Wait for a dozen or column to hit 4 times in a row bet once for it to break its run. Progression
1-1 = +1
4-4. = +2
15-15 = +5
LOSS (-40)
EXAMPLE....
12
16
33*
34*
26*
34* < bet 1-1 units on dozen A+B
36 LOSS -2
31
1
20
4
9,*
18*
27*
33* < Bet 4-4 on column A+B
7. Win +4
Iv had very good results so far on testing. LLL (-40u) is rare.
(Test results on the thread "good results so far??) > link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19942.0
Thanks
**Track both dozens and columns at same time... Dont just play one or the other.
**after a bet only retract back from the result number we bet.. To start looking for new trigger.
** if we have both dozen and column hit 4 in a row at exactly same time we choose the one that has hit the most first by tracking back.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 25, 01:49 AM 2018
Wait for a dozen or column to hit 4 times in a row bet once for it to break its run.
Basic stuff... I can guarantee it loses . Sorry. But better i say it right ? :thumbsup:
No worries denzie. Better now im here at the forum instead of wasting lots of time.. And maybe money.
Cool. Glad to hear you accept the advice.
(Its a method that can work a long time though if your lucky but in the end..........rip )
(//)
Quote from: denzie on Jan 25, 03:23 AM 2018
Cool. Glad to hear you accept the advice.
(Its a method that can work a long time though if your lucky but in the end..........rip )
thanks for your advices.
so if it is like that, can we play opposite? for example wait for 4 times a dozen to hit and then bet again once the same one dozen only to hit 5th time?
regards,
SugTips
I think if you play for 5 wins a session it works great, as im not 100% on the stats but to see the dozen columns go to 5 hits in a row all at once three times in a row could be like once every 500 spins.
I think its good if dont stay at wheel for hours and hours. Just go +5 wins a session. And as the progression is 1,4,15 (+1,+2,+5) you win average +13units every 5 wins.
4 winning sessions of say +13u = +52u
1 losing run is -40u.
So 4/5 winning sessions to every 1 loss. You still be ahead in profit.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 25, 08:02 AM 2018to see the dozen columns go to 5 hits in a row all at once three times in a row could be like once every 500 spins.
I think its good if dont stay at wheel for hours and hours. Just go +5 wins a session
thanks I will test it tonight at my bmc
Quote from: sugtips on Jan 25, 09:47 AM 2018
thanks I will test it tonight at my bmc
I wouldnt do it....but if you do...good luck
1-1. +1
4-4. +2
15-15 +5. Total. 40units
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LLWWWW.
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I realise some of these tests end in a L but had no more spins to see if got a W after.
But good idea of how it runs.
All the data i have so far is.
Flat betting!!
Wins 105 x +1 = +105
Loss 59x -2 = -59
Profit/loss = +46u
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It be good if someone could get a test on over 10,000+ spins too see how this holds up.
Maybe a type of progression would make this better.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 28, 06:01 AM 2018
All the data i have so far is.
Flat betting!!
Wins 105 x +1 = +105
Loss 59x -2 = -59
Profit/loss = +46u
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It be good if someone could get a test on over 10,000+ spins too see how this holds up.
Maybe a type of progression would make this better.
10k spins ? Sure it could hold up. 100k ? Maybe if your lucky. 1mil.... No way.
Sorry :thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Jan 28, 06:09 AM 2018
10k spins ? Sure it could hold up. 100k ? Maybe if your lucky. 1mil.... No way.
Sorry :thumbsup:
Not sure if ill ever sit at a wheel for 1 mill spins.
100 spin sessions test (each day) x 100 days will give a good picture of how a typical day/session at the
wheel could pan out.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 28, 06:01 AM 2018
All the data i have so far is.
Flat betting!!
Wins 105 x +1 = +105
Loss 59x -2 = -59
Profit/loss = +46u
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What a numpty i am!!! :lol:
Wins 105 x +1 = +105
Loss 59x -2 = -118
Flat Betting = -13
Still i think a LLL of 1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (-26) is quite rare.
Thanks
Quote from: denzie on Jan 28, 06:09 AM 2018
10k spins ? Sure it could hold up. 100k ? Maybe if your lucky. 1mil.... No way.
Sorry :thumbsup:
Denzie a system doesnt have to hold up for 1 million spins. Heres the thing. And I make this same argument for PB. Guys like you worry about something failing thirty years down the road. If im still alive in 30 years. PB will have made me so much money it wouldnt matter.
Can you understand this?
Even if PB falls apart five years from now. I will have made over 200k from it by then. And I will show any doubting thomas's. So it will have served its purpose.
However if its business as usual 5 years from now. Which im extremely confident it will be. I will continue to use it.
Guys who sit around saying WHAT IF this what if that. Dont get very far in life.
I dont know how much money will have to be made before the doubters say. Hey maybe this game can be beaten by a mechanical system. At least in a mans lifetime. But we shall see.
Quote from: sentinel3 on Jan 28, 11:24 AM 2018
Denzie a system doesnt have to hold up for 1 million spins. Heres the thing. And I make this same argument for PB. Guys like you worry about something failing thirty years down the road. If im still alive in 30 years. PB will have made me so much money it wouldnt matter.
Can you understand this?
Even if PB falls apart five years from now. I will have made over 200k from it by then. And I will show any doubting thomas's. So it will have served its purpose.
However if its business as usual 5 years from now. Which im extremely confident it will be. I will continue to use it.
Guys who sit around saying WHAT IF this what if that. Dont get very far in life.
I dont know how much money will have to be made before the doubters say. Hey maybe this game can be beaten by a mechanical system. At least in a mans lifetime. But we shall see.
Here's the thing....if a system works over millions of spins....then we all win. Yup.
Now...if the system dont win then only a few will win. You understand this ?
Meaning some one can start playing and lose right away. But he might think...lets keep going coz the others doing great. And he will lose more and more. ( even if played in small games)
Some will win few months...raise the chips...And....Yup. etc.
So im 100% sure it loses. But i wont argue that its a Nice system. I just tell the people to be carefull. Thats it.
Even a stupid marty can win a lifetime for some. But most will lose. Once again...dont get me twisted...I wish you guys win. And win a lot :thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Jan 28, 11:42 AM 2018
But most will lose.
Most of the time there is no need to test at all. Just by looking you can tell it will lose.
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Jan 28, 12:23 PM 2018
Most of the time there is no need to test at all. Just by looking you can tell it will lose.
It took me losing a lot of money to learn that skill. :'(
Single-Dozen-System, Double-Dozen-System, ...
Can we expect a winning Triple-Dozen-strategy as well?
Quote from: winkel on Jan 28, 01:32 PM 2018
Single-Dozen-System, Double-Dozen-System, ...
Can we expect a winning Triple-Dozen-strategy as well?
Haha well maybe...
Wait until we see 5 dozens or columns hit the furthest back... Not hit the last 2 dozens 5 times.
Then bet for that repeat of any of the last 2 dozens to come 1-1,3-3,9-9
Got to see this to lose.
A
C
B
A
C * trigger
B
A
C
B
Need 71 units to play all three systems at once. I think its not a bad hit and run. But most likely just be a matter of time until hit the losses.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 25, 01:49 AM 2018
Wait for a dozen or column to hit 4 times in a row bet once for it to break its run. Progression
1-1 = +1
4-4. = +2
15-15 = +5
LOSS (-40)
EXAMPLE....
12
16
33*
34*
26*
34* < bet 1-1 units on dozen A+B
36 LOSS -2
31
1
20
4
9,*
18*
27*
33* < Bet 4-4 on column A+B
7. Win +4
Iv had very good results so far on testing. LLL (-40u) is rare.
(Test results on the thread "good results so far??) > link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19942.0
Thanks
12
16
33 +1
34 +2
26 +3
34 +4
36 +5
31 +6
1 +4
20 +5
4 +6
9 +7
18 +5
27 +6
33 +7
7 +5
Flat bet
Im just trying Double dozens with those spins.
The method cam be worked out I figured.
Based on 'movement and trapping'
Quote from: seykid31 on Oct 04, 01:41 AM 2018
12
16
33 +1
34 +2
26 +3
34 +4
36 +5
31 +6
1 +4
20 +5
4 +6
9 +7
18 +5
27 +6
33 +7
7 +5
Flat bet
Im just trying Double dozens with those spins.
The method can be worked out I figured.
Based on 'movement and trapping'
Certainly Flatbetting 1-1 each time - it *might* be OK.
Apolloo' s results W/L
LWWWW +2
WWWL +1
WWWW +4
LLWW -2
LWW +0
WWWLLWW +1
WWL +0
WWL +0
WLW +0
WWL +0
WWWLW +2
W +1
LWWW +1
WLWWLWW +1
WWWLW +2
LWWWWW +3
WWWWLL +0
WWWWW +5
LLWWWW +0
TOTAL = +21
flatbetting 1-1 each time
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Oct 04, 04:55 AM 2018
Certainly Flatbetting 1-1 each time - it *might* be OK.
Apolloo' s results W/L
LWWWW +2
WWWL +1
WWWW +4
LLWW -2
LWW +0
WWWLLWW +1
WWL +0
WWL +0
WLW +0
WWL +0
WWWLW +2
W +1
LWWW +1
WLWWLWW +1
WWWLW +2
LWWWWW +3
WWWWLL +0
WWWWW +5
LLWWWW +0
TOTAL = +21
flatbetting 1-1 each time
A.
You are playing these spins?
i have tested this long time ago on youroul . com ---- called the Sphinx system. (just search Sphinx) Results are not so good. See it yourself.
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