****8 on 1****

[superman]

So after 10,209 spins you are up 153 units and 1 single loss will cost 242 units?

Where do you see the loss Danny? max bet was 27 units per dozen, JL said use 2 doz progression up to 81 units, so it went one level shy of the max and 2 bets shy of busting, the test was on the no zero spins I have.

JL, do those results look similar to your results,don't foget this was a continual set of numbers, no hit n run

EDIT, soory bud its bed time for me, I se you said 1 single loss WILL cost 242 units, thats correct

[TwoCatSam]

"I'm with Skakus...and declare this a kind of madness."

There's one to ponder!


TCS

[Johnlegend]

Where do you see the loss Danny? max bet was 27 units per dozen, JL said use 2 doz progression up to 81 units, so it went one level shy of the max and 2 bets shy of busting, the test was on the no zero spins I have.

JL, do those results look similar to your results,don't foget this was a continual set of numbers, no hit n run

EDIT, soory bud its bed time for me, I se you said 1 single loss WILL cost 242 units, that's correct

Very close Superman. I've had five 4 gaps max on BV single zero. But I'm playing short sessions. Yes 242 is what I have on the line. You had six 4 GAPS continuos testing how many times? I've found seven times six 4 gaps in a possible 2250 games live. I've never seen 7 and certainly not 8.

[Skakus]

Where do you see the loss Danny? max bet was 27 units per dozen, JL said use 2 doz progression up to 81 units, so it went one level shy of the max and 2 bets shy of busting, the test was on the no zero spins I have.

JL, do those results look similar to your results,don't foget this was a continual set of numbers, no hit n run

EDIT, soory bud its bed time for me, I se you said 1 single loss WILL cost 242 units, that's correct

Yes, I meant when one comes along it wipes you out. And when two come along it wipes you out big time. You only made 216 double dozen bets in this 10,000 spin sample and you need to win 242 units to pay for 1 progression bust. At this rate that means placing 341 bets to pay for 1 bust, or 682 bets to have one up your sleeve. That's about 31,600 spins you need to crunch through to be in a somewhat safe position.

As for the no zero wheels, don't they take a % commission on any winnings, so they're not free spinning?

[Twisteruk]

Its really not that slow, imo

I just played another session which took 33 spins and less than 2 minutes to win another Unit

Supermans results show you dont have to play HAR if you dont want to

[Johnlegend]

Yes, I meant when one comes along it wipes you out. And when two come along it wipes you out big time. You only made 216 double dozen bets in this 10,000 spin sample and you need to win 242 units to pay for 1 progression bust. At this rate that means placing 341 bets to pay for 1 bust, or 682 bets to have one up your sleeve.

As for the no zero wheels, don't they take a % commission on any winnings?

When one comes along. The points being missed Skakus. You may NEVER LOSE. Especially how I play. Think about that carefully. Everybody wants the GRAIL. When a strong contender is given to them, they're ALL EXCUSES. Now you don't have to wonder why the games safe for ALLTIME.

[Skakus]

When one comes along. The points being missed Skakus. You may NEVER LOSE. Especially how I play. Think about that carefully. Everybody wants the GRAIL. When a strong contender is given to them, they're ALL EXCUSES. Now you don't have to wonder why the games safe for ALLTIME.

Perhaps, but I'd like to see a test of at least 31,600 spins, and on a sigle zero wheel. 

[Twisteruk]

38 spins around 2 minutes 1 bet 1 win

8 Bets
8Wins
All Wins on first bet

[speed]

38 spins around 2 minutes 1 bet 1 win

8 Bets
8Wins
All Wins on first bet

This is pure luck and nothing more.
I did not see any reason why this system can beat the house edge.

[Twisteruk]

This is pure luck and nothing more.
I did not see any reason why this system can beat the house edge.

Divine Intervention ?

Hmmmm maybe. Time will tell 

[speed]

time for u, for me seconds 

[Turner]

In other words Turner you don't like winning. I would rather wait to win, than rush to lose. that's my motto. And time will show how that works. You want fast methods you have them by the truck load. But theyll never be unbreakable, not even close.

I wasnt being crass John, as you suggest. Im just giving my opinion. I really have tried to jump on the JL bandwaggon...and never been rude about it. Unfortunatly, Im starting to tire of the rhetoric. You remind me of a politician. Ive said this before.

Its about systems and roulette...not about how you will show us all in the long run, and how embarrassed we will all be when we realise how wrong we were to disbelieve you when we realise how you took over the world, and we could of all been part of it, if we had just had faith in what is so obvious layed out before our eyes.

I heard all this during the system given to us by God holding the baby Jesus in his hand,   *****FIVE*****

is *****FIVE***** now a failiure?

As an observer John, I have to take everything in, not just the system. Ive took this same rhetoric in from everything you post, and even during gods gift *****FIVE***** you start mentioning 8 on 1.
Where do we stand with all this political clap trap?

[Johnlegend]

time for u, for me seconds 

All the excuses, watch them come.

[Johnlegend]

This is pure luck and nothing more.
I did not see any reason why this system can beat the house edge.

Will you be saying pure luck if Twister wins 3000 times? House edge, you're living on flawed beliefs.

[Johnlegend]

I wasn't being crass John, as you suggest. I'm just giving my opinion. I really have tried to jump on the JL bandwaggon...and never been rude about it. Unfortunatly, I'm starting to tire of the rhetoric. You remind me of a politician. I've said this before.

Its about systems and roulette...not about how you will show us all in the long run, and how embarrassed we will all be when we realise how wrong we were to disbelieve you when we realise how you took over the world, and we could of all been part of it, if we had just had faith in what is so obvious layed out before our eyes.

I heard all this during the system given to us by God holding the baby Jesus in his hand,   *****FIVE*****

is *****FIVE***** now a failiure?

As an observer John, I have to take everything in, not just the system. I've took this same rhetoric in from everything you post, and even during gods gift *****FIVE***** you start mentioning 8 on 1.
Where do we stand with all this political clap trap?

Turner they go hand in hand. I will be playing FIVE for the rest of my life. Just as I will be playing PATTERN BREAKER. 8 on 1 is simply an addition. And it may be the best ever. Put what you think of me aside. And give yourself a chance to really see longterm winning is possible.

Because when someone makes a stir. The first thing that happens is all the people who really don't believe this games beatable make that point clear. So less time worrying about whether you like me personally. And more time really looking at what's going on here. And what you really believe might be shown to be wrong.

I know the general thinking Turner.