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Title: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 01, 01:35 PM 2012
---I bet you didn't know this.


--That last 12 splits are beating further 6 splits like Bolt does Blake.


---Therefore we are now betting here; last/recent/ 6 splits----versus---penultimate 6 splits.


---Short explanation in excel.....


---Stop whenever you wish...as in plus with this  you always are when DUE BETS are level.


---Good luck and don't give up on this one.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 01, 01:55 PM 2012
What is penultimate ? Oldest, furtest ?
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 02:13 PM 2012
Penultimate is second back.

FTL is Follow the Last, so Penultimate is follow the second to last or next to last.

2 Numbers back on the Marquee.


Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 01, 02:19 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 01, 01:55 PM 2012
What is penultimate ? Oldest, furtest ?


---Should be self explanatory,if betting on last 12 splits of 18,but here;

  That's why it is call -ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER--

--In other words 6 splits in front of last 6......or middle 6 of 18,or further 6 of 12 we are betting on.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 01, 02:54 PM 2012
Quote from: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 02:13 PM 2012
Penultimate is second back.

FTL is Follow the Last, so Penultimate is follow the second to last or next to last.

2 Numbers back on the Marquee.


--Wrong Nick......6 splits back.......imagine 18 splits as 3 dozens,6x3,therefore penultimate
here is mid 6 splits...or last 6 splits in our bet here...1--2---3---penult.=2
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 01, 03:33 PM 2012
Nick mate,
I would have a request/never did before/as think this will show good.


If you are going to do a tracker,could you do so that I can test any session from Wiesbaden
individually.Hope you do.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 04:21 PM 2012
"If you are going to do a tracker,could you do so that I can test any session from Wiesbaden
individually.Hope you do.
"

Does this mean you wish to input each number as it is spun by a live dealer or airball into the tracker and the tracker will show you when and what to bet?

Or do you mean you wish to copy the previous spins from any session from Wiesbaden and paste them into the tracker and see the results?

In either case, the trackers I code will do both.

If it is something else, then please let me know.

Thanks

Nick
   
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 01, 04:30 PM 2012
Quote from: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 04:21 PM 2012
"If you are going to do a tracker,could you do so that I can test any session from Wiesbaden
individually.Hope you do.
"

Does this mean you wish to input each number as it is spun by a live dealer or airball into the tracker and the tracker will show you when and what to bet?

Or do you mean you wish to copy the previous spins from any session from Wiesbaden and paste them into the tracker and see the results?-----this mate only,so i don't have to do it manually....no stop loss for individuall sessions...and restart from 1 as instructed in excel/on top/

In either case, the trackers I code will do both.

If it is something else, then please let me know.

Thanks

Nick

Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 06:21 PM 2012
 When we write code we need to be precise so please verify the following or advise if correct or not:


Trigger:  The trigger is 12 Unique Splits.  We track the spins until we find 12 Unique Splits and then we can start to Bet.  Is this correct?


Bet Selection:


1st Bet:

a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?


2nd Bet:  If 1st Bet WON:
             a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
             b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
             c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?


2nd Bet:  If 1st Bet LOST:
             a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
             b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
             c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?


Once we get the Trigger and Bet Selection, then we can easily write the the rest of it.


Thanks


Nick



Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 12:03 AM 2012
Quote from: Nickmsi on Sep 01, 06:21 PM 2012
When we write code we need to be precise so please verify the following or advise if correct or not:


Trigger:  The trigger is 12 Unique Splits.  We track the spins until we find 12 Unique Splits and then we can start to Bet.  Is this correct?


Bet Selection:


1st Bet:

a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?--- bet both...last and penultimate


2nd Bet:  If 1st Bet WON:--whichever win down 2 next bet.
             a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
             b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
             c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?


2nd Bet:  If 1st Bet LOST:---rise for 1
             a.  Bet the Last 12 Unique Splits? Or
             b.  Bet the Last 6 Unique Splits Or
             c.  Bet the Penultimate 6 Unique Splits?--


Once we get the Trigger and Bet Selection, then we can easily write the the rest of it.


Thanks---restart from 1 chip whenever 2 bets in plus.....level on due bets-------no stop-loss


Nick
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:29 AM 2012
Hi Flat,

i fully understand the split selection part because i'm typing it down in your excel.

But the reset to 1 after due bet levels ???

If i look to your excel and look under your last bets, you wrote
"here we restart from 1"

the only trigger that i see is when the units you won get equal for both split sets then you restart
your bet and due level to 1.

Is this correct?
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 04:10 AM 2012
Flat,

I checked your excel sheet and found my answer.
The answer is, its not possible to reset to 1 if the due bet levels.
Because you made a small math mistake  :D

At the beginning where you start to bet with the last splits bets you see this
        2+
1-             1+
        4+    3+   => How much is 1+4  ??  ;D
        2+    5+
1-

The penultimate bets are completely correct.
So at the end where you say "here we restart from 1"
the due levels are not equal but 23 vs 21.
and they will never become equal, because you go up 1 on a loss and -2 on a win.

But its not a big deal  ;) because i already made an excel sheet from my last 9 splits sheet.
With reset to 1 after new high for each split set bet.

And your profit is a whopping +2322 units
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: unre4lbg on Sep 02, 06:11 AM 2012
Can someone give some more clear explanation to the rules  :'( :'(
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: xxlakis on Sep 02, 06:14 AM 2012
So we are betting both 6 last and 6 penultimate splits with separate progressions +1/-2 if i get it right?
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 06:15 AM 2012
easy,

bet the last 6 unique splits and the 6 unique before (so 12 unique splits)

you bet these in seperate columns with own progression
+1 on a loss and -2 on a win.

if one them reaches a new high balance reset the prog to 1 also.

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 06:43 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:29 AM 2012
Hi Flat,

i fully understand the split selection part because i'm typing it down in your excel.

But the reset to 1 after due bet levels ???

If i look to your excel and look under your last bets, you wrote
"here we restart from 1"

the only trigger that i see is when the units you won get equal for both split sets then you restart
your bet and due level to 1.

Is this correct?


Correct......when on both bets in plus,next bet starts from 1....same when both bets levelled.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 06:52 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 04:10 AM 2012
Flat,

I checked your excel sheet and found my answer.
The answer is, its not possible to reset to 1 if the due bet levels.
Because you made a small math mistake  :D

At the beginning where you start to bet with the last splits bets you see this
        2+
1-             1+
        4+    3+   => How much is 1+4  ??  ;D
        2+    5+
1-

The penultimate bets are completely correct.
So at the end where you say "here we restart from 1"
the due levels are not equal but 23 vs 21.
and they will never become equal, because you go up 1 on a loss and -2 on a win.

But its not a big deal  ;) because i already made an excel sheet from my last 9 splits sheet.
With reset to 1 after new high for each split set bet.

And your profit is a whopping +2322 units


--Typo.....but you will find it levels sometimes,or maybe not...its not important,but is whenever 2 bets in plus restart from 1
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 06:59 AM 2012
with both in plus do you mean that they both have to reach a new high at the same time ?

or just as long they are in plus (even after a loss) you stay at 1 and when it goes under 0 it starts progression ?

just have to be sure to get the formula right
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 07:09 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 06:59 AM 2012
with both in plus do you mean that they both have to reach a new high at the same time ?-YES

or just as long they are in plus (even after a loss) you stay at 1 and when it goes under 0 it starts progression ?

just have to be sure to get the formula right


For instance one side is 10 or so spins up,then other side in couple of spins come from minus to any
plus,now they both in plus one on 3 due to bet other to 5 due to bet....RESTART FROM 1......
----Even though didn't show like that in excel/was doing in continuation 1+ 2-/but it how it should be done,restart from 1 when both bets in plus.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 07:29 AM 2012
Stepk,
It can come to situations where both bets are leveled/and same time in plus/just checked up one session.......


7          1
5          2
6          3............both bets lost
4          4


but as said it isn't so much important but it is sign that both bets are in plus at this even level,
nevertheless they both on 4....thisway you breaking one side going to far from each other.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 08:50 AM 2012
so it doesnt matter that you lose many units with this ?
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 10:09 AM 2012
Flat

i think i found it in the excel for the due leveling part.

here's your tracker.

if somethings wrong just let me know.

In column A are now the spins from your excel in your first post.

Just delete them al and paste your spins in it.

In the first row you see your profit, and largest drawdown for both split sets.

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 11:32 AM 2012
very nice...462 units...must tell me how to delete it,step by step...then how to paste it...usually I click
on DATA then FROM THE TEXT,then go to my documents click ON SESSION,then on small window,next,next,finish....and numbers come in the tracker.....Should I do like that also.
As am not very crafty doing these things.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: ludo8400 on Sep 02, 11:33 AM 2012
@Stepkevh (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=3928)I did test on Casino Hoyensyburg 28082012 t22
link:://permanenzen.westspiel.de/Overview.aspx?casino=13 (link:://permanenzen.westspiel.de/Overview.aspx?casino=13)
Numbers in textfile
Results without ZERO ( I cut them)
    LOST -366   

id  : -564   

for penultimate : -1164


Was I correct?


Still nice work you were doing.
ludo8400





Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:00 PM 2012
Flat,

Just click and hold the first spin number, then drag the mouse al the way down to the last number and press "delete".
Then you go to your document where the spins are; they have to be all under eachother in 1 line and max 500 numbers; select all numbers; right click on them and click "copy".
Then go to the excel sheet and click on the cell where the first spin needs to come; then right click and select "paste".
And it should be okay then.

Btw; is it possible to check if i did the reset to 1 thing good ?

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:02 PM 2012
Ludo,

I inserted your spin file in my tracker i posted and the results were

total profit                                      +684
largest drawdown on last splits     -1044
largest drawdown on penultimate -1416

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: bossdarling on Sep 02, 12:34 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:00 PM 2012

by the way; is it possible to check if i did the reset to 1 thing good ?

Stephan

Great job on the excel, Stephan. Thanks for sharing.

You have a separate reset to 1, each for the last and penultimate. If I'm not mistaken, F_LAT said if the sum of both resulting plus, then both reset to 1.

(Quote: "For instance one side is 10 or so spins up,then other side in couple of spins come from minus to any plus,now they both in plus one on 3 due to bet other to 5 due to bet....RESTART FROM 1......")

Which one do you mean, F_LAT? Separate reset or the sum of both?

Cheers,
-bd
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 12:50 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 12:00 PM 2012
Flat,

Just click and hold the first spin number, then drag the mouse al the way down to the last number and press "delete".
Then you go to your document where the spins are; they have to be all under eachother in 1 line and max 500 numbers; select all numbers; right click on them and click "copy".
Then go to the excel sheet and click on the cell where the first spin needs to come; then right click and select "paste".
And it should be okay then.

by the way; is it possible to check if i did the reset to 1 thing good ?

Stephan


Did as instructed...but it just doesn't listen to me.I get the numbers in excel/tracker,but then it shows me all kind of signs I don't understand..like Chinese lingua...lol
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 12:53 PM 2012
Quote from: bossdarling on Sep 02, 12:34 PM 2012
Great job on the excel, Stephan. Thanks for sharing.

You have a separate reset to 1, each for the last and penultimate. If I'm not mistaken, F_LAT said if the sum of both resulting plus, then both reset to 1.correct

(Quote: "For instance one side is 10 or so spins up,then other side in couple of spins come from minus to any plus,now they both in plus one on 3 due to bet other to 5 due to bet....RESTART FROM 1......")

Which one do you mean, F_LAT? Separate reset or the sum of both?----both

in excel didn't do thatway,just continuing betting.

Cheers,
-bd
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 01:01 PM 2012
@ BD,

the sheet resets on both in +.

@ Flat,

can you attach the spin file in a post, i wil take a look and give you further instructions :-)

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 01:18 PM 2012
Here Stepk.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 01:45 PM 2012
the first 500 numbers give +138 profit; ld on last splits -228 and on penultimate -378

or do you want to test all 18000 numbers in 1 sheet ?

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 01:54 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 01:45 PM 2012
the first 500 numbers give +138 profit; ld on last splits -228 and on penultimate -378

or do you want to test all 18000 numbers in 1 sheet ?--yes

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 02:28 PM 2012
Then you have to think about another progression or i have to change something on the resetting because if i import all the spins it goes further then the 50 step progression.

Will have a closer look at it and post results ;-)

Stephan
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 02:35 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 02, 02:28 PM 2012
Then you have to think about another progression or i have to change something on the resetting because if i import all the spins it goes further then the 50 step progression.

Will have a closer look at it and post results ;-)

Stephan


--Never mind 50 step...that's why I wana see on these 18000 spins...usually  I test on 300-400
spins.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 03, 12:53 AM 2012
So the sheet is okay like it is for max 500 spins ?

No changings ?
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: MuppetMan on Sep 03, 03:10 PM 2012
I always struggle keeping up with Flat brilliance on his posts.  :thumbsup:

Would you play this live in a casino Flat? This would take me so long to learn off by heart.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 03, 03:18 PM 2012
Quote from: MuppetMan on Sep 03, 03:10 PM 2012
I always struggle keeping up with Flat brilliance on his posts.  :thumbsup:

Would you play this live in a casino Flat? This would take me so long to learn off by heart.  :-[


--Without spreadsheet and large BR you not advised to play this.
--Am only playing airball these days.
Title: Re: UNCLES IN ACTION AGAIN-----ONE IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER
Post by: dino246 on Sep 03, 03:32 PM 2012
Do you play Airball B+M or Online or both ?
Cheers.
Dino.