ATTENTION ! Street system that passed 10.000 spins!

[iggiv]

"""the problem is (for me-- about your method)  that is based on typical gambler fallacy mindset.
"Due theory". that something that did not hit for long time must hit. that's a very dangerous approach to this tricky game. the difference is that u work not with  EC, but rather streets. so far so good, your method showed good results. but i still would not trust it. """

Yes ofcource iggiv this is my opinion too as you know and that s why we need a 1.000.000 test it see what is going on.
Any system that is NOT based on VB or BIAS is a gambling fallacy system...but if we wouldn t fight roulette with other ways than VB and bias then this forum would be closed.

"""Nice to see something attracting SO much attention for a change."""

Me too 

"""R.E. U thought about setting up a dedicated team to test widely?"""

I don't think that anyone likes testing manually these days. LoL(sad but true).
That s why we are waiting for a programmer to code it and run the test.


"""RExpl mentioned that flat bet is not working but the progression is working. that's NOT A GOOD SIGN. practically we all know that if flatbet is not working with a certain method, the progression would fail either,"""

Yes iggiv this is what logic say....but we all know also that FLAT BET nothing can win(exept VB or Bias).
So the only thing that we have left is a good money management.(we made a hole topic about this)

i tend no to agree with some things u say but prefer not to go too deep into it. thanx.
my advice is don't concentrate on the same method all the time. i said it before and will say again.
stiff bet selections won't work. but nobody forces u to use only one method to play.
this forum is full of good playable methods, u can combine them. and this may work.

also to make your method more flexible i can suggest u to add hot street approach to your method as well. basically if u use hot inside and outside bets u get more chances to win than betting on cold.

and i see no reason to test this method for millions of spins. the outcome is well known.
if u see that your method works well frequently just include it with others, and that's it.
don't play it for hours, use it from time to time and not for too long

[amk]

Hello Iggiv,

You bring up a good point which might be interesting to run tests on............

I agree, combining different methods is the way to go............

[iggiv]

thanks. yes, and preferable betting HOT, not cold. i am not saying it happens all the time but from what i know trend players sometimes win a lot in roulette.

but here comes to the scene careful money management, discipline and stuff like that

[speed]

don't play it for hours, use it from time to time and not for too long

With all due respect Iggiv, there no statistically difference if for example I go play now one hour and wait some time and play again or to play for two hours without a break..  I think only ophis know how system go on long term  because he tested  And thanks RE for post system.

[nitrix]

Okay I just got back from home and got some free time for testing. Rules sounds pretty straight forward, I'll ask if I have any questions to any specific scenario that might not be covered. Also as someone said before, even if I have years of experience with programming,

>> don't trust any results from a test you did not do yourself.

That being said, it shouldn't take too long, I'm eating at that same time, ahah.

Logs will be attached so we can discuss the results.

Status: Implementing rule #4 (1, 2 & 3 are done)
Specific unsure scenarios: 1

[iggiv]

With all due respect Iggiv, there no statistically difference if for example I go play now one hour and wait some time and play again or to play for two hours without a break..  I think only ophis know how system go on long term  because he tested  And thanks RE for post system.

there is practical difference. there is real life out there, maybe without proper statistics. read some legitimate roulette books, and u will see what i am talking about. and there is a fact that most of casino players are at certain point ahead, but there is another fact, that absolutely most of them
lose this advantage and are down after. and longer they play -- more chances to lose. as simple as that. u can hear those stories over and over again. some one won, then lost.

i know someone who told me this smart thing i like very much " A good player has always one eye looking at the door". and this is true. u gotta know when to quit. even if there are no statistics about it

[ophis]

I would like to ask for sample session (40 spins) of this system to verify the tracker.

[speed]

and longer they play -- more chances to lose. as simple as that. You can hear those stories over and over again. some one won, then lost.

Please tell  me  what is the difference in practice if i play for five hours without stopping and play for five hours with stoping?! Without reading this books with  100% I tell you there no diference. If u have bad luck u can hit bad run in first 5 min of play.. Please think about it.

[iggiv]

is it from your experience? if u play the same methods for 5 hours in a row or u play them for a month
10 minutes each day?

i don't have to think about it. i have thought about it already. and i know what others think. Those who are much more experienced than me. and i guess than u as well.

[speed]

is it from your experience? if u play the same methods for 5 hours in a row or u play them for a month
10 minutes each day?

i don't have to think about it. i have thought about it already. and i know what others think. Those who are much more experienced than me. and i guess than u as well.

You have not answered the question. Take, for example, 1000 hours of play, you and others think that some system that  not passed long run test  can be wining if u play one hour per day and play 1000 days? Is this your practice teory?

[iggiv]

basically the answer is yes.

it is not 100% true of course, there could be just an opposite of course sometimes. But usually players playing long hours will generally lose more than the players playing the same methods as "hit-n-run", quitting early.

if u don't know this fact, then u don't know much about gambling, sorry. I can't bring any mathematical base under this fact, this is just well known fact for any more or less smart gambler. and casinos know this fact very well too. they usually encourage players to play as long as possible with any means. offering drinks and so on. because they know -- longer the player will play -- more likely he will lose more.

and u probably missed what i already said before: most of the players are ahead at some point, and most of them lose because they keep playing instead of quitting after win. this is well know fact as well.

[speed]

basically the answer is yes.

it is not 100% true of course, there could be just an opposite of course sometimes. But usually players playing long hours will generally lose more than the players playing the same methods as "hit-n-run", quitting early.

if u don't know this fact, then u don't know much about gambling, sorry. I can't bring any mathematical base under this fact, this is just well known fact for any more or less smart gambler. and casinos know this fact very well too. they usually encourage players to play as long as possible with any means. offering drinks and so on. because they know -- longer the player will play -- more likely he will lose more.

and u probably missed what i already said before: most of the players are ahead at some point, and most of them lose because they keep playing instead of quitting after win. this is well know fact as well.

Sorry to have to tell you this but all who belive in this teory will lose a lot of money if you have not already..

[Wally Gator]

Hi Wally! I played your numbers on paper and came to a result of -42, betting 14 units in the end on 3 streets (1-3, 25-27, 28-30).
Maybe I made some mistakes in calculation, but this is the result I get playing the way I understand the explanation.

Thanks, Max.

[iggiv]

Sorry to have to tell you this but all who belive in this teory will lose a lot of money if you have not already..

no problem
i got used to different ideas in those forums. some people believe in numerology as well, u may believe that hit-n-run will make u lose more money than playing continuously. Good luck, bud 

[speed]

no problem
i got used to different ideas in those forums. some people believe in numerology as well, u may believe that hit-n-run will make u lose more money than playing continuously. Good luck, bud 

No I belive that hit and run and continuosly play on 1000000 or more spins of play with  losing system will give the same results.