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Online Casinos Question

Started by Andre Chass, Mar 07, 08:44 PM 2018

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Andre Chass

Well, I asked a friend who bets on football (soccer) games. He told me that he makes withdrawals of 15k, 25k from the same site I bet without any problems.

But I want Steve's opinion.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Roulettebeater

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

jekhb76

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 01:39 PM 2018
Didn't you ask him what system was he playing ?
nope only that it wasn't the First Time for him that he got banned in a bm casino.

Andre Chass

Does anyone here play at DublinBet or Betboo?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

jekhb76


Andre Chass

Quote from: sentinel3 on Mar 09, 02:30 AM 2018
I personally would never hold several thousand in any one account Andre.

I dont know where you live in the world and how many online casinos you are limited to. But here in the UK we are spoilt for choice. I have 11 accounts. And dont hold more than â,¬300 in any of them. And I ROTATE PLAY. The WORST THING you can do is keep banging the same couple of casinos for several hundred a day.

You will eventually come to their attention and be stopped. I have a friend who put â,¬1000 in an account. And built it up to â,¬8000 plus over a 6 month period. When he went to withdraw it. They refused and froze his account.

What I do is every 50 to 100 I win. I WITHDRAW IT. One of my accounts for example. Over the last year I have taken nearly 2k from one of them. And still have only 300 sitting there. Should they stop me at some point. And  be nasty and steal MY MONEY. Then they only get 3 to 400 max. But before that I will have taken thousands of of them. Thats how you need to play it Andre.

They are poor losers who think like the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. Roulette is unbeatable they THINK. They believe nobody using a mechanical system comes out on top in the end.

Only they dont realize a system like PB has them beaten at LEAST in a mans lifetime. And overall the moneys only going ONE WAY.

Another thing I purposely do on some accounts Andre is LOSE some money on purpose. So they see you going backwards once in a while. That gives them the feeling eventually they will get it all.

Its only once youve won so much their greedy brains cotton on. That theyre NEVER getting it back. You will be dealt with. Its amusing to me. And as they start to shut me down in the future, I will report it on here. And show you.

They all have different levels of tolerance. Some wont even let you win a grand. Some will let you win several thousand. Eventually i will have to play more real walk in casinos as my legend grows over the next 5 to 10 years.

But ive got over 30 online casinos to be banned from first lol...

Sentinel3

I really don't know what to do.

I want to increase my bets to get a profit of $500.00 a day. But for this I will have to make a deposit of a large amount of money.

As I said before I want to make 100k until the end of the year. I have money to bet on and achieve my goal. But I'm afraid they'll stop me.

Where I live there are no b&m casinos. I would have to travel to bet.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

holymoly

Agree with previous poster.
Don't leave too much money in your account
Spread it around, different casinos
Casinos can close your account at any time
They don't have to give you a reason..




Andre Chass

I've had some answers:

They can, but they're far more likely to do the opposite - give you reasons to keep playing. As other people have said, as long as they have no reason to think you're cheating or counting cards, they know that over the long run, they make money off of you. So the longer you play, the more likely you are to give winnings back. This is a big part of the reason casinos give comps (like free hotel rooms) to winners.
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They can but typically they won't.
There are three possibilities. Firstly, you are being lucky, in which case you leaving is the last thing they want. They want you to stay at the table until your luck changes. Secondly, you could be cheating, in which case they want to gather evidence that they can use against you to get their money back. Thirdly, you are card counting. This is not cheating, you are just playing the game well. In this case they will use pressure tactics to try and make you play a different game. A big part of card counting is persuading the casino that you are lucky not a card counter. Most counters will expect to leave the casino after doing something that strongly suggests they are counting (normally splitting a good pair).
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

jekhb76

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 09, 07:38 PM 2018
Sentinel3

I really don't know what to do.

I want to increase my bets to get a profit of $500.00 a day. But for this I will have to make a deposit of a large amount of money.

As I said before I want to make 100k until the end of the year. I have money to bet on and achieve my goal. But I'm afraid they'll stop me.

Where I live there are no b&m casinos. I would have to travel to bet.
Either way, if you are goin' to win that kind of money everyday, even a bm casino would not be happy with you and they Will try to stop you also.

ayk

Had a really strange experience yesterday on speed roulette table. I was tracking the spins and noticed that whenever #25 hit the history in statistics show #35. After 3rd time I asked in chat if that is "normal". Next hit of #25 was correctly shown in history. Unfortunately I have no video proof, and also I'm not sure if it was the fault of 3 coffees I had before.

I mean, manipulating past spins... Wtf... Someone noticed such behaviour too?

Roulettebeater

Quote from: ayk on Mar 10, 04:34 AM 2018
Had a really strange experience yesterday on speed roulette table. I was tracking the spins and noticed that whenever #25 hit the history in statistics show #35. After 3rd time I asked in chat if that is "normal". Next hit of #25 was correctly shown in history. Unfortunately I have no video proof, and also I'm not sure if it was the fault of 3 coffees I had before.

I mean, manipulating past spins... Wtf... Someone noticed such behaviour too?

One big reason I don't play speed roulette cauz the camera doesn't show the entire path of the ball when it's spun...
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Andre Chass

About being banned. I've researched some websites and it seems to be a myth.

Steve advice:

"If you are highly organized with a lot of different accounts, each with verified ID. Just milk the casino constantly until you get banned, then start a new account with a different name (you can pay others commission for using their account). There's not much casinos can do to stop you. There would be very little work to start play, so it's not like AP where you actually need to work. So it would be much easier to flip between accounts and continue - and its not like they can change the conditions on you to make you lose."


"...then just play and win, take money out until they stop you. Then just create a new account and repeat."
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it's an urban legend.

My friend bet sports. He withdraw 15k, 25k and never had any problem.
I've never had problems making withdraws. (More than 20k)


There are thousands of players who enter the casinos every day. When I'm at an online casino I see players betting 40k, 50k on a single bet. $100 is peanuts to casino owners.

link:s://:.google.com/amp/s/:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/amp/#ampshare=link:s://:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/


I pm Steve about what he thinks about it. Steve is an experienced player playing with larger bankroll.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Steve

Banning and payout with online casinos is far from urban myth. It happens all the time. Many of my players have been banned and refused payouts. William hill never refused payouts but instead they just restricted players from playing live roulette.

Keep this in mind:

1. With something like SPORTS BETTING, the casino doesn't care who wins or loses money. They are just the middleman. You can win billions and it wouldn't matter to them because it's not their money. It's money from other punters. But of course if you wagered huge amounts, then the payouts change to ensure the casino never loses. The payouts for things like sports depend on what OTHER players are betting.

2. With roulette, it's very different because you are playing against the casino, not other players. So if you consistently win, then certainly they wont tolerate you. They may ban you outright, refuse payouts, or just restrict you from playing certain games.

3. If you were winning consistently, they will review your account to determine HOW you won. If you won with slots, or RNG roulette, they are unlikely to do anything and will assume it's just luck.... unless you were winning too much, in which case they will take action one way or another. It is their right to refuse service. If you won with LIVE dealer roulette, the casino will be MUCH quicker to take action than if you won with RNG roulette. That's because there is no known way to beat RNG roulette consistently. But to prevent lucky large wins, some casinos even prevent progression betting in their terms of service.
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Steve

The bottom line is very few professional players waste time with online casinos. You can do well with them, with the right approach. But real casinos are a much better option for many reasons. I generally consider online casinos a waste of time. You could spend days to destroy a wheel and win a fortune, then be refused payout even if you followed their terms of service. And there's not much you can do.
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Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
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Andre Chass

Steve, where I live doesn't have real casinos.

What's your suggestion  to win constantly and big?

Change accounts? Open multiple accounts?

You said it before. Why did you change your advice?

Steve earlier post:

"If you are highly organized with a lot of different accounts, each with verified ID. Just milk the casino constantly until you get banned, then start a new account with a different name (you can pay others commission for using their account). There's not much casinos can do to stop you. There would be very little work to start play, so it's not like AP where you actually need to work. So it would be much easier to flip between accounts and continue - and its not like they can change the conditions on you to make you lose."


"...then just play and win, take money out until they stop you. Then just create a new account and repeat."
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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