i have started a kimo thread before but never got into it
i never like to get into great detail with a roulette system
i believe they should be as simple as possible
this attached pinwheel...i notice when a section hits if you bet that section you often get a win...light to no progression
assuming this is for euro, he has no zeros
if 7 hit last, next spin bet section 1 so on and so forth
just got home from a thousand mile round trip drive....and i just cant get away from roulette
i did a very short test and had many hits...so if its a long term winner or not i do not know....just an idea for now
try to test it with the 1-2-3 stuff from the other thread.
cant wait for your result.
i have another set of 1140 spins here and i got 7 distributed 1-2-3.
the best BR for this is 24x3=72u i think and flat bet.
:thumbsup:
oops! sorry u may need a minor progression
Quote from: marvin on Nov 28, 02:03 AM 2015
try to test it with the 1-2-3 stuff from the other thread.
cant wait for your result.
i have another set of 1140 spins here and i got 7 distributed 1-2-3.
the best BR for this is 24x3=72u i think and flat bet.
:thumbsup:
Thats better then the 1 in 100 im seeing
Nice. I will test as soon as i can
Image is free to use of found on search engine
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He is upset this is here which leads me to believe it works
Kimo apologized. This is allowed here.
Thanks kimo for being honest
need euro wheel testers
bet last section hit
results?
come on guys hundreds of members and guests here...stop staying silent
Some of u guests shud register and chime in.....
No, no, no......they wait until its handed to them and then split the scene.
Ken
:twisted: :ooh: :xd: :xd:
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 28, 04:09 PM 2015
need euro wheel testers
bet last section hit
results?
come on guys hundreds of members and guests here...stop staying silent
Hi RG!!!
Thanks for your contribution
Results from 5 sets of spins-Live Dealer (Vistabet)-4 different tables-Total 158 spins (H=Hit M=Miss):
Set 1 Set 2 Set 3 Set 4 Set 5
H M H M H M H M H M
Section 1 6 3 1 6 2 6 5 12 2 10
Section 2 5 4 2 6 1 7 3 10 5 11
Section 3 1 3 2 4 3 4 3 12 6 10
EDIT - EDIT - EDIT
Longest Hit Streak (Consecutive Spins): 3 (4 times)
Longest Miss Streak (Consecutive Spins): 12 (once), 8 (once), 7 (once), 6 (twice), 5 (4 times), 4 (once), 3 (twice)
Longest Hit Streak (Same Section Numbers): 3 (4 times)
Longest Miss Streak (Same Section Numbers): 8 (once), 7 (once), 5 (3 times)
Quote from: roufor69 on Nov 29, 04:38 AM 2015
Hi RG!!!
Thanks for your contribution
Results from 5 sets of spins-Live Dealer (Vistabet)-4 different tables-Total 158 spins (H=Hit M=Miss):
Set 1 Set 2 Set 3 Set 4 Set 5
H M H M H M H M H M
Section 1 6 3 1 6 2 6 5 12 2 10
Section 2 5 4 2 6 1 7 3 10 5 11
Section 3 1 3 2 4 3 4 3 12 6 10
EDIT - EDIT - EDIT
Longest Hit Streak (Consecutive Spins): 3 (4 times)
Longest Miss Streak (Consecutive Spins): 12 (once), 8 (once), 7 (once), 6 (twice), 5 (4 times), 4 (once), 3 (twice)
Longest Hit Streak (Same Section Numbers): 3 (4 times)
Longest Miss Streak (Same Section Numbers): 8 (once), 7 (once), 5 (3 times)
im not sure exactly how pinwheel is supposed to be played but were you betting last section hit?
thanks
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 29, 10:49 AM 2015
im not sure exactly how pinwheel is supposed to be played but were you betting last section hit?
thanks
Set 4: 25,19,5,26,15,12,6,18,32,24,34,18,13,12,17,16,5,30,33,8,33,21,9,35,3,32,25,8,24,21,24,4,29,27,34,7,17,21,16,6,7,30,22,2,34,26
M, M, M, M, M,M, M, M, M, M, M, M, H, M, M, M,M, M, H, H, M, M, M,M, M, H, H, M, H, H, M, M, M, M, M, M, H, M, M,H,M, M, M, H, M
Well that doesnt look good
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 29, 01:46 PM 2015
Well that doesnt look good
Yes, BUT if we'd played AGAINST, max 3 misses would have been max 3 losses, so with 4 bets we'd have won EVERY spin!!!
You mean whatever section hit last bet the other 24 numbers?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 29, 02:54 PM 2015
You mean whatever section hit last bet the other 24 numbers?
EXACTLY
just took a look
yep it works
might have to play this along with 123
i can get 34 bets down on airball no problem
I removed the image before I saw Kimo allowed it. You can post it again.
here
here is how i *think* kimo intends pinwheel to be played
now i can be wrong, this is just speculation
record say the past 20 spins....whichever pinwheel section has least hits bet that section for up to a certain number of spins or on a win, then restart
Kimo Li says he makes 1200 units every 12 spins. He's also mum on how.
100 units per spin on average seems a bit far fetched.
I have the explanation from kimo somewhere. I will search it...he plays only 12 Numbers with progression. Thats why he can reach 1200 within 12 spins. He also has a high base Unit.
Im curious as to how its meant to be played
I think its take the section that has hit least and bet that. But like i said i could be erong
He shows how to Play in his own forum.
I copied it and will Post it later. The Betting Strategy is not the secret he told. Its the progression what makes this a Winner.
Ok looking forard to it
Does he sell a product or is it just a private forum?
I found this with google...
Not a member of his forum.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Nov 30, 07:02 AM 2015
He shows how to Play in his own forum.
I copied it and will Post it later. The Betting Strategy is not the secret he told. Its the progression what makes this a Winner.
It will be very interesting to see RFMAXX.
this can be found free with google search: link:://9066409.weebly.talkiforum.com/20120301/learning-the-kimo-li-way-1329736/page6/ (link:://9066409.weebly.talkiforum.com/20120301/learning-the-kimo-li-way-1329736/page6/)
A set of six numbers of 36 numbers, excluding zeros, should come in, based on the laws of averages, once every six spins. So, the probability of a set of six numbers should come in within six spins.
We all know that it is highly unlikely that six sets of six numbers will behave in accordance to the law of averages on only six spins. So, how does one extract the essence of probability? Using the Global Star principles and implementing the Pinwheel Strategy (stars 14, 25, 36), the tracking looks like this.
Sets of 3 spins â€" why because twelve numbers sets should come in at least once every three spins; but it don’t, it looks more like the following:
3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36
10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated.
18 00 16 â€" 1 0 1 Hit
0 33 13 â€" 0 1 1 Hit
0 36 18 â€" 1 0 1 Hit
23 29 03 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
28 36 10 â€" 2 1 0 Miss, switch to Pinwheel 14 and repeat, because 14 is on a run.
07 29 0 - 1 0 1 Hit
16 19 16 â€" 3 0 0 Hit
20 24 31 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
07 31 22 â€" 0 2 1 Miss, switch to Pinwheel 25 and repeat. Could have played 36 and still would have won.
10 27 23 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
14 08 09 - 0 2 1 Hit
31 23 35 â€" 1 1 1 Hit and stopped. Reached money target. $1,400.00
Recap:
Play 3 spin sets. Once number hits, stop and wait for next three spins. Spin one hits, wait two spins to play again. Spin one misses and spin two hits, wait one spin and play again. Spins one and two misses and spin three hits. Start next three spins.
Miss your three sets, switch to a running trend. Money management is a key factor behind this strategy. That is a different story.
The Money Management wasnt explained. According to Kimo, this makes it a winning strategy.
Regards, max
i guess thats $10-$25u chips thats why he reaches that 1400ish in 12 spins.
So he is winning $1200 per 12 spins, not 1200 units? Mixing up units and $ is common.
Quick test using 224 spins from SmartLive Low Limit Auto-Roulette.
Tested this way:
group 1 hit, bet group 1
group 2 hit, bet group 2
group 3 hit, bet group 3
0 hit, no bet
Used a 15 steps progression, reseting on a new high.
Session ended +1704 in 224 spins using 1$ unit.
Highest DD = 1608
Highest Step: 12 (70/number)
Test yourself, Rx code attached... 8)
Thanks will read later
Eeek 1600+ drawdown, that is nasty.
but that is not the way kimo described, right?
Right, i tested as per post #1
Has anyone here made a purchase from kimo li website? I never see any testimonials.....just curious. I was looking at the pinwheel on his site
Is it actual strategies for sale?
Hi, interesting Read, i have been a follower of Kimos work for years, and he always said Pinwheel is the most effective.
I have personally bought spreadsheets from his website. They are Amazing. Seriously opens up your brain to notice patterns and see the whole table in a different Light.
Once i have got my head around this pinwheel post i am going to purchase the Pinwheel Spreadsheet.
Trying yo get my head around his explanation and his results.
What does 121
111
021
012
Etc.... Mean. Surely its not the groups as there are so many 0 in it????
I understand spinning in sets of 3 and if you win on first spin of first set, must wait til start of next 3 spins.
But trting to understand the sequence of which group to bet on????
Quote from: jbudd32 on Dec 01, 01:26 AM 2015
Hi, interesting Read, i have been a follower of Kimos work for years, and he always said Pinwheel is the most effective.
I have personally bought spreadsheets from his website. They are Amazing. Seriously opens up your brain to notice patterns and see the whole table in a different Light.
Once i have got my head around this pinwheel post i am going to purchase the Pinwheel Spreadsheet.
I considered buying the pinwheel spreadsheet but im seeking more information on how his spreadsheets work and how we learn the different methods
i bought 3 sheets incl. the pinwheel...but you will not get any information how to play.
its just an information what happened on the wheel and you have to decide what to do next.
the free tracker is all you need...link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15536.0;attach=18031 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15536.0;attach=18031)
maybe normy or someone can extend it to show the order each pinwheel hits.
so hit number 26 = pw 36. hits first.
hit number 3 = pw 25. hits second.
hit number 10 =pw 36. hits third.
max
american pinwheel tracker:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15536.0;attach=18032 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15536.0;attach=18032)
Thanks max. The question remains. Does kimo say how to play?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 10:02 AM 2015
Thanks max. The question remains. Does kimo say how to play?
no. :(
When i bought some spreadsheets, i asked for a small insight into the way i can use the data to be effective...
He Emailed me and told me to look out for patterns within the spreadsheet... he said.. for example... if i know red will come next its a question of how much money i wanted tro make!!! Exploit the patterns that you see.
Example: See Photo Attatched.... Can you see Patterns in this?? ... I certainly can... And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Is there a password for the protected xl spreadsheet?
Well Kimo gives us the tools... We need to work out a suitable play.
We can't have everything handed to us on a plate.
Anyone thinking of Buying a Spreadsheet from Kimo.... Do It.
Best investment i have made.
Had a great session last night. Sussed out an amazing Strategy.
Ill buy american pinwheel i think
Good move.... will be doing same for european wheel...
Lets post results and see if we can smash it.
Try betting decision before last flat-bet on this.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 08, 01:20 AM 2015
Try betting decision before last flat-bet on this.
What do you mean, Proof?
If one of 3 tables is hit, to bet the rest of numbers?
Thanks
What do you mean, Proof?-NextYear
Bet the second newest group of 12 numbers:
...11,8 (group 2, group 1)-newest hit
Bet group 2: 1,3,11,15,17,18,21,23,24,27,28,31 once.
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Win-Target per session: +48/Stop Loss per session: -72 units
If you say so... will give it a try.
Thanks
Merry xmas
So is anyone playing Pinwheel?
I have the spreadsheet now.
Just looking to share ideas
Hi Happy New Year to everyone,
Please find following my take on Kimo's Pinwheel. The session was played this morning at Dublinbet's Airball wheel. Ended up +120 units playing (or thereabouts, see note at bottom). Nasty period half way through session, guess that's why it is important to have a 'goal' and a rigid stoploss before you start playing. Could have exited way before the end with a handsome profit. For progression I used 'Lanky's' 6 point divisor for single dozens.
Pinwheel 14(1) 25(2) 36(3)
NB = No Bet
133
323 W NB NB
133 L W NB
213 L L W
312 - NB -
232 - NB -
230 W NB NB
321 - NB -
222 - NB -
211 W NB NB
231 L L W
221 - NB -
122 L W NB
321 L W NB
122 - NB -
323 L W NB
232 L W NB
313 L L L
131 L W NB
322 L L L
323 L W NB
113 L L W
322 L L L
222 W NB NB
233 W NB NB
222 L L L
313 L L L
222 L L L
113 L L L
231 L L W
131 - NB -
331 L L W
112 L L L
133 W NB NB
312 W NB NB
223 - NB -
312 L L W
121 - NB -
133 W NB NB
311 W NB NB
112 W NB NB
+ 120 units (0.25 base unit)
*** The final total may have been slightly less or slightly more. A word of warning to anyone who might wish to play this automated system at Dublinbet, when I first started the session there was nobody playing at the table however a little later somebody stated to play and I could see that they were placing bets on a lot of numbers. Initially when I was playing alone there was plenty of time to lay the bets and increase them when necessary. However once this guy started playing I found it harder and harder to lay my bets in time, ie the time between spins became shorter and shorter! Make of that what you will just warning you.
Thanks for sharing, Kevin.
What were you actually doing?
Wait 3 spins then play the dominant sector until you get a hit (max 3 spins). Follow the above and you should get the idea. Everything is detailed above W, L and NB (no bet) for each spin of each set.
Playing a game now, to be honest though I'm sure this isn't the way he plays. Furthermore I don't think that there is anything special about these numbered groups, results are going to be similar with any set of 12 numbers. As others have said it is the progression used that can make any difference. Time to move on me thinks.