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****8 on 1****

Started by Johnlegend, Oct 20, 09:17 AM 2012

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Proofreaders2000

Congrats JohnLegend for Eight On One

You have to think systems Five and Eight On likened to the new releases of IPad and IPhone, they both have separate functions, but ultimately up to the user's preference.

Looking forward to your next one  :)

Skakus

I have attached 32000 single zero rng spins from my own library of results. They come from my own rng that I had professionally programmed a few years ago. It is the best and fairest rng you could hope for.

If superman or anyone is keen to try, let's see if 8 ON 1 can hold up over these results.

If it does then I can supply another 32000 spins for round two.  :thumbsup:



A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

donik7777

John you are absolutely right!!!
Thanks to you, I used your method  and got so surprising results. I'm sure your method is very strong, but I do not like huge progression for 1 unit.
I use the 10 gaps or more in sixlines. More than 100 wins and no losses. Risk 5 units.
Anyone on this forum can do as Stephen made excel programm for FIVE.
I'm tired of manually count.
Best regards.

Twisteruk

Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 21, 09:28 PM 2012
John you are absolutely right!!!
Thanks to you, I used your method  and got so surprising results. I'm sure your method is very strong, but I do not like huge progression for 1 unit.
I use the 10 gaps or more in sixlines. More than 100 wins and no losses. Risk 5 units.
Anyone on this forum can do as Stephen made excel program for FIVE.
I'm tired of manually count.
Best regards.

Can you explain ure Method a bit more plz or do you have a thread running already ??
Its Set In Stone =)

KoolKat

Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 22, 01:12 AM 2012
Can you explain your Method a bit more plz or do you have a thread running already ??

TwisterUk Donik777 system is in the testing zone GAPS in sixlines

K

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Skakus on Oct 21, 08:45 PM 2012
I have attached 32000 single zero rng spins from my own library of results. They come from my own rng that I had professionally programmed a few years ago. It is the best and fairest rng you could hope for.

If superman or anyone is keen to try, let's see if 8 ON 1 can hold up over these results.

If it does then I can supply another 32000 spins for round two.  :thumbsup:

Hola Skakus

There is no point in arguing about test results with John.  Stef tracker shows you different results like some 8's already and i saw 11 and somebody saw 11's on BVNo but John thinks that they are not valid. He never played on BVNo but thinks that its not fair. BV regular RNG is fair in John opinion because so far he wins on it. Superman supplied 10k spins from BVNo and there were no loses but its only drop in the bucket because its only few hundred games. I saw something different on Stef tracker which i use also for testing of other stuff and i dont think there is anything wrong with it. Like all systems this thing can win for a long time especially taking into consideration that involves heavy progression and waiting for triggers but to declare it a roulette beater and threat to BV bottom line is a bit premature.  Test results are not transparent because of the usage of other methods to spin BV RNG. The only way to settle it is to play for 1u base bet both FIVE and 8 ON 1 and use 0.01u or 0.05u bet to spin RNG or move to BVNo but apparently BVNo is not fair.
Matt

Twisteruk

Well Ive not found BVNZ to be unfair, early days I accept

Anyway, latest results

This morning 4 bets 4 wins all on first bet

In Total 12 bets 12 wins all on first bet

Total +12 Units
Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

Quote from: KoolKat on Oct 22, 01:45 AM 2012
TwisterUk Donik777 system is in the testing zone GAPS in sixlines

K

Ah nice one, will have a look  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 22, 02:12 AM 2012
Well I've not found BVNZ to be unfair, early days I accept

Anyway, latest results

This morning 4 bets 4 wins all on first bet

In Total 12 bets 12 wins all on first bet

Total +12 Units

Call it lucky dozen  :D By the way how long have you been playing BVNZ?  I mean all the other stuff? Is there minimum bet still 0.01 on a regular BV because apparently it has been increased to 0.05 on NZ?
Matt

Twisteruk

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Oct 22, 02:18 AM 2012
Call it lucky dozen  :D by the way how long have you been playing BVNZ?  I mean all the other stuff? Is there minimum bet still 0.01 on a regular BV?

Yes I accept it *may* be luck. Hence why Im takin part in playin this to find out

Ive had an account at BV for around 3 years. What other stuff ? The Minimum bet is 0.05p/c
Its Set In Stone =)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 22, 02:21 AM 2012
Yes I accept it *may* be luck. Hence why I'm taking part in playing this to find out

I've had an account at BV for around 3 years. What other stuff ? The Minimum bet is 0.05p/c

Thanks. By other stuff i just meant other methods. There are some people not only John that claim that a regular and NoZero Rng on BV behave differently but in reality there is no sure answer to this question except some randomness test. :D
Matt

Twisteruk

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Oct 22, 02:28 AM 2012
Thanks. By other stuff i just meant other methods. There are some people not only John that claim that a regular and NoZero Rng on BV behave differently but in reality there is no sure answer to this question except some randomness test. :D

I cant speak for JL but ive not noticed any difference btwn BVNZ and the Zero wheel

BUT I only played a few games on the Zero wheel as I found it too expensive to move the rng so went back to the NZ wheel where its free

Its Set In Stone =)

Skakus

Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 22, 02:35 AM 2012

BUT I only played a few games on the Zero wheel as I found it too expensive to move the rng so went back to the NZ wheel where its free

Is it free? I thought there was a blanket % commission on winnings? Or are you only playing fun money?
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

superman

The 10% commision on winnings is only on the zero house edge games as far as I know, so if you win 1 euro and ens/close the game they take 0.10 cents of ya so you won 0.90 cents only that session.

Skakus I have downloaded your number file and rejigged my test bot to accept the zero BUT it just went sky high on the progression and there is a reason why, I will need to know from JL what he does in this situation

3745 - L  Prog 1 Cash 48 Peak 50 BetAgainst (dc)
3756 - L  Prog 3 Cash 42 Peak 50 BetAgainst (dc)
3768 - L  Prog 9 Cash 24 Peak 50 BetAgainst (dc)
3769 - L  Prog 27 Cash -30 Peak 50 BetAgainst (da)
3777 - L  Prog 81 Cash -192 Peak 50 BetAgainst (dc)
3787 - L  Prog 243 Cash -678 Peak 50 BetAgainst (dc)
3789 - W  Prog 729 Cash 51 Peak 50 BetAgainst (da)
3804 - W  Prog 1 Cash 52 Peak 51 BetAgainst (db)
3824 - W  Prog 1 Cash 53 Peak 52 BetAgainst (dc)

You can see the bot has triggered on dc AND da and bet on both at the same time, had it only been on da all would have been ok, not so sure about dc though, so, JL what would you do in this instance?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Twisteruk

Quote from: Skakus on Oct 22, 02:53 AM 2012

Is it free? I thought there was a blanket % commission on winnings? Or are you only playing fun money?

Yes thats correct, 10% on winnings

If/when my bank increases then it will pay to go back to the 1c bet on the Zero Wheel
Its Set In Stone =)

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