An effort to help some members get out of the worst gambing fallacy

[Ralph]

The world is in our mind, it is not 100 years ago we did not know it was anything beyond the milk way, and they were playing roulette, with a conception of an universe rather small from now days view.

The did not counting its growing at an ever faster speed as the stakes on red losses.

They know about it was more than Newtonian mechanics but still they stick to it in the ballistic  reading to beat the wheel, we still do.

[amk]

Still Quote:


"I keep an open mind because nothing is as it seems...in a universe opposite reality."






Then you are free.


(I don't mean for that to sound very serious )

[Robeenhuut]

Bravo Robeenhuut!!! You're the first one on this forum who connected deviation and positive progression. 

This is the same way I play roulette for a long time, i have some modification but base is the same , so far proved to be long term winner, tested in RX on milions spins. Who does not believe it should try.


speed

Thx Speed. Could you please give us more info on it?

[Bayes]

Bayes....have you read the book? . I didn't really see much evidence on what he had decided what M-theory exactly was. It was wishy washy...but...I liked most of it. Its a good read.  looking at the odds against it, we shouldnt be here, but considering the universe is so massive of course we should.
I'm reading Brian Cox/Jeff Forshaw The Quantum Universe. Its much heavier reading than "why does E=MC2" by him....and that was hard going. I don't know why I put myself through it. After all...what's it got to do with the price of fish?

TF, no I haven't read it, only some reviews - might get around to it one day.

I must admit I find this speculative scientific stuff a bit boring, Physics seems to have lost touch with reality these days, in my opinion. Most of it seems like a fudge to make the equations balance. For me, developments in the life sciences are more interesting.

But here's one on my reading list - link:://:.mikamar.biz/book-info/tes-a.htm

By the way, are you a buddhist?

[Turner]

By the way, are you a buddhist?

I would say I am not a buddhist..because you have to of been born one..too much western programming in me, but I study it. I've read much Alan Watts, Dogen, Suzuki, Humphreys, to name a few.

I think Einstein said something like this " If there is any religion that stands up to the modern way of thinking, it would be buddhism"

I suffered badly from depression many years ago and Buddhism changed my life. Made me realise that your own thinking is the cause of all your problems.

Seems a bit spooky you ask just before I changed my avatar...(I hadnt read your post then)

if you say "I am a Buddhist"....you have already misunderstood it and left the path.

[vladir]

You migth find this book rather interesting, altough it's quite old already (1975). Still actual in some parallels it makes:

link:s://:.dmt-nexus.me/Files/Books/General/The%20Tao%20Of%20Physics.pdf


PS: Why you say you need to be born a budhist to be one? Is that a race? LoL Are you saying that if you are born christian, you can't be anything else? Because I was raised in a christian/catholic background, and I don't follow any of that.
All this notions of religion are lerned through life. We are born atheists, all of us. And completly ignorant of all the religious concepts. Then we are programed as you said through life. But once you understand that everything you know, everything that "defines" you is programed, when you understand it deep in you, the moment when everythign falls off, it's also when you understand that you can reprogram everything that you learned, anytime you wan't. Religious concepts are absolutly no diferent, and as such I believe you can call yourself a budist virtually anytime you want.

if you say "I am a Buddhist"....you have already misunderstood it and left the path.

Not at all. You can equally be on "the path" with budism or anything else. How can you say you are not in the path, if anyway, you are not getting anywhere, no matter what you choose?? There is no path at all A litle like Allan says (in other words), "the path" is for people who like to suffer, before understanding. It doesn't mean they won't "get there". It's for people who are still clinging to something. Actually "getting there" is ackowledging there is no path...
Ahahah But then, it's fun to come to "the path again" and play the game.
I guess people who are not aware of what Watts say's or don't know eastern philosofy will think I'm crazy



PPS: Allan Watts is really great . You can find really good stuf from him on youtube. Here is one of my favourites:
Alan Watts - The Religion of No Religion

[Turner]

Vladir...this is why i hate text. You cant allways get the point across.i meant that its difficult to be a true buddhist without being born in a buddhist family in the east. To say im this or im that isnt the point. I just know that the ego and thoughts are the things to try and understand. Once you can see your thoughts happening and dying away during meditation you start to understand why you like and hate. Its hard to prevent the egos reaction but ive learned to regognise it.

[speed]

thanks Speed. Could you please give us more info on it?

this is the first time I write about this in public.

simplest method:

when is STD on at a certain point 3-6 (your choice) u can start with bet on deviation to go to normal with positive Labouchere prog.
To prevent the large holes in the bank u need to use stop loss-win.

Note: stop win-loss will work because system is long term winner.

Let some coder made ​​test on million spins if someone does not believe.

speed

[Still]

If i may,  the buddhist is off the proverbial straight and narrow path for the same reason a christian is off the straight and narrow when calling himself a christian.  These are subtle ways of denying one's identity as Buddha, or as Christ...which is the whole point!   The issue is about identity. One is Buddha, or one denies it.  Denial leads to the rise of a thinking, calculating mind often called the 'ego'.  One must be careful when identifying with the Highest (Buddha/Christ) not to include the ego and it's multitude of misrepresentations.  The ego is responsible for all meta-physical phenomenon.  It's imperative not to include it as anything but misrepresentation of Buddha/Christ...or else one will then be on the proverbial broad road that leads to destruction.   The objective of the kind of 'no-thought' meditations that the east is famous for is to starve out the ego of the sustenance it feeds on (thinking) so that it 'dies'.   When it is dead, one's life as Buddha/Christ resumes as normal. 

[monaco]

Bravo Robeenhuut!!! You're the first one on this forum who connected deviation and positive progression. 

This is the same way I play roulette for a long time, i have some modification but base is the same , so far proved to be long term winner, tested in RX on milions spins. Who does not believe it should try.


speed

well not strictly true, same observation was made a little while ago on Standard Deviation Math Formula thread -
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9853.msg86214#msg86214


I've been trying since then to find the best progression to take advantage of this situation.


The problem I find is if correction is not a large or even medium correction;- once you have your STD3, say 14 singles & 2 series, & your next 10 events are more balanced as might be expected, leaving you with say 19 singles & 7 series (STD2.35), your STD has decreased as might be expected/hoped for, but the absolute deviation is still 12 (difference in amounts between the 2 events you are tracking).


The last 2 sessions I have played, I've used Skakus' EC Money Management which combines a positive & a negative progression, as this gives profit when you are obtaining close to 50/50 results (as in a situation where the STD is decreasing but the absolute deviation is staying roughly the same), but also includes a positive progression to take advantage if the difference in the absolute deivation decreases as well as the STD.

this is the first time I write about this in public.

simplest method:

when is STD on at a certain point 3-6 (your choice) You can start with bet on deviation to go to normal with positive Labouchere prog.
To prevent the large holes in the bank u need to use stop-loss-win.

Note: stop-win-loss will work because system is long term winner.

Let some coder made ​​test on million spins if someone does not believe.

speed

do you mean to use a reverse labouchere? I hadn't tried this.. I will, thanks.

[Drazen]

On Marigny over 1024 placed bets i have +80 flat bet which is 3.23 STD with first march to catch corrections i tested 

But now trying 2nd march, which slight different and for now works even better... 

Yes positive progression is way to go. Look here, mr. Bayes attached modification of reversed labouchere. It is quite interesting. You wanna try this, belive me

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450

Cheers

Drazen

[monaco]

On Marigny over 1024 placed bets i have +80 flat bet which is 3.23 STD with first march to catch corrections i tested 

But now trying 2nd march, which slight different and for now works even better... 

Yes positive progression is way to go. Look here, mr. Bayes attached modification of reversed labouchere. It is quite interesting. You wanna try this, belive me

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2904.msg26450#msg26450

Cheers

Drazen

cheers Drazen   

[Stepkevh]

Drazen,

When i click your link i get this

"An Error Has Occurred!
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."


Stephan

[Drazen]

Oh Stepkevh now it seems that is maybe something with your account. You had same issue with ego-s link. Maybe you should ask some of mods why is that happening to you?

I checked the link. It works. For monaco also obviously...

While you are solving that, I all attach you that file here and i think now you could get it.

Cheers

Drazen

[speed]

Deviation by itself is not enough to overcome the house advantage (1.35)
When the deviation reached a certain point you need start to bet with slow positive progression such as positive labouchere, it is simple and you all know it.

Who does not know what is the positive progression:
*positive progression is when on win bet u increase the next bet, negative progression is when u on loss bet increase bet. 

Im in the past post the graphics on this forum that shows positive chronos  with some modifications beat home advantage in the long run, i think its 700 000 spins but it have big holes in bank. i reduced that big holes with new modifications but  it still need a solid bank to play for 100% win...