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Started by Johnlegend, Oct 20, 09:17 AM 2012

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Twisteruk

Update:

Games played 288

Games Won 288

+288pts
Its Set In Stone =)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 02, 02:13 PM 2012
Update:

Games played 288

Games Won 288

+288pts
Nice work Twister. At your pace you will overtake me in the next week. You are already only 137 behind me. Who can get to 500 wins first? Keep going Bud.

Twisteruk

lol BVNZ is super fast mate  :twisted:

Where you playin, I forget ?
Its Set In Stone =)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 02, 05:09 PM 2012
LoL BVNZ is super fast mate  :twisted:

Where you playing, I forget ?
Paddy Power, Betfred and BV single zero. I've struggled to come to terms with BV single zero and sacrificing profit to move the wheel. But I now have the TOTAL measure of that format. And the only way is up from here. Yes BVNZ is the place to get there fast. Still a little doubtful about it. If you smash the 500 barrier. I will have a go next year when I open my own account. Once I have fufilled the limitations of the 5000 point challenge. Superman will start to like me. He should know I'm serious because I also play the fun mode at BV. And doing it my way. I get my results. Hardly played it and made over 300 euro on it. So its all coming next year.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Nov 02, 10:02 AM 2012
Matt, yes I had two 7s on columns. But that was an experiment. The method is to be played as it was proofed ON DOZENS ONLY people. And on dozens I now stand at 425/0

Here's the thing Matt. Twister despite all the negative points made about this method. Has hit the ground running with it. And is showing you all. That knowing something can lose and meeting that loss in sporadic play are different things. Now today out of the blue, PILOT returns to tell you all what patience and postive mental attitude can achieve. 71500 made just playing PB. We can talk till the end Matt. Actions speak louder than words. People like Chauncy47, Kevint3, Twister and now Pilot are putting the work in. And they will reap the rewards.

So what about Skakus spins?  3 loses in 560 games? Can you comment on that?  When i looked at BVNZ and Skakus spins they both produced about 100+ games on average and there were 2 9 gaps that happened within 30 games?
Matt

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 03, 03:19 AM 2012
So what about Skakus spins?  3 loses in 560 games? Can you comment on that?  When i looked at BVNZ and Skakus spins they both produced about 100+ games on average and there were 2 9 gaps that happened within 30 games?
Matt you keep dwelling too much on that. Ask yourself this. How come Twister and me aren't even seeing SIX 4 GAPS in H.A.R style play? I keep telling you this simple fact. In order to lose playing as I do. I have to land DEAD ON TOP of that losing game. And that is VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY unlikely. In Any set of results you can find a loss Matt. But that is a STATIC set of results where you are TRAVELLING TOWARDS THAT LOSS. I'm never travelling towards anything. This is what you have to take onboard.

Twister plays more games than I do and he is pushing 300 wins straight. You have to try to realize why we are doing this and why you probably would NEVER EVER be able to find a string of three or four hundred wins in a row in ANY SAMPLE you could bring to the table Matt. I will say this again, knowing something CAN LOSE, and meeting THAT LOSS in H.A.R play are two very different things. Do you not think I would like to sit there all day and win 1000s in one day?. Of course I would Matt. But you can't do it like that. And the more and more people that realize. H.A.R is an absolute way to beat this game. The more people that will be longterm winners.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Nov 03, 05:37 AM 2012
Matt you keep dwelling too much on that. Ask yourself this. How come Twister and me aren't even seeing SIX 4 GAPS in H.A.R style play? I keep telling you this simple fact. In order to lose playing as I do. I have to land DEAD ON TOP of that losing game. And that is VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY unlikely. In Any set of results you can find a loss Matt. But that is a STATIC set of results where you are TRAVELLING TOWARDS THAT LOSS. I'm never travelling towards anything. This is what you have to take onboard.

Twister plays more games than I do and he is pushing 300 wins straight. You have to try to realize why we are doing this and why you probably would NEVER EVER be able to find a string of three or four hundred wins in a row in ANY SAMPLE you could bring to the table Matt. I will say this again, knowing something CAN LOSE, and meeting THAT LOSS in H.A.R play are two very different things. Do you not think I would like to sit there all day and win 1000s in one day?. Of course I would Matt. But you can't do it like that. And the more and more people that realize. H.A.R is an absolute way to beat this game. The more people that will be longterm winners.

Still you did not answer directly my question about Superman test of Skakus sets of spins. You are very selective in your answers John and choose to ignore some questions. Your run of 400+ and Twister's 300 wins is quite normal for a method that risks 240 units. As normal as around 650/3 breakdown i see in BVNZ and Skakus spins. You never saw 6 4 gaps in your play but 2 9's happened there. You just make wrong conclusions  from your stats like predicting strike rate.
And its always HAR factor to fall back on. Twister played 300 games in few days.  Is it still HAR?
Is the pressing of auto spin button on RX to produce each time 100 random spins not HAR?  You can wait few minutes  ;D   You never liked any RNG and now you play on it so you could spend some time checking your method against other RNG spins. And John learn some statistics. I know that you dont see any point in doing that but it will teach you other take on your HAR philosophy.
And dont take it personally John that some have problem with other people reporting success playing your methods. By the same token we heard also few opposite stories.
We just keep going in circles here due to your HAR fallacy that basically makes it impossible for you to accept other results than yours as valid. 
Matt

Twisteruk

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 03, 07:01 AM 2012
Still you did not answer directly my question about Superman test of Skakus sets of spins. You are very selective in your answers John and choose to ignore some questions. Your run of 400+ and Twister's 300 wins is quite normal for a method that risks 240 units. As normal as around 650/3 breakdown i see in BVNZ and Skakus spins. You never saw 6 4 gaps in your play but 2 9's happened there. You just make wrong conclusions  from your stats like predicting strike rate.
And its always HAR factor to fall back on. Twister played 300 games in few days.  Is it still HAR?
Is the pressing of auto spin button on RX to produce each time 100 random spins not HAR?  You can wait few minutes  ;D   You never liked any RNG and now you play on it so you could spend some time checking your method against other RNG spins. And John learn some statistics. I know that you don't see any point in doing that but it will teach you other take on your HAR philosophy.
And don't take it personally John that some have problem with other people reporting success playing your methods. By the same token we heard also few opposite stories.
We just keep going in circles here due to your HAR fallacy that basically makes it impossible for you to accept other results than yours as valid.

Yes. Because I log out and back in. A new Checksum is then generated and new numbers begin.

Why ?

Its Set In Stone =)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 03, 09:42 AM 2012
Yes. Because I log out and back in. A new Checksum is then generated and new numbers begin.

Why ?

Because to me hitting auto spin on RX or other RNG generator to generate next set of spins is as good HAR approach as your logging in and out on BV and playing few games. But John for some reasons and apparently you think otherwise.
Matt

Twisteruk

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 03, 09:57 AM 2012
Because to me hitting auto spin on RX or other RNG generator to generate next set of spins is as good HAR approach as your logging in and out on BV and playing few games. But John for some reasons and apparently you think otherwise.


BV generates a new Checksum. The numbers are predetermind.

If I was in Vegas I would just walk Wheel to Wheel

Its Set In Stone =)

TwoCatSam

Matt

I appreciate you point of view and questions should be raised about any system.  I am spending much of my off time thinking and studying this idea of hit and run.  I'm not saying it works or doesn't, but there is a logic behind it.

My wife and I once ran into a fellow we knew three different consecutive days in three different restaurants.  For that to happen, we had to arrive at the first restaurant at the right time and day.  One day off and we would have missed him.

Yes, we're retired, use lots of coupons and eat out a lot!!

Sam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Twisteruk

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 03, 10:21 AM 2012
Matt

I appreciate you point of view and questions should be raised about any system.  I am spending much of my off time thinking and studying this idea of hit and run.  I'm not saying it works or doesn't, but there is a logic behind it.

My wife and I once ran into a fellow we knew three different consecutive days in three different restaurants.  For that to happen, we had to arrive at the first restaurant at the right time and day.  One day off and we would have missed him.

Yes, we're retired, use lots of coupons and eat out a lot!!

Sam

My Cousins are always gettin those Coupons lol

They either eat at a Denny's or at the Buffet in the Casino  :thumbsup:

Its Set In Stone =)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 03, 10:18 AM 2012

BV generates a new Checksum. The numbers are predetermind.

If I was in Vegas I would just walk Wheel to Wheel

So generating x amount of spins on any RNG generator once at a time its not a valid HAR approach?
Matt

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 03, 10:21 AM 2012
Matt

I appreciate you point of view and questions should be raised about any system.  I am spending much of my off time thinking and studying this idea of hit and run.  I'm not saying it works or doesn't, but there is a logic behind it.

My wife and I once ran into a fellow we knew three different consecutive days in three different restaurants.  For that to happen, we had to arrive at the first restaurant at the right time and day.  One day off and we would have missed him.

Yes, we're retired, use lots of coupons and eat out a lot!!

Sam

Im as tireless in fighting this HAR fallacy as you in testing the systems here Sam  ;D   But this is so damn hard. Finding H.G seems to be a piece of cake compared to this.
Matt

TwoCatSam

Matt

I know a man who takes six numbers in a hat, so to speak.  He draws them out and does not replace them.  Say he has 5 1 2 4 3 6..no repeaters.  He plays those six numbers against the columns and dozens.  To lose, the wheel would have to produce that run.  He says he wins daily.

Any of us could tell you the odds of those six coming up, but who could say exactly when in the day the wheel will hit that first number, 5?  Then again, the odds of 5 coming up on the next spin are always the same.

So I agree with you and still it puzzles me!!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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