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Any systems that cover the entire board including 0?

Started by falkor, Oct 05, 07:51 PM 2014

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falkor

I'm fascinated if such a system exists... You wouldn't win anything if you had exactly 1 chip on each number, of course, but perhaps something magical could happen with differing bets per number? If you had a tally showing the appearance totals of each number after so many spins, you could bet a different amount on each number based on how far they are individually behind or in-front one another, relatively. But you would not have enough time to make such a bet, though what you can do is maybe add chips as numbers get cold and/or reduce chips as numbers get hot. Eventually, you would have a different amount of chips on each number based on their trends, and you could work the system simply by using the "repeat bet" button. To make it work would mean good bet selection for the initial bet only, followed by excellent timing and pacing of your progression.

iggiv

link:://wizardofodds.com/gambling/ten-commandments/


7.Thou shalt not hedge thy bets

Hedge bets usually carry a high house edge. For example, never take insurance in blackjack and never bet the any craps or any seven in craps. Exceptions can be made for insuring life changing amounts of money.

nottophammer

with the info your now beginning to get on ds's, why not back the first 3 ds's group (1) and the last3 ds's group(2), 1st 18 (1) 2nd 18 (2), 1 unit on Mr Green.
Now if Mr Green comes bingo, if not you've lost1 unit,so restake and the group that lost double up. So 1st bet 7 units 2nd bet 10 units, if double group hits you'd be +1. Just hope you dont get a long run of doubling up,when stake is going above the return of Mr Green add another unit on it
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

winkel

Quote from: falkor on Oct 05, 07:51 PM 2014
You wouldn't win anything if you had exactly 1 chip on each number, of course, but perhaps something magical could happen with differing bets per number?

That tells a lot about your thinking. Not only you wouldn´t win anything, you would lose 1 unit

QuoteNow if Mr Green comes bingo, if not you've lost1 unit,

Nottophammer, why then not betting only Mr. Green?
There is always a game

superman

QuoteThat tells a lot about your thinking

Yeah I thought that too.

QuoteNot only you wouldn´t win anything, you would lose 1 unit

He did say INCLUDING the 0

@falkor - if you are saying cover the whole table then start adding, why not leave the table empty then start adding, starting at no chips as opposed to 1 chip, that would keep this astronomical waste of chips/time thought of yours a bit cheaper, good luck with the tests.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

nottophammer

Nope if the doubled group not hit you'll be plus, only problem is a long run on doubling up could get you to table limit.


       (1)         (2)          (Zero)                (1)                (2)              (Zero)
2      2            L               L                     3                  3                   1           = 7 units     return   6 units

17   17           L               L                     3                  6                   1           = 10units    return   6 units


15    15          L               L                     3                  12                  1          = 16 units   return    6 units

34     L            34             L                     3                   24                 1          = 28 units   return   48 units
                                                                                                                  = 61 units    return  66 units    +5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Winkel

Nottophammer, why then not betting only Mr. Green?

I do play the 6 ds's and sometimes .20p on zero because in uk betting shops they want £1.00 to spin the wheel and i like to have 10 spins to see how many left on the mat . Most times leave the .20p off thou as if Mr Green dont come in the 1st 10 spins thats £2.00 wasted,if green comes once still .80p better off
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Tamino

I would  find it beneath my dignity to  enter a casino and cover every single number. I am better off joining an old ladies knitting circle on a Thursday afternoon.




nottophammer

Tam can you think of any other way of doing what the topic asked.
Like winkel said why not just go for the green,but then theres only 1 chip not 37 at the start, i've only gone to 6 doubles as thats the max in the betting shops and lost it but once you start the bet why stop, if you've not got the nerve to play it, then thats fine.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

RouletteGhost

I saw a system  once where 30 numbers were covered. 15 numbers had 2 units 15 numbers had 1 unit
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

nottophammer

yes Rich but he asked for the whole board to be covered, you could use the double up method on your mid ds's but as said you wont want to be doubling for to long.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

okay lets have 1st 18 as 3 DS' and top 18 as 3 DS's, lets call them (1) and (2).

if you see (1) 1st 18 miss for 11 spins would you not fancy backing both hoping that (1) misses again, then restake doubling (2) and comes in giving you +1, if it didnt but say green dropped in you be up,you could relay the bet and carry on doubling (2) remember we're saying missed for 11 spins, i'd play for another 6 spins with the old foot tapping,worst case be -1 on the 1st bet,its only 1
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

psimoes

Quote from: iggiv on Oct 05, 09:16 PM 2014
link:://wizardofodds.com/gambling/ten-commandments/


7.Thou shalt not hedge thy bets

Hedge bets usually carry a high house edge. For example, never take insurance in blackjack and never bet the any craps or any seven in craps. Exceptions can be made for insuring life changing amounts of money.

Off-topic but now that you mention it:

Quote4. Thou shalt trust the odds, not hunches
If you want to maximize your odds then believe in mathematically proven strategies, not hunches. If hunches are so great why are there so many psychics working the Boardwalk in Atlantic City as opposed to playing?

Can anyone take this seriously?
[Math+1] beats a Math game

psimoes

If you always cover the zero while betting on say DSs, after a bad run you may need more wins than usual to brake even, because of the wages lost on "insurance".
[Math+1] beats a Math game

GLC

If we cover numbers 1 thru 35 with 1 unit and we leave number 36 and the zero uncovered.  What will the outcome be if we were to make this bet for the next 37 spins and each number hit exactly once starting with the zero and ending with #36?

On the zero you would lose 35 units which equals -35 units.
On numbers 1 thru 35 we would win 1 unit each which equals +35 units.
On number 36 you would lose 35 units which equals -35 units.
That means we net -35 units playing this bet method.

If we only bet 1 unit on 1 number for our 37 spins, what would be the outcome if every number hits exactly once in the next 37 spins?

On 35 of the numbers we would lose 1 unit which equals -35 units.
On the covered number we would win 35 units which equals +35 units.
On the uncovered zero we would lose 1 unit which equals -1 units.
That means we net -1 unit with this bet method.

I've asked this before and I ask it again.  How can we play multiple numbers knowing that the zero will have such devastating results on a hit?

I am not a math guy so there may be something wrong with my logic.  If so, can someone please point out my error?  If I'm right, how can we entertain the idea of betting more than 1 number at a time?

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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