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STANDARD DEVIATION BEATING EUROPEAN ROULETTE WHEELS???

Started by cubanopro, Sep 13, 03:14 PM 2010

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cubanopro

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 15, 04:48 PM 2010
--These are all my own past played spins.
RNG-???NEVER-EVER,ONLY LIVE LAND CASINOS.

Great! By any chance may we see those results??
Cubano

cubanopro

Quote from: Blood Angel on Sep 15, 04:53 PM 2010
Hi cubanopro

This guy was very friendly and was offering his coding skills for free.
Why not leave a post or a message and ask for his help  to code this?

link:://rouletteforum.cc/coding-for-roulette/offering-my-coding-services-for-free/msg10578/#msg10578

Thanks man! I will certainly look into it!
Cubano

Bayes

Quote from: cubanopro on Sep 15, 04:33 PM 2010
I hope you got my point! I also wanted to mention that if you decide to continue testing my system I don't encourage using RNG because that is pure randomness and it is not backed by the law of STANDARD DEVIATION.

Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. Any normally distributed set of numbers (the "bell curve") has standard deviation, including RNG. Don't just believe me, you can find that out for yourself.

"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

cubanopro

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 15, 04:54 PM 2010
I'm currently playing it with Dozens and Columns at the same time

If a Zero hits, while NOT betting, should I start my 5 count over again ?

Example 1210 Ignore those numbers and start over

Is this correct ?

What difference does it make that a 0 hits or not? In the 68% chance of winning... it is expected that sometimes a 0 hits.. It is not a correct way of thinking. Always remember that before changing a system and adding new rules, it has to be backed by something. In this case why would you restart your count if a 0 comes in play??
Cubano

Twisteruk

Quote from: cubanopro on Sep 15, 05:09 PM 2010
What difference does it make that a 0 hits or not? In the 68% chance of winning... it is expected that sometimes a 0 hits.. It is not a correct way of thinking. Always remember that before changing a system and adding new rules, it has to be backed by something. In this case why would you restart your count if a 0 comes in play??


Sorry, you misunderstand me

I wasnt saying this is what we should do

I was seeking clarification as to what we should do, thats all.

Thank you for your time. Much appreciated  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

GLC

I think I played this section right.

Correct me if I did anything wrong.

No.   Doz   Bet    W/L   Total
1.     1
2.     2
3.     1   1   L   -1
4.     2   2   L   -3
5.     1   3   L   -6

6.     3
7.     3
8.     3
9.     3
10.   1   NB

11.    1
12.    1
13.    3
14.    1   2   L   -8
15.    2   4   W   0   Re-set

16.    2
17.    2
18.    3
19.    1   1   W   +2      Re-set
20.    1

21.    3
22.    2
23.    2   1   L   -1
24.    1   2   W   +3   Re-set
25.    1

26.    2
27.    2
28.    3
29.    2   1   L   -1
30.    0   2   L   -3

31.    3
32.    1
33.    1   3   L   -6
34.    2   2   W   -2
35.    2

36.    1
37.    2
38.    2   1   L   -3
39.    3   2   W   +1   Re-set
40.    2

41.    0
42.    3
43.    3
44.    3
45.    1   NB

46.    1
47.    2
48.    1   1   L   -1
49.    2   2   L   -3
50.    3   3   W   +3

51.    2
52.    3
53.    1   1   W   +2
54.    3
55.    2

56.    2
57.    1
58.    1   1   L   -1
59.    1   2   L   -3
60.    2   3   L   -6

61.    1
62.    1
63.    3
64.    2   2   W   -2
65.    1

66.    3
67.    3
68.    1
69.    1   2   L   -4
70.    3   4   L   -8

71.    3
72.    1
73.    2   6   W   +4
74.    3
75.    2

Okay, this is about 2 sessions for Cubanopro.
I won 15 units.
Largest bet was 6 units.
Farthest in the hole was -8 units.

Cubanopro, any corrections?

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

cubanopro

Quote from: Bayes on Sep 15, 05:08 PM 2010
Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. Any normally distributed set of numbers (the "bell curve") has standard deviation, including RNG. Don't just believe me, you can find that out for yourself.

I'm sorry because I want to believe you I do... It's just that I prefer being away from RNG... I always have the feeling that someone is arranging the results so that we loose. In theory it's true that ''any normally distributed set of numbers have a standard deviation'' in fact everything has an SD it doesn't limit only to numbers. But I just don't like playing online I guess

Good post Bayes!
Cubano

Hermes

RNGs have no deviation at all, they are artificial. Deviation happens only at natural cycles. Lately, I don't trust even live online because of the changing screens. If there will be always the same screen it would be different. They play Hollywood pictures with the gamblers. Greed has no boundary. Even real casinos which use metal pockets are suspicious for magnet in play. In LV I didn't see any metal pockets but the old style deep wooden pockets roulette wheels. But in Canada are all metal and flat.
Hermes

cubanopro

 
Quote from: GLC on Sep 15, 05:17 PM 2010
I think I played this section right.

Correct me if I did anything wrong.

No.   Doz   Bet    W/L   Total
1.     1
2.     2
3.     1   1   L   -1
4.     2   2   L   -3
5.     1   3   L   -6

6.     3
7.     3
8.     3
9.     3
10.   1   NB
...

Okay, this is about 2 sessions for Cubanopro.
I won 15 units.
Largest bet was 6 units.
Farthest in the hole was -8 units.

Cubanopro, any corrections?
George

Hi GLC! Ok first of all these 75 spins represents almost 3 sessions for me.. I played it like I do and at the end I have -1 unit with a drawdown of -9... Not too great! You I don't know how but you say you have +15...  I found a mistake. On the 15th spin you got a win when in reality you're supposed to get a loss and be at -12. I also dont understand your way of betting... 1,2,3..then I thought it was 2,3,4..clearly I was wrong..

Man I'm all confused...I think I have been talking too much lately on roulette forums. I think I'm going to go play a bit right now just to cool off lol.. Wish me luck!  
Cubano

GLC

Sorry,  Cubanopro,

I had made a mistake on spin #15, the dozen was actually a 2 instead of a 3 making it a winner.

Also, my betting progression was 1-2-3, if lose 2-4-6, if lose 3-6-9, if lose 4-8-12, etc...

If a bet progression wins on a series of spins, almost any bet progression will win.  More aggressive ones will win more but also go in the hole more.

I was really wanting to make sure I was playing the bet selection correctly and handling the 5 spin cycles the way you wrote.

I was wondering when you were going to have to take a break from answering all the questions.

No hurry.  Most of us have been  testing and tweaking these systems for a while.  We're not going anywhere.

When you get a chance is soon enough.

Good luck on your session.

George.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Fast Bucks

Quote from: Hermes on Sep 15, 05:44 PM 2010
RNGs have no deviation at all, they are artificial...
Hermes

That statement is factually incorrect. Deviation is deviation regardless of the device
producing it, as long as the device conforms to probability models, which RNG's do
notoriously well.

keel44

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cubanopro

Quote from: GLC on Sep 15, 07:04 PM 2010
I was wondering when you were going to have to take a break from answering all the questions.

No hurry.  Most of us have been  testing and tweaking these systems for a while.  We're not going anywhere.

When you get a chance is soon enough.

Good luck on your session.

George.

Hey don't worry about me George...I'm fine. I guess I just needed some time off the forums lol. So how are we on the system? Are there people that have tried it for some while now? Tonight was another positive night for me but then again this means absolutely nothing because there are not enough spins...

Take care guys!
Cubano

GLC

Not to change the direction of this thread, but if this works on the dozens, it should work on the dbl streets also.  10 spin cycles.  Once 4 have shown, bet the other 2 for up to 10 spins.  Sometimes I prefer dbl streets or sgl streets to dozens.

It can give you a little more wiggle room with the bet progression.

G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Twisteruk

Im gonna test today with Dozens and Columns to see if there is much difference.


Obviously is will be a small sample, not 100k spins etc


I will use the Original Staking Plan, and post Results for each seperately


Will posts Results later tonight  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

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