Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[JahVinci]

1. I play against unique Dozens (1-2-3, 3-2-1), Columns (A-B-C, C-B-A). I don't bet every spin. Makes no sense for me.
2. European wheel
3. Airball roulette
4. Real casino
5. Martingale:  50-50, 200-200, 700-700
6. Safe bet zero: 5, 20, 50
7. Average session time: 1.5-2 hours

[denzie]

And when you jump in ?  1-2-3 comes...now bet against it ?

3-2-2 comes. ..now bet against it ..etc


personally I play this only if I see for example 2-1-1 -2-1-1 .... now I start.

[JahVinci]

Maybe I explained wrong, but I play only 1-2-3, 3-2-1 and A-B-C, C-B-A. I don't like repeaters at all. I saw 1-2-2 and similar combinations up to 3-4 times in a row (1-2-2-1-2-2-1-2-2-1-2-2, etc. ). The only time I go against repeaters it's when column or dozen hits 5 times in a row (so far no losses yet).

On my roulette you can see trends. So I go against this trends. Let's say that last 2-3 mini games it hits dozens 1 and 2 only so betting against sequence 1-2-3 in this case kinda suicide imo. Coz it's more likely to happen. I prefer to bet 3-2-1 in this case. Same when dozen 3 and 2 dominate, I prefer bet 1-2-3, not 3-2-1. Similar idea for columns.

[RouletteGhost]

 

[RouletteGhost]

I think i understand. You have explained it to me once before

Can you give an example of where you would bet against 123 occuring and 321?

Trigger example

[RouletteGhost]

In other words: give me an example where you would say ok lets bet against 123 now

Much appreciated.

The idea that triggers do not mean anything i think is a farce, IF the trigger is rare.....

[JahVinci]

In other words: give me an example where you would say ok lets bet against 123 now

Much appreciated.

The idea that triggers do not mean anything i think is a farce, IF the trigger is rare.....

here is part from my session yesterday  where I simply avoided 1-2-3:

9 32 30 | 12 13 22 | 8 5 13 | 14 23 1 | 16 12 35 | 10 7 11 | 1 24 27 | 24 9 18 | 20 18 16 | 17 29 7 | 27 18 29 | etc.

So normally I just come to casino write down 20 numbers that hit before (it shows on the screen) divide mini games of 3, check dozens and columns. So in the example I gave before just check columns that hit before 1-2-3 combination hits (highlighted with red).

Writing the above numbers as dozens:

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.

There are other factors should be taken into account - hot  numbers, cold numbers, part of the wheel that hits the most, less.

I tried it not only here in my casino in S.Korea. I played in Macau as well - Holidays Inn Hotel casino, Hard Rock Hotel Casino. 4 days 2 hour sessions in the morning. Covered all my and gf costs for trip - 3000$ total for both of us.

I can call it luck once or twice, but I am up a lot.

It is a great system. Just need to learn when to jump in. See that conditions that favor you, because if you will play like machine against machine you will have no chances.   
   

[Nick-the-Greek]

All makes sense JV - well done.

I still dabble with this strategy (and KTF) online a few times a week when I have the time and it has paid well but my stakes are no where near as high as yours - I select a different unique each time (123, 132, 231, 213, 312, 321) with 1 - 3 - 9 progression. Session ends when I've selected all six uniques   - usually win first or second spin and has only bust a few times using casino money so bank is up overall.

Thanks for sharing.

Nick

[JahVinci]

Nick,

I tried to use other unique combinations as well, but didn't work well for me and couldn't figure out "proper betting time" as I did for 1-2-3, 3-2-1.



 

[RouletteGhost]

here is part from my session yesterday  where I simply avoided 1-2-3:

9 32 30 | 12 13 22 | 8 5 13 | 14 23 1 | 16 12 35 | 10 7 11 | 1 24 27 | 24 9 18 | 20 18 16 | 17 29 7 | 27 18 29 | etc.

So normally I just come to casino write down 20 numbers that hit before (it shows on the screen) divide mini games of 3, check dozens and columns. So in the example I gave before just check columns that hit before 1-2-3 combination hits (highlighted with red).

Writing the above numbers as dozens:

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.

There are other factors should be taken into account - hot  numbers, cold numbers, part of the wheel that hits the most, less.

I tried it not only here in my casino in S.Korea. I played in Macau as well - Holidays Inn Hotel casino, Hard Rock Hotel Casino. 4 days 2 hour sessions in the morning. Covered all my and gf costs for trip - 3000$ total for both of us.

I can call it luck once or twice, but I am up a lot.

It is a great system. Just need to learn when to jump in. See that conditions that favor you, because if you will play like machine against machine you will have no chances.   

thanks jahvinci

[SimonZed1]

here is part from my session yesterday  where I simply avoided 1-2-3:

9 32 30 | 12 13 22 | 8 5 13 | 14 23 1 | 16 12 35 | 10 7 11 | 1 24 27 | 24 9 18 | 20 18 16 | 17 29 7 | 27 18 29 | etc.

So normally I just come to casino write down 20 numbers that hit before (it shows on the screen) divide mini games of 3, check dozens and columns. So in the example I gave before just check columns that hit before 1-2-3 combination hits (highlighted with red).

Writing the above numbers as dozens:

1 3 3 | 1 2 2 | 1 1 2 | 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 | 1 1 1 | 1 2 3 | 2 1 2 | 2 2 2 | 2 3 1 | 3 2 3 | etc.

So just look at it. Starting from first 1 3 3 mini game it switches to dozens 1 and 2. Why would you even try to bet in this case against sequence 1-2-3 to happen? Coz as for me it is most likely that 1-2-3 will happen there and boom! 1-2-3 happened. I was betting against 3-2-1 during that trend - won all. After that you can see that trend switched to dozens 2, 3 and was up for like next 12 spins. I was betting there against 1-2-3 - won all as well. I play the same way with columns. I don't bet every spin. I wait for the most favorable conditions. I think it's better to miss chance to win than lose.

There are other factors should be taken into account - hot  numbers, cold numbers, part of the wheel that hits the most, less.

I tried it not only here in my casino in S.Korea. I played in Macau as well - Holidays Inn Hotel casino, Hard Rock Hotel Casino. 4 days 2 hour sessions in the morning. Covered all my and gf costs for trip - 3000$ total for both of us.

I can call it luck once or twice, but I am up a lot.

It is a great system. Just need to learn when to jump in. See that conditions that favor you, because if you will play like machine against machine you will have no chances.   

Very interesting!! So grassroots just switched from a System to a Method!!

Simon.

[JahVinci]

Very interesting!! So grassroots just switched from a System to a Method!!

Simon.

I guess so. Because from what I saw for the last 4 months I play it if you will play every spin and mechanically, just no chances. We are not obliged to bet every spin. So why not use it in our favor. It's our advantage over house edge.

[RouletteGhost]

Credit goes to ATI:


, I've check the same thing on 100k live spins.
These are the stats for the 123 dozen pattern.

123 - 3397 times
123 1 - 1041 times
123 12 - 339 times
123 123 - 126 times
123 123 1 - 43 times
123 123 12 - 16 times
123 123 123 - 8 times
123 123 123 1 - 2 times
123 123 123 12 - 2 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

[SimonZed1]

I guess so. Because from what I saw for the last 4 months I play it if you will play every spin and mechanically, just no chances. We are not obliged to bet every spin. So why not use it in our favor. It's our advantage over house edge.

I have won a bit with Grassroots without ever busting. But it actually is mechanical. I really like your idea and will test it this weekend.

When you say that you also take in consideration hot, cold numbers and wheel sectors, what exactly are you looking for?

Thanks!!

Simon.

[RouletteGhost]

jahvinci is doing well