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DNA OF ROULETTE SYSTEM: Your opinions, please

Started by esoito, Sep 11, 07:52 PM 2010

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vundarosa

Quote from: malcop on Aug 16, 11:09 PM 2011
MyTHOS_R

Thank you very much for posting the results from your tests, the only way to prove or dis-aprove this system is if more people post up their own results.

Thanks

malcop

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just played through Mythos' spins and the results were equally disapointing

a) -11
b) -9
c) +15 (highest +21)
d) -12
e) -11
f) -9

total -31

vundarosa

MyTHOS_R

Vundarosa, thank you for re-examining my sample. Verfication is always a good thing.

Another REMARKABLE FACT:  Trylobit's excell worksheet (THE FIRST OF ALL ATTEMPTS TO APPLY DNA OF ROULETTE'S PRINCIPLES) running the same sample of 240 spins yield a gain of +12 chips. As I suspected, Trylobit's sheet gave ONCE again a really good result. In my opinion, THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY GOOD IMPLEMENTATION OF DNA of roulette through all this time. It had the best performance of all the software versions that Don had posted through the last two years. I had told him but he would never listen. JUST USING THE MEC1 (referring to the VERY first version of his Ebook) it keeps up and gives a sign whenever the law of third is valid within a small group of spins. It gives a lot of winning streaks and exits early, when this is necessary (sometimes when it succeeds just 1-3 units net gain). HOWEVER, EVEN THIS ONE, KEPT ahead through a long-term sample of 20.000 spins (!) and then it lost.

SBS is based on patterns. Despite the fact that Don says, it is based in all previous software versions and "if these had'n been created, this also wouldn't have been noticed", IT STILL IS BASED ON PATTERNS AND NOT ON THE LAW OF THIRDS. Mr Colonne has deflected from his very first target and project which was to exploit the law of thirds. This is why SBS fails.

Dear Don, maybe patterns DO EXIST and apply in sciense and in military strategies, even in nature's behavior. But NOT in roulette. Roulette is TOTALLY unpredictable. It is CHAOTIC. If only you could REALLY apply JUST the law of thirds... It is the only one that seems to repeat itself. HOWEVER, we all have seen that in 1.000.000 spins samples, EVEN THIS ONE fails and does not appear.

So, please keep away of grandiose statements and in-blood-signatures CONCERNING ROULETTE. The only thing you achieve is to expose yourself. Try your best (which is indeed admirable and respectful) but KEEP AWAY of HEAVY WORDS... It is just a game of luck.

Kindest regards.

XXVV

I have been aware of the work of Don Colonne now for two years. I really respect and admire the effort and creativity that has gone into his attempts to win on a consistent basis.


It is a tricky and demanding challenge, and certainly a degree of caution and some modesty is required or else it seems we can be severely punished for our impudence (lol) with an unforeseen set of outcomes.


I have written elsewhere, and have merely adopted the wise words of another, that to win at roulette, it is necessary to understand and appreciate the 'true nature' of roulette. Thus it seems that wins can come in short cycles and with a small edge. This comes about through allowing for the movements of Ecart and Equilibre.  Consistent gains of +5 units may be sufficient if the characteristics of a bet are sufficiently conservative, forgiving and user friendly.


Mr Colonne has certainly got onto something very worthwhile with his Dozens and Columns attacks, and there are moments in his game when there may be dramatic cross connection and excellent results are achieved. Unfortunately at other times short gains can be evaporated, but I reckon he is on to something.


I find an interesting relation with the D+C matrix method developed by Scooby Doo, particularly when both Dozens and Columns are played ( on independent strategies). That is a most worthwhile method when understood and applied with sufficient practice and skill.


It is sad to hear writers abdicating all ability to 'read' the 'chaotic' game of roulette, and waving the white flag of 'luck' as the only way out.


Happily this laughable attitude can be refuted by heuristics but this is not the time or place to debate.


Please continue your fine work Don Colonne.








malcop

Hi All,

Latest update from Don

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Dear Philip,   First and foremost I must thank three gentlemen namely VUNDAROSA, MYTHOS_R and XXVV for having commented on the new SBS Link. With their most valuable inputs, I was able to find out the defficiency with the strategy.    Mr. VUNDAROSA is correct. This is the first time I used the Game Direction Indicator GDI to commence wagering. For some inexplicable reason, it worked extremely well (even now) with the London based Smart Live Casino. I tested 20 randomly accessed sessions and I got a gain of +90. However, the biggest disappointment came when I applied it to 161 consecutive spins I obtained in Sri Lanka. Then, I applied it to the 30 original data samples based on which I wrote the book DNA Of Roulette and it was disappointing too. Thus, I was willing to accept the defeat and give up.    However, when I saw the comments by MYTHOS_R, I was encouraged to reenter the game. Then I saw the following quote by XXVV   "I find an interesting relation with the D+C matrix method developed by Scooby Doo, particularly when both Dozens and Columns are played ( on independent strategies). That is a most worthwhile method when understood and applied with sufficient practice and skill. It is sad to hear writers abdicating all ability to 'read' the 'chaotic' game of roulette, and waving the white flag of 'luck' as the only way out.Happily this laughable attitude can be refuted by heuristics but this is not the time or place to debate.

Please continue your fine work Don Colonne."   After having seen this I decided to apply the GDI indicator on Dozens and Columns seperately and found that the three generic strategies, namely P1AM2A, M1AP2A and INV/P1AM2A work independently on Ds and Cs. This is where the mistake is with the SBS strategy and with all previous strategies which treat them in conjunction. Attached herewith is a Excel sheet with a blank template and the first three data samples being analyzed (it is a little time consuming and I was able to analyze only three data samples so far). The results are astonishing. The simple methodology is as follows.    Enter the last spin outcome (A & L), the dozen ID (B), the column ID (M), Dozen Code (C), column code (N), net spin outcomes of dozens (D, F & H) and net spin outcomes of columns (O, Q & S). When entering a 0, use the dozen and column IDs immediately above, code them with - sign and all six net spin outcomes must be -2.    Monitor the values appearing on the (E & I) and (P & T) seperately. If either the E becomes less or equal to -5, commence wagering with what is being directed by the strategy corresponding to I and vise versa. If the value on G is greater than -5, add what is being directed by G also (M1AP2A is considered the neutral strategy). If the value on I or G becomes less or equal to -5 stop wagering until it improves above -5.   Repeat the same process for the columns as well.    From a practical perspective, use sufficient chips to hedge the zero risk. Also, if somethign like AA and BC are to be wagered from the dozens, just wager one chip for A, which is equivalent to wagering 4 chips and takeing a higher order zero risk. The same principle is applicable for wagering for columns as well. With this system, the number of chips per spin could vary between 1 to 8.    Most imortantly, a session shall not continue beyond 30 - 40 active spins.     If the attached Excel sheet is carefully examined, someone with a mathematical background will understand the above. Also, using the blank page, the players who are good in mathematics can start real wagering, if there is sufficient time to update the Excel sheet. I can do it at my end in September, as the casino I use for real wagering is a live table in a real casino on which normal wagering takes place.    Any feedback through the forum will be highly appreciated. I am going to tax Dulan's time, only if it is absolutely sure. We will not be able to do anything until end september as Dulan is extremely busy with his studies and I am going to be out of the country (in Bangladesh) for a few days.    Please upload the Excel sheet also onto the forum.    Best Regards   Don

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Thanks

malcop


malcop

Hi All,

Latest updates from Don

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Hi Don,   How you doing it's been over a month since I spoke to you how are things going?   Have we now come to the end of any development for DNA of roulette?   Thanks

Philip

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Dear Philip,    What a coincidence. I was in conversation with Dulan giving instructions. He is finalizing the software at the moment. We are sitting down tomorrow to upload the final version. It is a highly reliable system. I was able to outperform the worst ever data set I have ever come across. The delay in developing the software was that Dulan had a few exams until last Sunday. This new system can be easily practiced in the real casino. I just returned from MGM and tested it.    Also, I cannot now access the forum. Please let me know as to how I could access it from tomorrow. We will defenitely be uploading the software tomorrow.    Best Regards   Don

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Hi Don,

I just checked and accessed the forum with the following link: link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php and as guest searched for DNA and could access the DNA thread without any problems.

I look forward to seeing the updated software, and really hope it is as good as profitable as you have found it.

Thanks

Philip

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Don/Dulan,

One more thing it is vitally important that the software is easy to use, with no double entry tracking two things at one, all that someone should have to do is just enter the results and the software just tells them where to place the exact bet, only this way will you get the maximum amount of people to test/use your system.

You have to understand that what is simple to you is not so simple for us lesser mortals!

Thanks

Philip

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Dear Philip,    This is what exactly we are doing. You start with six numbers and the system will direct the dozens and columns seperately. In this system, there are occasision we only wager either for the dozens and columns and sometimes for both. We will even automate the exit points. All what the player has to do is to key in the last number correctly. The system will do the rest. Bare with us for just one more day.    Best Regards   Don

Philip

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Dear Philip,    It is 5.55 A.M on Friday the 7th October 2011 in Sri Lanka and the mission is accomplished. The loss is curtailed at a maximum of 10 chips per session and the gains could be as high as 40 chips per session. The system will self lockout upon reaching a termination point. GOOD LUCK TO THE ROULETTE PLAYERS AROUND THE WORLD.    Please post this to the forum.    Best Regards   Don

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Link to the software page: link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/dna-of-roulette.html

Link to the RCL GRAND software: link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/arc/grand/arc.html

I will be doing some testing on this over the weekend and will post my results thoughts here when I am done.

Thanks

malcop

Tomla021

thanks malcop i follow and use your follow the trend--thanks
"No Whining, just Winning"

malcop

Hi All,

I have not had much chance to do any worthwhile testing with the new update to DNA dose anyone have any form of feedback they could share with the group?

Thanks

malcop

malcop

Quote from: Tomla021 on Oct 07, 02:13 AM 2011
thanks malcop i follow and use your follow the trend--thanks
Hi Tomla021,

I still use the simple trend tracker daily it dose the job.

Thanks

malcop

malcop

Hi All,

Update emails from Don

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Dear Philip,    Given below is the link to the new software.    link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/arc/grand/arc.html   Also, I wish to inform that players can upload large data sets by way of CVS files onto this link and test as to what the end result would be, if they played continuously. This will give them the confidence.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    I felt the same as you are. I keep a track of visitors to the website and it is exponentially rising while the number of countries visiting is increasing on a day-to-day basis. I am getting solid results with the local casino. The beauty of this system is that it can done without a computer by a person with a general numerical aptitude.    I can vouch that this is the best system in the world with confidence, because I got a substantial positive result with the toughest real data set I have on record which could not be outperformed by any of the previous software versions. The reason being most often the Columns and the Dozens are regulated independently by two different patterns. The fundamental error associated with the earlier systems was that we treated them in conjunction using the dominant consolidated single strategy.    Now, it is a matter of time for the tables to be turned around in favour of the professional roulette players.    Thanks for monitoring the feedback on behalf of me. You may post this comment to the forum, if you think so.    Best Regards   Don

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Thanks

malcop


vundarosa

4 test sections
70 spins ending at -40u
in one section it went up to +15 and then quickly lost all to get to -10 and exit the system.

anyone actually showing winning results with this?!

vundarosa

vundarosa

No point making your csv with too many spins for when the system tells you to hit reset, and you do it, it wipes out all the spins so its a little of a waste of time for no worth.

vundarosa

RouletteExplorer

a little feedback from me too  :)

It seems that If I had bet the exact opposite of what the system was telling i would be UP...LoL

108 spins  - 55 chips
Casinos must close the tables quickly !  ;D

What we need is new thinking...

malcop

Hi All,

Thanks for you feed back, one question do you think the exit point is set to high?

I say that because until you get to +20 you could lose all the profit you won, many times I got to between 15 - 19 units and the session turned into a losing one all for the sake of winning a few more units.

I think once you get to +10 that should be treated as a winning session, so for example if you get to +10 have a trailing stop-loss, of say between 4 to 8 units.

So for example like this:

+10 trailing stop-loss -8
+15 trailing stop-loss -6
+20 trailing stop-loss -4

Never place a bet that would take you over your trailing stop-loss, if a bet is called for that would take you over the trailing stop-loss, is one is called for exit the session.

So the higher you get the less you are prepared to risk.

Just a thought but a lot of the sessions I got to +10 or more.

What do you think?

You have to remember this system is only using 10 units, and for me normally I would be happy with 50% of my session buy-in.

Thanks

malcop

RouletteExplorer

I tested the next spins after my 1st spin test



Its clear that the bet selections don t show any advantage of all.
And the RESET option as vundarosa  said its a waste of time for no worth.

Don must learn to test his systems on at least 1.000.000 samples before making such a huge claims.

The system is a loser and its clear as all the prinius versions....

malcop 

"""You have to remember this system is only using 10 units, and for me normally I would be happy with 50% of my session buy-in."""

This doesn t change anything.
What we need is new thinking...

malcop

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Oct 11, 03:02 PM 2011
I tested the next spins after my 1st spin test



Its clear that the bet selections don't show any advantage of all.
And the RESET option as vundarosa  said its a waste of time for no worth.

Don must learn to test his systems on at least 1.000.000 samples before making such a huge claims.

The system is a loser and its clear as all the prinius versions....

malcop 

"""You have to remember this system is only using 10 units, and for me normally I would be happy with 50% of my session buy-in."""

This doesn't change anything.
I'm just throwing ideas into the ring, more than happy to take on board any comments  :)

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