****8 on 1****

[Skakus]

Skakus everything playable is going to lose against 32,000 static results.

Absolutely not true.

In reality playing it for 1---4 games then shutting it down its another story.

Reality? Or fictional? Like I said, the jury's out on that one.

You will know I'm telling it like it is here. Because most of my progress on BV will be made with just FIVE and 8 ON 1. If 8 ON 1 doesn't deliver. I will be losing 242 points all the time.

You won't need to lose 242 points all the time, only once or twice every 20 or 30 thousand spins is enough to cook your goose with this progression.

when I've reached 3 figures that hole in the profit will be very noticeable. But I doubt it will happen very often. No ones going to sit down and play even 1000 spins.

A personal permanence of 1000 spins is not even a drop in the ocean for serious or even novice players.

[Twisteruk]

Well just had a session where I was taken to the 4th step

Wondered when it would come lol

[Johnlegend]

But all examples show

----DOZEN 2
-----04
-----03
-----04
-----02
-----04-----BET TRIGGER

Your reply to one of my questions was

An example of a bet

Now you say
 
I am waiting for the dozen that already has 2 4 gaps to again count to 4 then bet against it, is this wrong? ? should I be counting to 3 only? if so all tests will need re-running, let me know please.
 
For some reason the bot runs out of memory looks like 32000 lines of a file is a bit too much, maybe 30000 numbers in your next file please Skakus. But before we do that I need JL to clarify the above question.
 
isn't this the same as what JL is doing, it may be early for me but it looks the same, 2 4 gaps then bet, getting confused now, need clarification again from JL, the goal posts are moving again, or is it just me?

No Superman, what you are doing is waiting for it to count to 3 then you bet against it becoming another 4 GAP as in the example below shown in numbers.

12--33--22--25--01--36--27--13--07--24--14--35------NOW WE BET AGAINST THE NEXT SPIN BEING DOZEN 1 to break the run of 4 GAPS.

So you bet after dozen one has slept for three spins Superman.

[TwoCatSam]

OK, let's take the 32,000 and play them--however you wish--until you get your first win.  Mark the number you left off with and come back tomorrow.  What has changed?  Why would there be any difference in coming back and continuing on?  There is not.

And that's the trouble with the wheel---there is no difference if you play live at a B&M and win one and leave or win one and stay.  The next number spun is always a new number in a new universe. 

I just posted a two-hour tutorial video on the G.U.T on Victor's new forum, Bet Selection cc.  I address the notion of hit and run as I began playing and never got back to even, let alone make a profit.  What does the "hit and run" gang do in such a case?  This is real-time at Dublin with my own real fifty-cent pieces, not some theory or bloviation.

We all know events group together like birds on a wire.  Last evening I had a terrible group of losing numbers.  With every system you play, they will come.  When they come to Jl--and they will--the flocking will create so many droppings the world will look level.  My loss per spin last night was around six to nine Euros.  That can be made up in a few spins.  When you lose a 1 3 9 27 81, you will need 121 perfect games to get even.  When those losers flock, that number can grow to several hundred quickly.

Just my opinion.  And if John deletes it, I'll start a new thread with it.

Sam

[Johnlegend]

Well just had a session where I was taken to the 4th step

Wondered when it would come LoL

I knew too Twister, so what are your current totals. I was also taken to the fourth step today LIVE. But again the best it could show me was 6 consecutive 4 gaps. Below is the result of one of my games live. This is also a very telling sign that you will NOT lose the game.

DOZEN 1
04
02
03
04
01
01
03
03
02
01
01
03
03
02
04-----BET TRIGGER
07-----WIN BET 1

You see this was a game while DOZEN 1 was red hot. But that run can't last too long. And as 3 GAPS outnumbered 4 Gaps. A run beyond 4 was certain to come soon. You learn to read these things after years of seeing the same behaviour.

[Johnlegend]

OK, let's take the 32,000 and play them--however you wish--until you get your first win.  Mark the number you left off with and come back tomorrow.  What has changed?  Why would there be any difference in coming back and continuing on?  There is not.

And that's the trouble with the wheel---there is no difference if you play live at a B&M and win one and leave or win one and stay.  The next number spun is always a new number in a new universe. 

I just posted a two-hour tutorial video on the G.U.T on Victor's new forum, Bet Selection cc.  I address the notion of hit and run as I began playing and never got back to even, let alone make a profit.  What does the "hit and run" gang do in such a case?  This is real-time at Dublin with my own real fifty-cent pieces, not some theory or bloviation.

We all know events group together like birds on a wire.  Last evening I had a terrible group of losing numbers.  With every system you play, they will come.  When they come to Jl--and they will--the flocking will create so many droppings the world will look level.  My loss per spin last night was around six to nine Euros.  That can be made up in a few spins.  When you lose a 1 3 9 27 81, you will need 121 perfect games to get even.  When those losers flock, that number can grow to several hundred quickly.

Just my opinion.  And if John deletes it, I'll start a new thread with it.

Sam

Sam I'm not deleting anything. Here's how it stands. The only thing that makes people sit up and take notice these days is large sums of cash. When theres 10k sitting in Supermans BV account. Maybe a few more sceptics will begin to understand, I know what I'm talking about.

[Twisteruk]

My current total is the same as yesterday plus 1

Ive been busy today and only played 1 game

Will be back on it laters 

[superman]

Ok to clarify

04-----BET TRIGGER
07-----WIN BET 1

at what point did you start betting the opposing 2 dozens, I know its the 07 but what was it when you started betting, 03 or 04

[Twisteruk]

Current Update

32 Games Played

32 Games Won

+32pts

[atlantis]

Ok to clarify

04-----BET TRIGGER
07-----WIN BET 1

at what point did you start betting the opposing 2 dozens, I know its the 07 but what was it when you started betting, 03 or 04

Hi Superman,
The first step bet of 1-1 on the dozens would be after the 03 occurred (3 misses) and you are betting that the dozen will not hit on the fourth either.. and it won since the record shows it continued to miss until the 7th. spin.
If it HAD of hit on the 4th then you would have got:

04 --- BET TRIGGER
04 --- LOST step 1

so you wait for an 03 in the same dozen before ascending to step 2 level of 3-3
e.g.:

04 --- BET TRIGGER
04 --- LOST Step 1 at 1-1 units
03 --- BET TRIGGER to bet against 04 occurring with Step 2 at 3-3 units

Hope this explains,

A.

[superman]

Hope this explains

Cheers fella 

[TwoCatSam]

Jl

Well, Bro, if you do what you say you can do, you should win the Nobel Prize.

Skeptics have their place, you know!

Sam

[superman]

Ok after some clarification the test bot has been changed ..... a lot, it appears I was running 2 triggers, the same as TwisterUK is playing, so all the previous results are to be compared with Twisters method of play, all the busts too lol

I have just rerun the 10360 real money BVNZ spins and both spin files from Skakus, all attached, of course waiting for the extra trigger has meant a lot less bets were placed, but progression was never breached, came to the max once on Skakus 320001.txt and that's a bad as it got.

[TwoCatSam]

So, Superman, are you saying that IF we had a set of hard-and-fast, etched in stone and copied on Holy Parchment rules, this thing would work?

Thank you for you bot and all your hard work on this idea.

Sam

[Twisteruk]

Ok after some clarification the test bot has been changed ..... a lot, it appears I was running 2 triggers, the same as TwisterUK is playing, so all the previous results are to be compared with Twisters method of play, all the busts too LoL

I have just rerun the 10360 real money BVNZ spins and both spin files from Skakus, all attached, of course waiting for the extra trigger has meant a lot less bets were placed, but progression was never breached, came to the max once on Skakus 320001.txt and that's a bad as it got.

Thats Awesome to read that you finally got the rules nailed superman

Maybe someone can bot it now