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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Winner

Worm 🐛  guard results
I happy for those who are trying to put together a method .matbe one day you’ll come to know the worm guard after messing around for years trying to beat the odds .cough cough.
LLw +1
Wll+2
Wlw+3
Lww+4
Lwl+5
LLL +6
LLL+7
LLw +8
Wlw+9
Lwl+10
To be continued

jono1167

Quote from: Winner on Mar 19, 01:37 PM 2019
Worm 🐛  guard results
I happy for those who are trying to put together a method .matbe one day you’ll come to know the worm guard after messing around for years trying to beat the odds .cough cough.
LLw +1
Wll+2
Wlw+3
Lww+4
Lwl+5
LLL +6
LLL+7
LLw +8
Wlw+9
Lwl+10
To be continued

Damn Winner!!! 👍

atlantis

Quote from: Winner on Mar 19, 01:37 PM 2019
Worm 🐛  guard results

LLw +1
Wll+2
Wlw+3
Lww+4
Lwl+5
LLL +6
LLL+7
LLw +8
Wlw+9
Lwl+10


Hi winner,
Of course I am interested in the "worm guard" (like the name , btw) :)
I would even be more impressed if you could duplicate those fantastic results given but this time using some actual results provided by a member to test with...
Have you thought of testing  the "worm guard" on Mister Eko's challenge+0  results?
It would really be great if you could show if those results would hold up and be just as good after testing on the first 200 or so results in Mister Eko's file??
Reason I ask is  - it would be very interesting to see how your method copes with these. My personal view is that any EC system that can beat these results and pass this test could well be classed and accepted as a long term winner.
I'm slowly working my way thru them all myself.
I'm certain if you could prove "worm guard" delivers the same amazing results like you showed above it will rightly get  the due respect and attention it deserves. Ppl will sit up and want to to analyse and figure it out for themselves with or without your help. However - this is roulette - we all know what CAN happen given time whether using flatbet or progression. You showed some good results; but how are we to know what may happen further down the line if and when the pendulum swings in the opposite direction and good fortune disappears and the dreaded long losing run manifests?
However, let me thank you for sparking interest in the 'worm guard' and I salute your positive attitude and well- intentioned efforts to defeat the roulette! :) 

Best wishes,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 19, 01:37 PM 2019
Worm 🐛  guard results
I happy for those who are trying to put together a method .matbe one day you’ll come to know the worm guard after messing around for years trying to beat the odds .cough cough.
LLw +1
Wll+2
Wlw+3
Lww+4
Lwl+5
LLL +6
LLL+7
LLw +8
Wlw+9
Lwl+10
To be continued

Winner, are you playing new style ? What is this worms playing mate? :)

I think Winner generates every triplets +1 units. So after 200 spins, its around 66 triples, he would get 66 units.

Winner

Atlantis No need for  mr  Eko challenge I have tested every thing I mentioned on this thread I posted a few methods to bet , from flat to a progression. You can make a few dollars with them and again this thread was a way for people to understand a way to look at the game and not the odds . Stick to one thing and dissect the shit out of it and once you find it stick with it .Out of the methods I presented I like alot of them it helped me create  the 🐛 guard which I would like to keep to myself but I believe that the ones that work at and keep experimenting you’ll find that winning bet that can help you win for as long as you play roulette.long waiting times I don’t like so if a system or method requires to long of a wait to place bets you have to ask your self is it worth it.

jono1167

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 18, 09:20 PM 2019
Jono and others.

I give you one testing approach with zeros.

If any of yours twisted system survival these approach, you will win in long run.

Mr Eko said these numbers would be tough and he was right!

For full results, see below.....

Winners's Dominant 3 (using D'alembert) 100 results


1,1,2 - 2,2,1 LLW  (0),  1,1,1 - 1 W (+1),  1,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+2),  2,0,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+3),  2,2,1 - 2 W  (+4),  2,2,1 - 2 W  (+5),  2,2,2 - 2 W (+6),   2,1,2 - 1,1,2 LLW  (+6),  0,1,2,1 - 2,1 LW (+7),   1,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+8),  2,2,2 - 1,2 LW   (+9),
2,1,2 - 1,2 LW.  (+10),  1,1,1 - 1 W   (+11),   2,2,1 - 1,2 LW (+12),  1,1,1 - 2,2,2 LLL (+6),   1,1,1 - 2,1 LW (+7),  1,1,2 - 2,2,1 LLW  (+4),   2,2,1 - 2 W   (+9),   1,2,2 - 1,2 LW  (+10),   2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL (-5),  1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (-4),  1,2,2 - 1,1,2  LW  (-3),  1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-11),  1,1,2 - 1  W (-5),  1,1,0,1 - 2,2,1 LLW (-9),   1,1,2 - 1 W (-3),  1,2,2 - 2 W (+2), 1,1,2 -1 W  (+6),  1,2,1 - 1 W (+9),  1,1,1 - 2,2,1 LLW (+8),  1,2,1 - 2,1  LW  (+9),  1,1,2 - 1  W  (+12),  2,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+13), 2,1,1 - 1  W (+15),  1,1,1 - 1 W  (+16),   1,1,2 - 2,1  LW  (+17),  2,1,2 - 2  W (+18),  2,2,1 - 1,1,1 LLL (+12),
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW  (+13), 1,2,1 - 1  W (+17),  1,2,2 - 1,1,2 LLW (+15),  1,1,2 - 1 W  (+19), 1,2,1 - 0,1 LW  (+20),  2,2,1 - 1,1,0 LLL (+8),  1,1,2 - 1  W  (+14),  2,2,1 - 1,1,0 LLL (-4), 1,2,2 - 2 W  (+4) 0,0,1,2,2 - 2 W (+11),  2,2,2 - 1,2 LW  (+12),  2,1,1 - 1 W  (+18),  2,2,1 - 1,2 LW (+19), 1,2,1 - 2,1 LW (+20),
2,2,1 - 1,1,2 LLW (+20)

Profit = +20 units (D'alembert)
(Flat bet -3)

These numbers were definitely tougher. This time yesterday I was sitting on +42 d'alembert and +12 flat bet for the same number of spins. However, I'm glad the system has held up with a tougher set of numbers.

What's really good is that I only went to level 8 in the progression and everything recovered really quickly. 8 units is not a large bet!

You might think I would be disappointed with -3 flat bet. Not at all! Another good result with a tough set of numbers. After 100 spins, -3 units flat bet is far from a disaster.

* One of the reasons the progression holds up is that I try to reset if where I can. On the second last spin I was equal with the most recent high (20 units). The progression was telling me to place 5 units on the next spin, however I reset it (1 unit).

I will post another 100 results tomorrow morning. They will be a continuation of these results.

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 19, 04:22 PM 2019
Atlantis No need for  mr  Eko challenge I have tested every thing I mentioned on this thread I posted a few methods to bet , from flat to a progression. You can make a few dollars with them and again this thread was a way for people to understand a way to look at the game and not the odds . Stick to one thing and dissect the shit out of it and once you find it stick with it .Out of the methods I presented I like alot of them it helped me create  the 🐛 guard which I would like to keep to myself but I believe that the ones that work at and keep experimenting you’ll find that winning bet that can help you win for as long as you play roulette.long waiting times I don’t like so if a system or method requires to long of a wait to place bets you have to ask your self is it worth it.

Winner, are you switching between your methods after every triplets or ?

Mister Eko

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 19, 04:29 PM 2019
Mr Eko said these numbers would be tough and he was right!

For full results, see below.....

Winners's Dominant 3 (using D'alembert) 100 results


1,1,2 - 2,2,1 LLW  (0),  1,1,1 - 1 W (+1),  1,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+2),  2,0,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+3),  2,2,1 - 2 W  (+4),  2,2,1 - 2 W  (+5),  2,2,2 - 2 W (+6),   2,1,2 - 1,1,2 LLW  (+6),  0,1,2,1 - 2,1 LW (+7),   1,1,1 - 2,1 LW  (+8),  2,2,2 - 1,2 LW   (+9),
2,1,2 - 1,2 LW.  (+10),  1,1,1 - 1 W   (+11),   2,2,1 - 1,2 LW (+12),  1,1,1 - 2,2,2 LLL (+6),   1,1,1 - 2,1 LW (+7),  1,1,2 - 2,2,1 LLW  (+4),   2,2,1 - 2 W   (+9),   1,2,2 - 1,2 LW  (+10),   2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL (-5),  1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (-4),  1,2,2 - 1,1,2  LW  (-3),  1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-11),  1,1,2 - 1  W (-5),  1,1,0,1 - 2,2,1 LLW (-9),   1,1,2 - 1 W (-3),  1,2,2 - 2 W (+2), 1,1,2 -1 W  (+6),  1,2,1 - 1 W (+9),  1,1,1 - 2,2,1 LLW (+8),  1,2,1 - 2,1  LW  (+9),  1,1,2 - 1  W  (+12),  2,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+13), 2,1,1 - 1  W (+15),  1,1,1 - 1 W  (+16),   1,1,2 - 2,1  LW  (+17),  2,1,2 - 2  W (+18),  2,2,1 - 1,1,1 LLL (+12),
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW  (+13), 1,2,1 - 1  W (+17),  1,2,2 - 1,1,2 LLW (+15),  1,1,2 - 1 W  (+19), 1,2,1 - 0,1 LW  (+20),  2,2,1 - 1,1,0 LLL (+8),  1,1,2 - 1  W  (+14),  2,2,1 - 1,1,0 LLL (-4), 1,2,2 - 2 W  (+4) 0,0,1,2,2 - 2 W (+11),  2,2,2 - 1,2 LW  (+12),  2,1,1 - 1 W  (+18),  2,2,1 - 1,2 LW (+19), 1,2,1 - 2,1 LW (+20),
2,2,1 - 1,1,2 LLW (+20)

Profit = +20 units (D'alembert)
(Flat bet -3)

These numbers were definitely tougher. This time yesterday I was sitting on +42 d'alembert and +12 flat bet for the same number of spins. However, I'm glad the system has held up with a tougher set of numbers.

What's really good is that I only went to level 8 in the progression and everything recovered really quickly. 8 units is not a large bet!

You might think I would be disappointed with -3 flat bet. Not at all! Another good result with a tough set of numbers. After 100 spins, -3 units flat bet is far from a disaster.

* One of the reasons the progression holds up is that I try to reset if where I can. On the second last spin I was equal with the most recent high (20 units). The progression was telling me to place 5 units on the next spin, however I reset it (1 unit).

I will post another 100 results tomorrow morning. They will be a continuation of these results.

Jono, thanks that you testing with my disaster numebers! These will be ahrder and harder after spin by spins ! Yes these are live numbers.


Andre Chass

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 19, 04:29 PM 2019


What's really good is that I only went to level 8 in the progression and everything recovered really quickly. 8 units is not a large bet!

You might think I would be disappointed with -3 flat bet. Not at all! Another good result with a tough set of numbers. After 100 spins, -3 units flat bet is far from a disaster.


If you're betting $1 value chips, that's ok. Otherwise if you are making bets with chips $100 value or more, then this is a disaster.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Mister Eko

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 19, 11:19 PM 2019
If you're betting $1 value chips, that's ok. Otherwise if you are making bets with chips $100 value or more, then this is a disaster.

Not such a big disaster, while the winnings will bwcome larger then the bets. If you played this with 100 euros, 800 euro was the max bet, while you won 2000 euro. Its not bad, no disaster. Anyway I think too, that dalembert will sooner or later kill us. Especially the dominant 3 version. But its just mine

Winner

🐛 guard result to all the nay sayers

lwl+
LLL+
Www-
wll-
LLL-
Wwl
Www
Lww
Lww
Wwl
LLw
Www
LLL
Wlw
Lww
Wwl
Lwl
Wll
Www
LLL
LLL
Lwl
Wll
LLw
Www
Wll
Wlw
Wwl
Lww
Lwl
Wll
LLL
Wlw
LLL
LLw
Lww
LLL
Www
Wll
LLL
Wwl
Lwl
Www
Wll
Wlw
Lww
Lww
Wwl
LLL
Wll
Wll
Wwl
LLL
Lww
Wwl
LLL
Wwl
Lwl
Lww
Lwl
Lwl
LLw
Wll
Wwl
Wlw
LLL
Lwl
LLL
Lww
Lww
Wlw
Wll
LLL
Wwl
Lww
Wll
Lwl
LLL
Wwl
+20 flat bet /11124816

jono1167

Quote from: Winner on Mar 20, 09:23 AM 2019
🐛 guard result to all the nay sayers

lwl+
LLL+
Www-
wll-
Etc.......

+20 flat bet /11124816

Not too many spins. Nice strike rate Winner!

boyd30

Testing Mr Eko's challenge. I try d'Alembert but I don't know if Jono and I are doing it exactly the same. So far so good, but many numbers to go through. Will continue the test..

boyd30

Btw, had to bet 9 units once

jono1167

Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 20, 02:25 PM 2019
Testing Mr Eko's challenge. I try d'Alembert but I don't know if Jono and I are doing it exactly the same. So far so good, but many numbers to go through. Will continue the test..

Nice chart Boyd!

In my last post I said I try to reset the progression where I can. In my last game (second last spin), the progression was telling me to place 5 units on the next spin. However, because I was even with the most recent high, I reset the progression to 1 unit.

This has definitely helped....

Good job Boyd

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