

Maybe this type of observation could result in seeing a new way of considering inbalance?

not everything is possible in 37 spins to happen  for instance you can,t go beyond 18 unique standalone numbers with no pair or repeat the next spin..ie 19th spin theres not enough room across the board without one or the other happening..thats impossible

[Bigbroben]

Ok I agree to that, but is there a way to play against this event that is profitable long term flat bet (or pos. prog)?

Or is there a way to play this "something that always happens in 37 spins" in a profitable way, with less-than-usual variance?

[Person S]

Hi guys!
I tested such a system, there were many hits, but in the end it failed.
Perhaps you can improve

[Person S]

Hi guys!
I tested such a system, there were many hits, but in the end it failed. we put on the numbers that have fallen out.

Perhaps you can improve

[Irish88]

Just need to do a quick explanation of the mechanics of roulette even though this thread is only about one cycle...

You will never get 37 unique numbers out ever that 1st cycle will have to have at least one unhit and one repeat

The mechanics of roulette is simple..

At spin 37 unhit and repeat will be equally the same

Every spin beyond will add a difference of one repeat to unhit

Ie spin 38 the repeats will be one higher than unhits

Ie spin 39 the repeats will be 2 higher than unhits

Ie spin 40 the repeats will be 3 higher than unhits and so on

Take any number say spin 74 the repeats will be 37 higher than unhit count

The repeats ALWAYS go up further in relationship to the 1st cycle finishing and the spin count you look at

Now if roulette was truly random this shouldn’t be happening

This is the mechanics of roulette beyond 37 back to basics

Guys I think this post has been very overlooked. I was studying the charts on the first few pages and what 6-th says is fact.

Unhits and repeats will be exactly the same after a  37 spin cycle. I am not a math guy but this has to be what is meant by something has to happen or law of the third. Just figuring how to apply it it. Maybe someone else can figure it out how to exploit these facts.

[Person S]

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Alas, we know what will happen at the end of the 36-37th spin cycle - repeat or unhit

[Irish88]

Well if you look at the 37 boxes, 24 of of them will be taken up. That leaves an average of 12-13 unhits across the 37 boxes. What is the avg gap of the open boxes and the hits? 2?  I honestly don't know. But it seems very rare to see 4 empty boxes in a row in a cycle.