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Title: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:26 AM 2010
Pie 8,  Pie 5     Star 1, Star 2

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Eclipse
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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:26 AM 2010
Pie 9,   Pie 7,  Star 2,  Star 6

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Eclipse

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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:27 AM 2010
5 spins later



Pie 6,  Pie 5,  Star 3,  Star 4
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Eclipse

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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:27 AM 2010
Pie 4,  Pie 6,  Star 3, Star 4
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Eclipse

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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:28 AM 2010
Eclipse can be used for 1 Pie and 2 Stars

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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:28 AM 2010
Eclipse can also be achieved using  2 Pies and 1 Star

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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 14, 02:30 AM 2010
Pie 8   Star  3    (END    Exact Number Doctrine)

Luck or Fiction or whatever?  Your decide....   just sharing.

Cheers and good luck.
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Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: VLS on Aug 14, 06:08 AM 2010
Hello again Ben, and many thanks for shsring your Eclipse technique with us.

I feel compelled to ask...

Do you find it profitable to bet mechanically (i.e. ALL the eclipse triggers).

Would you say that -as any other trigger-  it goes accompanied of a framework to detect the best moments to apply the technique? (Filters).

Many thanks for your time and thanks for sharing. It is very appreciated.

I hope the involvement of the members can generate feedback that can also improve it for you.

Regards.
Victor
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: metalrat on Aug 15, 03:32 AM 2010
I am also very curious as to the triggers used.  I hope you can find time
to elaborate.

regards,
metalrat
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Cristal2000 on Aug 15, 07:21 AM 2010
Hello, also I am very curious, of this techniqueââ,¬Â¦  ???   ???

If you have time . . . . . , I would be much pleased to read the explanationsââ,¬Â¦

Sorry for my English, but I live in Italy  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: VLS on Aug 15, 07:22 AM 2010
Cristal, welcome to the forum!  :)
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Cristal2000 on Aug 15, 07:43 AM 2010
Many thanks...
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 17, 05:13 AM 2010
Hi Victor,

I find it profitable.  Lots of patience.


Yes.  I agree, just my own experience.  Might not be the truth.
>Would you say that -as any other trigger-  it goes accompanied of a framework to detect the best moments to apply the technique? (Filters).

Just to clarify, this Eclipse strategy or idea is from Kimo Li's materials.

not my own invention.  

cheers.   :)
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: VLS on Aug 17, 06:51 AM 2010
Thanks for taking the time to respond Ben.

What I would specifically want to know is if you bet every eclipse or you have to wait some between each usage.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 17, 11:21 AM 2010
i use about 12 spins to determine  :)

unable to reveal too much, not really holygrail yet anyway.

but we can discuss. cheers
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Cristal2000 on Aug 17, 06:45 PM 2010
You can see an example with the scheme   ?   ;)
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 18, 12:17 AM 2010
hi cristal2000, what do you mean?



Quote from: cristal2000 on Aug 17, 06:45 PM 2010
You can see an example with the scheme   ?   ;)
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Cristal2000 on Aug 18, 04:09 AM 2010
I want to understand how the game works . .
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: waterbenjamin on Aug 18, 06:22 AM 2010
i still don't get what you mean.

the methods i am using, i will not reveal.

but I will maintain my stand, that Kimo Li's materials are really really useful.

cheers and peace :)


Quote from: cristal2000 on Aug 18, 04:09 AM 2010
I want to understand how the game works . .
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: metalrat on Aug 21, 03:40 PM 2010
with all respect, but what is the point of
posting your results, if your not willing to
share your methods?


metalrat
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Twisteruk on Aug 21, 03:54 PM 2010
DITTO !
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Lulloz on Aug 21, 03:59 PM 2010
I have maked a tracker in VB:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=35 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=35)

Can be useful for someone that want to try to find a way to play this Kimo principle.

Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 21, 04:58 AM 2010
Just looked at this again


Look at the Total Stake and the Onscreen Return, then look at the Value of the Chip on the Winning Number.....


Whats with that ?
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Compa on Sep 22, 07:24 AM 2010
Quote from: waterbenjamin on Aug 18, 06:22 AM 2010
I still don't get what you mean.

the methods I am using, I will not reveal.

but I will maintain my stand, that Kimo Li's materials are really really useful.

cheers and peace :)



LOL!! Another Character urging for Attention. This statement is LAME!

POST or DONT POST!!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Cristal2000 on Sep 26, 11:37 AM 2010
don't POST...... :(  :(  :(  :(
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: iggiv on Oct 05, 09:59 PM 2010
who knows who knows....
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 14, 05:34 PM 2010
 :'(
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: iggiv on Nov 14, 06:18 PM 2010
Quote from: albertojonas on Nov 14, 05:34 PM 2010
:'(
:wink:
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: flukey luke on Nov 14, 06:20 PM 2010
Quote from: iggiv on Nov 14, 06:18 PM 2010
:wink:

:o
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: chrisbis on Nov 14, 06:53 PM 2010
I only just switched on.

Is this a new system based on
how many different smileys we
can post in one thread??

Or how the collective minds in the forum
could chip-(excuse the pun) together
and mind read the system from Waterbabes??




(im only havin' a laugh.......................my son is named Benjamin)

No smileys were hurt during the production
of this 'ere posting, and no trees were chopped down,

..........................................just a few branches snapped!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 14, 07:49 PM 2010
 :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: iggiv on Nov 14, 08:15 PM 2010
Waterbenjamin gave some good food for thoughts and ideas here. I can't brag I found a solution on a long run, but on short runs different matrix approaches can give you good results.

all you have to do is to draw a matrix (maybe even a few with different number order), get see-through holder and mark/analyze hits. you can check {hit (once or twice) pies/stars} intersections, you can check {unhit p/s} intersections, you can wait for different number of spins, you can even try betting pies or stars. But you need some time to practice and analyze it.

in roulette every fixed strategy fails on a long run, but you can try multiple approaches/patterns/matrices. you can also use other Kimo Li's ideas like nuke and bow together with matrix. It is impossible to give here fixed solution to beat a roulette I think. but if you find a few multiple approaches for yourself you may be lucky (or successful?).

I myself did not win any considerable money with matrix yet, but analyzed some patterns and came to conclusion that multiple approaches with matrix to roulette may be useful.
So having Waterbenjamin's results here helps and encourages.

but for God's sake don't :
don't run to casino with big cash right away after series of results like WaterBenjamin's
don't try long progressions with big dawndraw.

Remember it took Kimo Li long long years to come up with what he did
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: chrisbis on Nov 14, 08:21 PM 2010
Here-here to that.

Im studying the Pie's and the Stars too.

(Im am resisting the urge to crack a joke about what I have just said,
for the sake of my sanitificationally-well-being.

Now check that will U, Mr Spell checker!!

There's more to the Matrix ideas than first meets the Pixel Eye!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Nov 14, 09:38 PM 2010
Thanks a lot guys.

Replys #25-28 are the funniest sequence I've read/seen in a long time.

I'm still laughing.

Can we elaborate a little more?

;D ::) ;D :lol:

George
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: albalaha on Nov 14, 10:09 PM 2010
Dear All,
             I have read Kimo's both books. Nothing special and works averagely only with wins and losses. Good only theoratically
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 14, 10:13 PM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Nov 14, 10:09 PM 2010
Dear All,
             I have read Kimo's both books. Nothing special and works averagely only with wins and losses. Good only theoratically

what system do you applied?
There are no systems suggested in those books...  ??? :question:
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: albalaha on Nov 14, 10:22 PM 2010
It is all about system. Have a look again. Clover system, global star system, pendulum system and many more.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: JA on Dec 08, 02:56 AM 2010
Hi guys,
I have Kimo's book Predict the Exact Number.
Since I have spent so many hours testing other roulette systems which have failed miserably, is there a point in investing time learning Kimo's strategies?

Can someone advise that they are consistently winning at roulette using Kimo's strategies?
My fear is that i will be wasting my time again on something that breaks down in the long runs. . thanks for the feedback.

I notice waterbenjamin has lots of screen shots. . .
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Twisteruk on Dec 08, 03:17 AM 2010
Quote from: JA on Dec 08, 02:56 AM 2010

I notice waterbenjamin has lots of screen shots. . .



Yes. Look at those screen shots.

As Ive posted before in this Thread, look at the chips down on the table. Look at their value on the winning number then look the amout they are being paid out....


72 on the winning number ??

Hmmmmmmmmnnnnn  :yawn:
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: chrisbis on Dec 08, 03:33 AM 2010
Paul.
His winnings, would be 72 minus the 8 bet chips on the table= 64

Must be the way the casino annouces the actual winnings R.O.I style.

The 72 should really be 70 (at 35:1 ratio), but they must add back the stake money.

Strange it is mate.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Twisteruk on Dec 08, 03:38 AM 2010
Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 08, 03:33 AM 2010
Paul.
His winnings, would be 72 minus the 8 bet chips on the table= 64

Must be the way the casino annouces the actual winnings R.O.I style.

The 72 should really be 70 (at 35:1 ratio), but they must add back the stake money.

Strange it is mate.


Thats not how I saw it  ???


On his Screenshots he has 72 chips on the winning number but only 2 chips on the other 3 losin numbers


Or maybe I misunderstood what Im seeing  :-\
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: weddings on Dec 08, 03:51 AM 2010
Quote from: Twisteruk on Dec 08, 03:38 AM 2010

that's not how I saw it  ???


On his Screenshots he has 72 chips on the winning number but only 2 chips on the other 3 losing numbers


Or maybe I misunderstood what I'm seeing  :-\

Hey twister you have misunderstood, he bets 2 units per number and when a number wins in that casino, the number will flash showing the amount he won on that number. For 2 units he won 72 units. Hope it makes things clear.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Twisteruk on Dec 08, 03:56 AM 2010
Quote from: weddings on Dec 08, 03:51 AM 2010
Hey twister you have misunderstood, he bets 2 units per number and when a number wins in that casino, the number will flash showing the amount he won on that number. For 2 units he won 72 units. Hope it makes things clear.

Ah most helpful weddings, thank you  :)

I didnt realise that   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: JA on Dec 08, 06:06 AM 2010
Thanks Guys. . .
so just to be crystal clear, it seems from your posts that it is worthwhile looking into Kimo Li's book?
I will assume this until anyone else tells me otherwise.
I am in between contracts and won't be working till January or so.
I plan to start reviewing his material very very soon.
Simply yell out is you feel its a total waste of time. . . anyways, looks like it can be worthwhile. . . rest assured i will report any great results should i find one.
Cheers,

Jose
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Compa on Dec 08, 12:07 PM 2010
All i can say is that Kimo Li's material is the Holy Grail. If You study it carefully and know how to apply it.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: chrisbis on Dec 08, 02:58 PM 2010
Quote from: JA on Dec 08, 06:06 AM 2010
Thanks Guys. . .
so just to be crystal clear, it seems from your posts that it is worthwhile looking into Kimo Li's book?
I will assume this until anyone else tells me otherwise.
I am in between contracts and won't be working till January or so.
I plan to start reviewing his material very very soon.
Simply yell out is you feel its a total waste of time. . . anyways, looks like it can be worthwhile. . . rest assured I will report any great results should I find one.
Cheers,

Jose

I for one will look forward to Ur results postings.  :thumbsup:

And any new tips U gleam from the teachings.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: iggiv on Dec 08, 08:11 PM 2010
Quote from: Compa on Dec 08, 12:07 PM 2010
All I can say is that Kimo Li's material is the Holy Grail. If You study it carefully and know how to apply it.

Cheers!


as i understood there are endless ways to apply it...And yes, it is WORTH studying.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 12, 12:33 AM 2010
Victor, is Waterbenjamin Gamlet? His cadence seems familiar.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: Compa on Dec 12, 05:23 AM 2010
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 12, 12:33 AM 2010
Victor, is Waterbenjamin Gamlet? His cadence seems familiar.

Certainly Not! WB is from the Philippines or similar.
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: VLS on Dec 12, 12:58 PM 2010
Not that I know of. Gamlet doesn't visit our board afaik.

Anyway, who cares about nicknames? let's care only about the quality posts  :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Kimo Li's Matrix - The Eclipse
Post by: risolutore79 on Mar 26, 04:59 AM 2013
Hi guys I'm new to the forum present william are from Italy. I wanted to ask if it possible to download the spreadsheet of the eclipse not ask for an explanation of the system because it will not be revealed, but the program at least I hope it is possible to download thanks