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Title: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 06, 02:30 PM 2023
hello

I am new here but long time guest and reading many threads. I posted a similar thread much more detailed in a german roulette forum and received very aggressive answers. it was very disappointing. I have nothing for sale and will not explain the details of the strategy, sorry for that.
I would like to give test results which I did manually with Wiesbaden Permanenzen.I also would appreciate if you can tell me how long should I test a strategy? it is a plein strategy without progression means always flat plein bet. it is a combination of 2 strategies which are actually complementing each other. so I test and play 2 plein strategies same time. results are no Tronc. means I could only play online casino live dealer roulette. just for info in my opinion live dealer and RNG cannot be compared. but I tested one year with RNG numbers with random.org and I took 12 months whereas 30 x 250 coups
were 1 month. I was just curious to see the outcome


here are the results of 66 months (5 1/2 years) test with Wiesbaden Permanenzen

716+ 423+ = 1139+      > 18 months  06/21 - 12/22

362+ 247+ = 609+       > 12 months  01/19 – 12/19

692+ 337+ = 1029+      > 12 months  01/18 – 12/18

383+ 544+ = 927+       > 12 months  01/17 – 12/17

393+ 107- = 286+       > 12 months  01/16 – 12/16

Win sessions       42
Losing sessions    24

Overall Profit 3990 units / 66 months = 60.45+ per month

1913 units loss / 24 = average loss per losing session 79.70

5903 units win /  42 = average profit per win session 140.54


any answer positive or negative is very much appreciated.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 17, 12:38 AM 2023
hello

no one has any opinion? positive or negative?
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: winkel on Jan 17, 05:08 AM 2023
Her is something you don´t know nothing about. Give me your opinion!

What do you expect?

1. special answer: Great! You found the holy grail.
2. special answer: Test and you will see
3. special answer; Go and play it with real money
4. I´m a loser. Pls tell me more I need to win a lot of money.
5. special answer: There is no way to win at roulette. You are bound to lose in the long run.
6. If you bet a lot you will lose a lot.

If you like, I have some more.
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: winkel on Jan 17, 05:09 AM 2023
Here is something you don´t know nothing about. Give me your opinion!

What do you expect?

1. special answer: Great! You found the holy grail.
2. special answer: Test and you will see
3. special answer; Go and play it with real money
4. I´m a loser. Pls tell me more I need to win a lot of money.
5. special answer: There is no way to win at roulette. You are bound to lose in the long run.
6. If you bet a lot you will lose a lot.

If you like, I have some more.
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 17, 06:46 AM 2023
Mr or Herr Winkel

sorry but I have to add one point especially for you

point 7. you are a loser (sorry to say that)
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: winkel on Jan 17, 07:09 AM 2023
Quote from: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 17, 06:46 AM 2023point 7. you are a loser (sorry to say that)

another fact in which you are completly wrong.

It is alway the same: Dumb people ask dumb questions and then say the replyer is dumb.
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 17, 08:46 AM 2023
I did not say you are dumb

I said you are a loser and there is a difference between dumb and a loser Herr Winkel

worst case would be dumb and a loser

Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: winkel on Jan 17, 10:41 AM 2023
Quote from: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 17, 08:46 AM 2023I said you are a loser
Which proofs that YOU are dumb.
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: Smoczoor on Jan 17, 07:57 PM 2023
Quoteno one has any opinion? positive or negative?

what should i say?

congratulations! im studying/playing roulette for 15 years and no success, so when i see that somebody can win im happy. I wish all the best!
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 18, 01:18 AM 2023
Quotewhat should i say?

congratulations! im studying/playing roulette for 15 years and no success, so when i see that somebody can win im happy. I wish all the best!

first of all thank you for the answer and the kind words  :thumbsup:

please understand that my question actually is if those results-numbers are good enough to start playing for real or to test more as those numbers are manual tests of 5.5 years

I am asking because I don't believe in roulette systems or strategies
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: Firefox on Jan 24, 09:03 PM 2023
What is the basis of your bet selection.

You don't have to explain it exactly but in round terms.

Is it based on previous results. If so going how far back? 10 spins 20 spins ? 1000 spins?

Is it based on what is happening on the wheel. Rotor speeds, spin parameters etc?

Or is it based on something else?
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: huskerdu on Jan 25, 05:45 PM 2023
Test it for another 5,5 years and come back here again in 2028 to tell us your results. In the same thread.
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 27, 08:06 AM 2023
QuoteTest it for another 5,5 years and come back here again in 2028 to tell us your results. In the same thread.

it looks like you did not read the subject line when I opened the thread. I asked for serious feedback.

I don't need 5.5  years for a test of 5.5 years. I am right now testing again and have 4 moths tested and will post the 6 months result soon as it will be 6 years of test
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Jan 27, 08:22 AM 2023
QuoteWhat is the basis of your bet selection.

You don't have to explain it exactly but in round terms.

Is it based on previous results. If so going how far back? 10 spins 20 spins ? 1000 spins?

Is it based on what is happening on the wheel. Rotor speeds, spin parameters etc?

Or is it based on something else?

@Firefox thank you very much for the interest and questions. I will try to answer as much as possible

yes it is based on previous results. I took the Wiesbaden permanenzen Archive for testing. each day is one new session. sometimes the table has about 150 spins and sometimes about 300 spins.

it is not based on wheel rotor speed or anything like this. I write down the numbers as they appear and after a given pattern I bet a single number.

I bet on 2 different patterns as they compliment each other. with about an average of daily played 30 coups for both patterns together for 5.5 years the result in my opinion is sensational even it is not a lot of profit units. I don't believe in roulette systems and strategies and therefore I am going on testing and I opened the thread to get serious feedback and opinions even I did not explain the strategy in full.as the result is without Tronc this strategy makes only sense to play in an OC with live dealer or in Las Vegas on a European wheel.
I hope I could answer a bit of your questions

Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: bitcoinfan123 on Feb 14, 10:36 AM 2023
Quote from: huskerdu on Jan 25, 05:45 PM 2023Test it for another 5,5 years and come back here again in 2028 to tell us your results. In the same thread.

hello

as I have no LC permanenzen in .txt form I did some more testing with random.org RNG numbers
those are the results for 5 years, just in case you or someone else is interested as it is interesting IMO

RNG von random.org 30 x 250 coups = 1 month  12 times = 12 month = 1 year


289+          674+    =  963+
 38-          653+    =  615+
481+          221-    =  260+
343+          199+    =  542+
241+           24+    =  265+

by the way the RNG testing was easy as I have now a small and simple program which does the test for me. fast and simple.

if someone knows where I can get >txt permanenzen from LC not OC this would be very much appreciated
Title: Re: Plein System / Strategy - interested in serious feedback
Post by: ramonamarkos on Apr 17, 12:41 PM 2023
congratulations! im studying/playing roulette for 15 years and no success, so when i see that somebody can win im happy. I wish all the best!