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I am looking for someone who would be so kind to code this.
Preferably - inbox as I don't want to share the system here, and have all the naysayers going at me.
This already took me a long time to do, and being distracted at least 5 times, I almost messed up. So taking out the human element just for testing purposes, would be GREAT and much appreciated. For the expert RX coder this shouldn't take too long.
Thanks in advance.
M
Quote from: Maui13 on Mar 29, 07:01 AM 2019
Preferably - inbox as I don't want to share the system here, and have all the naysayers going at me.
There is a special forum here to post systems where all the maths guys and advantage player naysayers are blocked from commenting:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=108.0
Just saying in case you weren't aware of it.
Hey, it wouldn't be such a cool world if all of us agreed?
I just said it because I could :lol:
Come on, I need some RX coding done, don't be like that :xd:
Dude, great! I wish i can code, but i cannot. Ignatus maybe or normy?
It looks very Martingalish if that's a word ;) Steady gain and steep drop - definitely not one for the faint hearted!
Quote from: Firefox on Mar 29, 12:12 PM 2019
It looks very Martingalish if that's a word ;) Steady gain and steep drop - definitely not one for the faint hearted!
Not going to deny that fact that there is marty in there.... but you have to admit, not too bad hey?
Guess what, all of the graphs look like this... :thumbsup:
It has to do something witt the rum bum eh?
Too huge of a drawdown, auch!!
Not too bad but still very scary ::) :P
It very much depends on the RNG and your luck, if testing it shows up the progression weakness. How many bets in your drawdown, was it 7 or 8, difficult to see? Many places won't let you get that far. But looks def worth softening your progression and accepting a less steady climb, just from the one graph you posted.
Quote from: Robbert on Mar 29, 04:56 PM 2019
It has to do something witt the rum bum eh?
BWHAAA!!! :xd:
Quote from: foreverBOB on Mar 29, 06:18 PM 2019
Too huge of a drawdown, auch!!
If you had a 500 unit bankroll? What huge drawdown?
Some systems here hit as low as 2000 unit and then people still rave about it. Come on man, look at it for what it is.
300 spins, fairly consistent climb, 1 "big" draw down... if I run this system 1,2,4,8 I'll still have a consistent climb in the graph.
Quote from: Firefox on Mar 29, 06:28 PM 2019
Not too bad but still very scary ::) :P
It very much depends on the RNG and your luck, if testing it shows up the progression weakness. How many bets in your drawdown, was it 7 or 8, difficult to see? Many places won't let you get that far. But looks def worth softening your progression and accepting a less steady climb, just from the one graph you posted.
Firefox - it's as raw as what it gets to systems. I just played the progression flat out to see if it would hit rock bottom. Now 1 x 8 step progression in 300 spins, is that bad. Be honest? Considering that very little people would even sit to play that.
This is the typical "hit & run" mojo.... 10 units and out.
I really believe its got potential. If only someone would step up.
Are they roughly even chance type bets?
In which case an adverse run of 8 would come once in every 2^8 = 1 in 256 spins.
So your graph would be quite fair and typical of what to expect.
But once in every 512 plays (on average ) you'd get a depeer drop.
All depends on what you want from it. But if you played 100 spins a day for 5 days it comes to the same thing. At some stage you could expect a 9 step hit. (Assuming it's a roughly even chance of missing.... if it's different to even, numbers will be slightly different)
Quote from: Firefox on Mar 30, 02:26 AM 2019
Are they roughly even chance type bets?
In which case an adverse run of 8 would come once in every 2^8 = 1 in 256 spins.
So your graph would be quite fair and typical of what to expect.
But once in every 512 plays (on average ) you'd get a depeer drop.
All depends on what you want from it. But if you played 100 spins a day for 5 days it comes to the same thing. At some stage you could expect a 9 step hit. (Assuming it's a roughly even chance of missing.... if it's different to even, numbers will be slightly different)
Yes it's even chance, the bet selection is not my own creation but I'll give credit where due once RX'd
I was thinking to only go 1,2,4,8 and the graph would still have a steady climb.
But I've come to get to know you, and I know you are not one for systems, I do appreciate your valuable input as I have a LOT to still learn.
Joined the forum back in 2010, on/off only played live in the casino twice as I was just to scared to trust what I then believed was an awesome system. ( CODE 4 )
So I guess the reason why I asked someone to RX, is purely to put my mind at ease a bit to see that if I did play this every day for 10 units only, if I would come out on top at the end of a month.
Anyway, that was me mumbling on and on.
Ciao,
M
Systems are fine for fun, but they are not money making tools. It's more for entertainment in making them up and the thrill of playing I guess :)
But 10 spins a day for a month, you'd on average get one 8 bet adverse run. You might get three, you might get none, but your graph is typical.
It doesn't matter if you play one session of 300 spins or 30 of 10 the chance is the same of getting a bad streak.
It's impossible to say if you will be up after a month, and no amount of testing can tell you really. But once every 256 spins for a bad run of 8 is what chance alone says.
Thanks Notto. Both nice and easy methods of bet selection, making the decision for us.
Cheers. This from Ewar in the colour matrix; so you'd need to go there to see what this reply is about.
Mauri early days in the colour matrix below to win 10 units
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Mauri; now how you use the Hammerdown could be different to the above. But the above is flat bet. It shows 11 rounds; to enable 10 bets. On 2 occasions had Zero show and made no bet for next spin; so just had those zero spins at the end.
Now this is using unit of 1; but i only carried on to bet 10 spin to see if could get a big win and 6 units was the best. But there are times the 1 unit is won before 10 spins.
The 10 unit wins are using a Marty
so below spin 2 win; wouldn't meet those zeros as your target would be won.
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Get the Hammerdown. Using your 1-2-4-8
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Another way to look at an 8 sequence adverse run is like a roulette number. What are the chances of it appearing in a certain number of spins.
Chance of 1/256 = 0.00390625
Chance of not appearing = 1-0.00390625= 0.99609375
Chance of not appearing in 300 spins=
(0.99609375)^300 = 0.31
Therefore chance of appearing in 300 spins = 1- 0.31 = 69%
Chance of not appearing in 600 spins =
(0.9960375)^600=0.096
Therefore chance of appearing in 600 spins = 1-0.096 =90.4%
So, if you play for 1 month (300 spins), chance you'll see 8 bet drawdown is 69% and if you play for 2 months(600 spins) the chance is 90%
This is assuming you play the full progression. If you just play 10 spins a time, you may avoid the full one, but will presumably be cutting your losses when the 10 spins is up, so slightly different pattern of win/loss.
Boom, Boom
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Mauri 42 spins to come; will it be crash and burn
299; +93
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These numbers won +93 units. Opened a new; pack of playing cards. Removed the 10 up to the king; leaving 2 red suits of 9 cards each, same for black and added a joker, if you want it to be just like an American wheel use two jokers. Remember to replace the card; you want a full deck.
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The math guy's want it random so use the playing cards the 19 took 3 cards, the 23; 1 card.
The #8 the cards came 8clubs, 2 hearts, joker and 4 clubs
Try for yourself then your using random against random, unless you can rig the deck
only a few but +100 uing the colour of the card.
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Notto....
Can I tell you where the name came from - HammerDown ?
Nottophammer - "Hammer"
Downtown - "Down"
So thanks to you and Downtown. Soon I am going to start playing this live, and I believe I am going to end up every month with more than what I started.
I don't care if nobody wants to RX this, what matters is that we are going to be 3 guys, that make consistent income from something as simple as this.
BTW - the bet selection is the 1 & 2 method :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 30, 11:19 AM 2019
299; +93
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BTW - did you notice that the ratio of wins to spins .... works out about 1 unit per 3 spins :xd: Not just from your tests, but from mine too.
I know Downtown is busy this weekend, but when he returns he'll have similar outcomes to us.
Keep on winning mate :thumbsup:
Best of luck. It's still scary to me, but let us know how you get on!
Quote from: Firefox on Mar 30, 03:36 PM 2019
Best of luck. It's still scary to me, but let us know how you get on!
Thanks Firefox, will return with results - good or bad. 8)
Quote from: Maui13 on Mar 30, 01:57 AM 2019if I run this system 1,2,4,8 I'll still have a consistent climb in the graph.
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Not bad for 39 spins
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So from the #1; 1st 10 spins is 9/10 add 15 to the 9=24 you can count 26 of the starting 37 have hit. So played perfect.
Mauri and Dtown
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Another bank roll made and a profit of 5 time to go home.
Well i know on average 60 spins give 30 non-hit; this run 32 have hit. You wanted 24 non-hit by spin 40 and had 26; so +2. The average at 60 spins is 30; but ended +2
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M & DT; took the 4 at the end.
Dtown
Has the post arrived
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 01, 05:42 AM 2019
Well i know on average 60 spins give 30 non-hit; this run 32 have hit. You wanted 24 non-hit by spin 40 and had 26; so +2. The average at 60 spins is 30; but ended +2
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M & DT; took the 4 at the end.
Awesome job Notto! I am also going to start the extensive testing ONLY running 1,2,4,8
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Consistence is key... love it!
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LOL! :yawn:
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Consistence is key... love it! :thumbsup:
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Consistence is key... love it! :thumbsup:
We'll get out losses sometime Notto on the 1,2,4,8 - but we'll just take it back :twisted:
@ Nickmsi - I see you reading...
Come on man, make us some bot or something :xd:
I could make you something in Excel but it doesn’t look viable.
Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 01, 08:54 AM 2019
I could make you something in Excel but it doesn’t look viable.
Thank you very much for your offer. As the saying goes - beauty is in the eye of the beholder :thumbsup:
But - if you'd be so kind anyway, please do.
Ultimately, with an import function to be able to load numbers with a graph output.
But I'm sure you know your stuff, no need for me to explain.
Please, would be forever thankful.
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M&Dtown
When I go on MPR I always press ready and get a 2nd number as don’t know when last used, that’s me thou, so I started with #31 +50
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M & Dtown
Got to; +17; then the loss came. Spin 39; -17 units. Spin 92; +15 equivalent of another bank roll.
You like?
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But remember the Generals tip; where a red sock and a black sock and for safety a green jumper
Also had my very first bust today, but it had to come sooner or later.
Not just that, I wasn't paying attention and might have c***ed up what to bet. Doesn't matter, what I do know is, that we definitely need to work on some type of progression that isn't as foul as a full blown marty.
Perhaps relook at Downtowns initial staking plan as per his Matrix?
Heres a bit for me to catch up on. I've run through it once now to go back and soak it in. I'm still working on joining a couple of systems to maybe achieve a trigger.
Maui, the Marty alone is a bit steep, try and level it out a bit such as
Level 1 1,2,4
Level 2 2,3,6
Level 3 3,4,8
Level 4 4,5,10
On a win just drop back a level, if you find that too steep just add 1,2,4,8, 2,3,6,12, to the level, or add a level, whatever suits the pocketbook.
That will stretch it out a bit and save falling in the hole so Quickly and recoup is just as fast.
Failing that use level 1 as a leveller, 1,2,4,4,4,4, until level or new high.
I've said about i use spin2 to start the #5; +50
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As i just been on and no one else there started with the #27 again +50