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Row Your Boat system

Started by keel44, May 23, 11:03 AM 2012

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keel44

Hello to all.  I am sure some variations have been done before, but I am really curious as to how this will turn out.  I would like to propose this system based on the following theory:

MAIN THEORY

When dealing with the even chance bets, we know that flat betting won't work.  We are covering less than half of the numbers and you only get paid 1 to 1.  The fact is flat betting does work -- sometimes. 

If you take 100 nonzero spins, it would be quite rare for there to be exactly 50 reds and 50 blacks.  One of the colors would be higher than the other - almost every single time.  So, if you were to bet exclusively on the color that finished higher, you would profit flat betting. 

Of course, you don't know which of the 2 colors would finish higher.  You would just guess.  And you would be right about half the time.  And you would be wrong about half the time.  So still again, flat betting wouldn't work.  This may seem very obvious, but please bare with me.

What would need to happen is for you to profit more on the times you guessed the correct color, and to lose less on the times you guessed the wrong color for the 100 spins.  But you don't know if you have guessed right or wrong until almost the very end of the session.  So we need a way to identify, while we are playing, if we are on the winning color or the losing color for your session.  That way we can lower our bets if we are on a losing stretch, or we can raise our bets if we are on a winning stretch. 


I have developed this master plan:


You take the win/loss results of the previous 5 bets and you will determine your next bet amount

0 wins 5 losses = bet 1 unit
1 win 4 losses = bet 1 unit
2 wins 3 losses = bet 2 units
3 wins 2 losses = bet 2 units
4 wins 1 loss = bet 3 units
5 wins 0 losses = bet 3 units

** You do NOT wait for 5 more results -- you bet every spin**

When you are on a losing trend, you lose less.  When you are on a winning trend, you win more.  If there is no real trend, it is a wash.

Keep in mind, it is a win/loss trend we are talking about.  So any bet selection for any even chance at any time will work.  I say just choose a color.  It makes no difference.  That means zeros are a loss.


Wrap-up:

Remember my main idea.  If you just guess a color for a fixed amount of time for a typical session, you could guess correctly and win flat betting.  You could also guess wrong and lose flat betting.  If you use my strategy, you should win MORE on winning sessions and lose LESS on losing sessions. This will result in a profit.  Decide your own bankroll.  I say have a 40 unit bankroll. 
This is a bit of a grinder.






Please ask questions

StackBundles

ok so what about using this


0 wins 5 losses = bet 1 unit[/size]1 win 4 losses = bet 1 unit2 wins 3 losses = bet 2 units3 wins 2 losses = bet 2 units4 wins 1 loss = bet 3 units5 wins 0 losses = bet 3 units


but betting opposite time before last?

StackBundles

sorry i ment time before last then only doubles are our problem

keel44

Remember this is a WIN/LOSS results chart.  You can use whatever bet selection you like just make sure you note W/L.

keel44

If somebody wants to give me string of numbers of say 25 spins.  I can show the operation of my system in action. 

It really is a breeze.  Just make sure you understand the theory.

StackBundles


40 spins for you

RBRBR
BRBRB
BRRBB
RRBBR
RRRRR
RBBBR
RBRBR
RRBBR


atlantis

Quick 100 spin session:
Result = +1 (there were 3 zeros)
Highest bank = +11 (very good)
Cheers for interesting Ec approach!

Yes - kept a w/l register always showing last five outcomes and bet accordingly. Nice when the 3pt bets win :)
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

TwoCatSam

So let me get this perfectly straight..........

You are Constantly looking back five spins to see what happened?

I do not understand the vertical columns. 

0 wins 5 losses = bet 1 unit
1 win 4 losses = bet 1 unit
2 wins 3 losses = bet 2 units
3 wins 2 losses = bet 2 units
4 wins 1 loss = bet 3 units
5 wins 0 losses = bet 3 units

Do you first pick a color and stick with it?  Say red......

I have  R R R R R in my last five.  So I bet R at 3u and I get black
I have R R R R B in my last five...still 3uI have R R R B B in my last five...now I bet 2u on red??

Is the blue part correct?


Sam

This will not post corectly
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

It did not ROCK my boat.... ;D
Matt

atlantis

Second test 100 spins;
Result = -33.5
Highest bank = +16 (very good)
I guess the idea/lesson is to stop when you're in front by a few units. Take the profit and go.
I was betting R each time but B kept spoiling things during the endgame up to 100 spins. :)
What's your advice, keel?
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

keel44

Quote from: StackBundles on May 23, 11:58 AM 2012
40 spins for you

RBRBR
BRBRB
BRRBB
RRBBR
RRRRR
RBBBR
RBRBR
RRBBR

Let me write them vertically and I will show betting on red only.  I will keep a running total

R (no bets here first 5)
B
R
B
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2
B - (2 R / 3 B) bet 2  L(-2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(0)
B - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  L(-2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(0)
B - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  L(-2)
B - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  L(-4)
R - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  W(-2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(0)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(+2)
B - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  L(0)
B - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  L(-2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(0)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(+2)
B - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  L(0)
B - (3 B / 2 R) bet 2  L(-2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(0)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(+2)
R - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  W(+4)
R - (4 R / 1 B) bet 3  W(+6)
R - (5 R / 0 B) bet 3  W(+9)
R - (5 R / 0 B) bet 3  W(+12)
R - (5 R / 0 B) bet 3  W(+15)
B - (4 R / 1 B) bet 3  L(+12)
B - (3 R / 2 B) bet 2  L(+9)
B - (2 R / 3 B) bet 2  L(+7)
R - (2 R / 3 B) END  W(+9)

Total Results 25 --- 14 Wins/11 Losses +9(red only)

(black only) -- 11 Wins/14 Losses -7

keel44

Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 23, 12:23 PM 2012
So let me get this perfectly straight..........

You are Constantly looking back five spins to see what happened?

I do not understand the vertical columns. 

0 wins 5 losses = bet 1 unit
1 win 4 losses = bet 1 unit
2 wins 3 losses = bet 2 units
3 wins 2 losses = bet 2 units
4 wins 1 loss = bet 3 units
5 wins 0 losses = bet 3 units

Do you first pick a color and stick with it?  Say red......

I have  R R R R R in my last five.  So I bet R at 3u and I get black
I have R R R R B in my last five...still 3uI have R R R B B in my last five...now I bet 2u on red??

Is the blue part correct?


Sam

This will not post corectly



Yes correct.  You do not have to stick with RED.  It is based on W/L.  I would stick with the same bet selection.  I hope to catch a trend.

keel44

Quote from: atlantis on May 23, 12:31 PM 2012
Second test 100 spins;
Result = -33.5
Highest bank = +16 (very good)
I guess the idea/lesson is to stop when you're in front by a few units. Take the profit and go.
I was betting R each time but B kept spoiling things during the endgame up to 100 spins. :)
What's your advice, keel?
A.


-33.5 units is a lot.  I wonder if you were playing it correctly.  I have played a few sessions on my own, I was never down more than 20 units and it did recover beautifully.  It took me 150 spins altogether.  How could you do 2 sessions of 100 so fast?

I would say yes you should leave when you are ahead.  When I think long term, it never matters when you leave.  What goes around comes around.

keel44

The only thing that will hurt this is when a trend just gets going and then totally stops.  Over and over and over. 

Eventually, you will get a trend either positively or negatively.  When you get one positively -- you win more.  When you get one negatively -- you lose less

Think of this session possibilty:
Think of 45 wins @ 2.6 units on average and 55 losses @ 1.8 units on average

45 x 2.6 = 117
55 x 1.8 = 99

+18 profit


I use those numbers just as a way to think of this method --- winning more and losing less

keel44

Quote from: atlantis on May 23, 12:31 PM 2012
Second test 100 spins;
Result = -33.5
Highest bank = +16 (very good)
I guess the idea/lesson is to stop when you're in front by a few units. Take the profit and go.
I was betting R each time but B kept spoiling things during the endgame up to 100 spins. :)
What's your advice, keel?
A.

If you were betting correctly...........
Just remember, you could have been on the opposite side as well---and you will be at some point.  You must add all of your sessions together.  I am curious what result you would have gotten if you were betting all black

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