An idea based on the CHALLENGE FOR ALL thread

[ugly bob]

The next game ran as smooth as silk.

23
33  1a missing leaves 8,9,11,12,14,15,17,18.  bet 11,18.
27  1a missing leaves 8,9,11,12,14,15,17,18.  bet 11,15,18.
14  1a missing leaves 8,9,11,12,14,15,17,18.  bet 8,11,15,18.
4  3c missing leaves 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11.  bet 1,8,11.
20  3c missing leaves 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11.  bet 1,8,11.
12  3a missing leaves 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,12.  bet 8,11,12.
17  3a missing leaves 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,12.  bet 8,11,12.
23  3a missing leaves 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,12.  bet 8,11,12.
14  3a missing leaves 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,12.  bet 8,11,12.
30  1a missing.  +45.

9 games. 27 splits. Returns 72.


These good sequences come along in the sea of randomness every now and then.
Playing through the bad sequence in the last game would have took the profits away from this game. Of course you could get 2/3 bad games in a row. That just makes it even more important in my eyes to learn when to cut a bad game short. There was 4 wins from 5 spins in this batch where you could have slightly raised the bets.
You can afford to do that when the average bet is just a handful of splits.


bob.

[TwoCatSam]

bob

I'm trying to get my head around this.  Looks interesting.  I will post some questions soon.

I totally don't understand it!!

Sam

[ugly bob]

bob

I'm trying to get my head around this.  Looks interesting.  I will post some questions soon.

I totally don't understand it!!

Sam

sam

The last few examples are done in shorthand.
The full explanation is in the first 2 posts. Fire away with any questions.


bob.

[TwoCatSam]

U.B.

I think my "TwoCat-FLATman Redneck 9 v 9 Magnetic Tracker"  will also work for this.  I'll rename it the "TwoCat-FLATman-ugly bob Redneck 9 v 9 Furthest Back Columns/Dozens/Some Splits Magnetic Tracker"

I'll have a look later today and post some questions.

Sam

[ugly bob]

One thing I will say for anybody who is going to play this.
Make sure you understand it inside out first.
You need to know all the splits of by heart.
20 is split 11.
13 is split 7 and so on.
Knowing this means you do not even have to write down the numbers.
Just write down the splits.
Another thing I do is write out the table layout with just the splits.

1   2   3
4   5   6
----------
7   8   9
10 11 12
----------
13 14 15
16 17 18

You need to know that 1-6 equals the first dozen.
1,4,7,10,13,16 equals the first column.
This works great for a visual aid.
Just put a circle around the splits as they hit.

Here is an example of how I would do it.
(remember these are splits and not numbers)

16  3A
6  1C

The 2B is the furthest back.

1   2   3
4   5   x
----------
7   8   9
10 11 12
----------
13 14 15
xx 17 18

You can wipe out the whole of 2b.
This just leaves you looking at the 1,4,13,16 and 3,6,15,18.
You can see in an instant that the 6 and the 16 are circled.
(or marked with an x as shown above)
This points out your bets immediately.
Doing it this way will allow you time to think.
That is crucial when playing any type of system.


bob.

[TwoCatSam]

OK, bob, I've cleared my desk to take this thing on.  I have questions:

1.  Before you are qualified to bet, must you have both a dozen and a column with a furthest hit?

1 A
2 B
Furthest is
3 C........which would be left out of the calculations.

Is that much right?

What if you have

1 A
1 B
Do you wait?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

bob

I have studied post number 1 for an hour.  I can't see why you are betting the way you are.

Sam

[ugly bob]

OK, bob, I've cleared my desk to take this thing on.  I have questions:

1.  Before you are qualified to bet, must you have both a dozen and a column with a furthest hit?

1 A
2 B
Furthest is
3 C........which would be left out of the calculations.

Is that much right?

What if you have

1 A
1 B
Do you wait?

Sam

sam

1A
2B

You are correct in assuming that 3C would be the furthest back.
What you can now do is wipe out the splits that belong to 3C.
The splits that belong to 3C are 3,6,9,12,13,14,15,16,17,18.
The 3 is 3/6.
The 6 is 9/12.
The 9 is 15/18.
The 12 is 21/24.
The 13 is 25/28.
The 14 is 26/29.
The 15 is 27/30.
The 16 is 31/34.
The 17 is 32/35.
The 18 is 33/36.
Remember the 3C equals dozen 3 and column C.

We completely ignore all these splits as long as 3C is the furthest back.
You will find that there are always 10 splits wiped out whatever the furthest back dozen and column is.
This now leaves you with 8 splits left and of course you will always be left with 8 splits after wiping out 10.
Here are the 8 splits left over taking into account the 3C is the furthest back.
1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11.
The 1 is 1/4.
The 2 is 2/5.
The 4 is 7/10.
The 5 is 8/11.
The 7 is 13/16.
The 8 is 14/17.
The 10 is 19/22.
The 11 is 20/23.

You look through these 8 splits and only bet the ones that have already appeared.


''What if you have

1A
1B  Do you wait''  - sam.

Yes. You have the furthest back C but are still waiting for the furthest back dozen.
You can not have more than one furthest back dozen or column.

If it then brings 2C.

1A
1B
2C

You now have

xx
1B
2C  The furthest back is 3A.

The 10 splits wiped out from the 3A are 1,4,7,10,13,14,15,16,17,18.
The 8 splits left are 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,12.
You would only bet any splits that have already appeared in those 8.

Does that clear a few things up?


bob.

[TwoCatSam]

bob

Brother, you did  lot of typing there.  I appreciate your trying to be thorough, but I understood all but the point in question.  My Redneck Tracker already has those splits and dozens set up.

Why do you sometimes bet 3 or more splits?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

bob......I am in blue; you are in black.

16.  x  xx
2.  (2)  1B
13. (7)  2A

The next bet would just be a repeat of the last betting splits 2 and 7.............you wrote.

Look at it this way:

16. (7)  2A
2.  (2)  1B
13. (7)  2A

Now your furthest back dozen is 3 and your column is C.  Why do you use x xx?





16.  x  xx
2.  (2)  xB
13. (7)  2x
28. (13)  3A

The bet lost and now the new furthest back dozen is the 1. The furthest back column is still the C.
This again wipes out 10 splits which are 1,2,3,4,5,6,9,12,15,18.
There are only 8 splits left which are 7,8,10,11,13,14,16,17.
The 7 and 13 have already shown and so you bet these 2 only.

16.  x  xx
2.  (2)  xx
13. (7)  xx
28. (13)  3A
24. (12)  2C

The bet lost and the furthest back dozen is still the 1. The new furthest back column is now the B.
The 10 splits wiped out are 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,11,14,17.
There are only 8 splits left which are 7,9,10,12,13,15,16,18.
The 7, 12 and 13 have already shown and so you bet these 3 only.


My question is why do you bet three splits?

bob, if I just understood why you were betting a split, that's all I need.

[ugly bob]

sam

I do not mind if you give me a number at a time if you like and we can work through it.


bob.

[TwoCatSam]

bob

Could we sum it up in a single sentence:  If a split has hit and is not in the furthest back dozen or column, we bet that/those splits.

Sam

[ugly bob]

Hey that works for me!
That is a very neat way of putting it.

Thanks sam 

[TwoCatSam]

OK ugliest man on the forum

I will run with that definition I posted and do a few spins.

Later........and Thanks!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

bob

OK, I did some tests and it scared me it hit so many times.

Let me tell you how I do this.  I have a board for the 9 v 9 system.  Each spit, 1-18 is marked out.  It sits atop a metal plate so I use magnetic pucks to mark the spits.

A numbers comes.  I puck that split.  Another number comes.  I puck that split.  The first thing I do when a number comes is puck it on the board.

THEN

When it becomes evident I have an oldest dozen or column, I look at the board and if there are splits marked in that dozen or column, I wipe them off and bet the ones remaining.

I then puck the split that hit and look for the oldest dozen column.  I then wipe of the pucks from the sheet and bet the remainders.

Sam