***THE REVERSE SLIDE***

[Johnlegend]

Congratulations Atlantis, JohnLegend.  This looks good   

*I sure miss Ophis and the MST--it could be useful here

Its a very good one Proof. Ive been telling you all since I landed on this forum. The price for a roulette killer is TIME/PATIENCE. Those who are able to take that onboard and stay with it will prospur and move forward..

[Johnlegend]

Thanks JohnLegend and atlantis for taking us to this level............

GLC:

"I examined 850+ games and they all won.
The highest bet I had to make was 27-27 which I had to make 5 times
I still had two more levels available if I had needed them.
At this point, even if I lose a complete progression, I'm still ahead."

Just the start of REVERSE SLIDE............................ 

Hi Amk, yes its looking very strong. Maybe even stronger than CODE 4. The only difference is its purely random. So you have to wait for random to deliver your trigger like with PATTERN BREAKER. But the strikerate could be spectacular. Im always happy to double the paper odds. Code 4 gave me a magnificent 642/1 in its first run. And is looking likely to become 1000/1

The matrix slide was looking good, but im never too precious. If I feel someone has improved my idea I go with it. And I feel Atlantis has done just that for TWO REASONS.

1, That pattern is very difficult for random to produce.

2. You get a faster turnover than with the MATRIX SLIDE. Because you dont have to wait for a new trigger for each step of the four step progression. This is a MAJOR improvement. Thats why Ive put the MATRIX SLIDE to bed in favour of THE REVERSE SLIDE.

[GLC]

What happens if you get like 9 dozens in a row

It takes a lot more than 9 in a row to cause this to fail.

Real spins:


1 3 2 2
2 2 2 2  Row 2 Win  +1
2 2 2 2  Row 2 Lose  -2
2 3 2 1  Row 2 Win +1, Row 3 Lose  -6
3 2 1 3  Row 2 Lose -2, Row 4 Win  +9
2 3 3 1 Row 2 Lose -2, Row 3 Win +3
1 1 2 1 Row 2 Win +1, Row 3 Win +3

Play each pattern with a separate progression.
That's the strength of this system, the difficulty in reproducing the pattern.


I choose a 6 step progression because if you never lose by waiting for the 1st 3 steps of the pattern to form and then betting that the last 4 steps won't form, you will pass up a huge number of wins because every time the 2nd and 3rd steps don't form, you win also.


This way of playing is only for those who have A.D.D. and don't want to pass up 10 or more wins waiting for an opportunity to bet.

You can play this hit-n-run also.  Jump in for a win of 20 units which won't take long at all.

[MaximB]

Hello JohnL!
You developed a great system as I see from the feedbacks,but I would like to ask you 2 things:
this system is for the real wheel only,or can be played in the online casino either (BV NZ roulette for example)?
And, if it won't be too hard for,can you upload/attach the excel file where's shown how do you play this system?
You know,reading is one thing,and to see the usage of the system on practice is another. It will help the people to understand your system more clearly,for example for me 
It would be great.
Cheers

[grayen]

Does this system bet "diagonal" only?

if we have 3 same dozen or column in line?
Do we bet it?

like

1232
1223
1322

Do we bet it ( 1 won't show up again , so we bet 2 and 3 )?

And do u bet like this?

I know it like your matrix vertical ... can't we combin it into together?

Bet both "diagonal" and "vertical"?

[GLC]

Does this system bet "diagonal" only?

if we have 3 same dozen or column in line?
Do we bet it?

like

1232
1223
1322

Do we bet it ( 1 won't show up again , so we bet 2 and 3 )?

And do u bet like this?

I know it like your matrix vertical ... can't we combin it into together?

Bet both "diagonal" and "vertical"?

Since JL and A are hob nobbing with the rich down at the local casino, I'll presume to answer this question.



The original system is for diagonals only.
Play both dozens and columns at the same time.
Hit-n-run.
Play 4 games, then end session.


Of course you can play vertical, but it's not "The Reverse Slide".


You'll have to test it and see if you like playing verticals also.


As with all systems, there's so many permutations in the spins that a tweak here and there may not make that much difference.


The one thing that will make a difference is the bet method.  This system, like most matrix systems, is uses a bet method where we're looking for 1 win in 3, 4 or more attempts.  Any win recovers all previous losses making them limited or capped martingales.


If you try a +1, -1 D'Alembert progression, it doesn't do quite as well in the long run from my experience.  It may still win, but not as efficiently.

[Johnlegend]

Since JL and A are hob nobbing with the rich down at the local casino, I'll presume to answer this question.



The original system is for diagonals only.
Play both dozens and columns at the same time.
Hit-n-run.
Play 4 games, then end session.


Of course you can play vertical, but it's not "The Reverse Slide".


You'll have to test it and see if you like playing verticals also.


As with all systems, there's so many permutations in the spins that a tweak here and there may not make that much difference.


The one thing that will make a difference is the bet method.  This system, like most matrix systems, is uses a bet method where we're looking for 1 win in 3, 4 or more attempts.  Any win recovers all previous losses making them limited or capped martingales.


If you try a +1, -1 D'Alembert progression, it doesn't do quite as well in the long run from my experience.  It may still win, but not as efficiently.

Glc I admire your wry sense of hunour. To anwser the original quesrion Its been tested and proofed as THE REVERSE SLIDE. Dont try to over complicate things to cater to your lack of patience. That is one of the major reasons this game is falsely thought of as unbeatable by the masses. Ill tell you the wait for THE REVERSE SLIDE, is a big improvement over THE MATRIX SLIDE. You will get your 4 games inside 80 spins most of the time. So adhere to it. Im 320/0 and my progression hasnt been challenged yet. Dig deep inside yourself and say I can wait TO WIN.

[GLC]

Glc I admire your wry sense of hunour. To anwser the original quesrion Its been tested and proofed as THE REVERSE SLIDE. don't try to over complicate things to cater to your lack of patience. That is one of the major reasons this game is falsely thought of as unbeatable by the masses. Ill tell you the wait for THE REVERSE SLIDE, is a big improvement over THE MATRIX SLIDE. You will get your 4 games inside 80 spins most of the time. So adhere to it. I'm 320/0 and my progression hasn't been challenged yet. Dig deep inside yourself and say I can wait TO WIN.

I appreciate that you have a method of play that is a winning method.  Kudos to you for sharing it with us.  Here's my way of thinking.  Let's say you win every time.  That means you will never lose a 27-27 bet.  That means that if I start betting 2 steps ahead of you, I will never lose a 243-243 bet either.  When you lose, I lose.


Now, when I lose, I lose 844 units.  When you lose you will lose 80 units.  I will play 10 to 11 times more spins than you will and I will win every one of them except the ones we both lose.  Mathematically, I will win about 805 units for every loss and you will win 76 units for every loss.  At the end of the day if everything works out mathematically, we'll both be a little sad because we lost a little.


Now, if this idea beats random and we actually win twice a many times as we should for every loss, then we will both go to the bank happy fellows.  The difference is that I'm doing more betting than you are instead of tracking which suits my personality, but not yours.


I don't deny that your way has some advantages over mine.  For one thing, you can have larger unit sizes and still stay within table limits.  Your bank can also be smaller than mine since all you need are 80 units and I need 844.


So far in my practice sessions, I have been very pleased with the results.  I am just in testing mode right now.  I'll see how things look.  I'm shooting for 50 units won each session and so far they have come very easy.  I play both directions at the same time (from left to right and then back to left and also from right to left and back to right) and on both columns and dozens.  That means 4 bets per line which is maybe a little much for real play situations.  I can usually win my 50 units in 80-100 spins which is about an hour and a half on my airball machine.


How I play is a personal preference.  All I can say is I thank you and A for this method.  It's the most promising I've seen to date.  As I have stated elsewhere, one of my investments is $10,000 that's earning very little at the moment, but it's safe.  It is set aside to be used for the system that I determine is a long term winner.  I'll see if I can double it every year.  If so, in 5 years it'll be $160,000.  I'm still a working bloke, so I'm in no hurry.  Like I said, it's sitting in a very safe place and going no where.


This may be the one.  If I determine that your method is safer/better, I'll drop mine in a heartbeat.  Knowledge is what I'm after, not ego gratification.


Cheers to you and yours,


George

[amk]

Thank you Johnlegend for sharing all that you know...........

Before I landed on the forum I found myself lost in a maze.........

It is incredible to look back at only 4 short months and see the giant leaps taken forward...............

[Johnlegend]

I appreciate that you have a method of play that is a winning method.  Kudos to you for sharing it with us.  Here's my way of thinking.  Let's say you win every time.  That means you will never lose a 27-27 bet.  That means that if I start betting 2 steps ahead of you, I will never lose a 243-243 bet either.  When you lose, I lose.


Now, when I lose, I lose 844 units.  When you lose you will lose 80 units.  I will play 10 to 11 times more spins than you will and I will win every one of them except the ones we both lose.  Mathematically, I will win about 805 units for every loss and you will win 76 units for every loss.  At the end of the day if everything works out mathematically, we'll both be a little sad because we lost a little.


Now, if this idea beats random and we actually win twice a many times as we should for every loss, then we will both go to the bank happy fellows.  The difference is that I'm doing more betting than you are instead of tracking which suits my personality, but not yours.


I don't deny that your way has some advantages over mine.  For one thing, you can have larger unit sizes and still stay within table limits.  Your bank can also be smaller than mine since all you need are 80 units and I need 844.


So far in my practice sessions, I have been very pleased with the results.  I am just in testing mode right now.  I'll see how things look.  I'm shooting for 50 units won each session and so far they have come very easy.  I play both directions at the same time (from left to right and then back to left and also from right to left and back to right) and on both columns and dozens.  That means 4 bets per line which is maybe a little much for real play situations.  I can usually win my 50 units in 80-100 spins which is about an hour and a half on my airball machine.


How I play is a personal preference.  All I can say is I thank you and A for this method.  It's the most promising I've seen to date.  As I have stated elsewhere, one of my investments is $10,000 that's earning very little at the moment, but it's safe.  It is set aside to be used for the system that I determine is a long term winner.  I'll see if I can double it every year.  If so, in 5 years it'll be $160,000.  I'm still a working bloke, so I'm in no hurry.  Like I said, it's sitting in a very safe place and going no where.


This may be the one.  If I determine that your method is safer/better, I'll drop mine in a heartbeat.  Knowledge is what I'm after, not ego gratification.


Cheers to you and yours,


George

Glc you make some good points. It is all about personal preferences, bankroll limits etc. What I try to do is present a method that not only is a longterm winner. But affordable to newbies. Its easy for you and me to say well risk 1000 units on a method because we have it to play with.

I personally play 160 units on both CODE 4 and THE REVERSE SLIDE. But it will be off putting and daunting to the average player to suggest they risk 842 units on a method that A, is in its infancy and B, will be way beyond their pockets.

I already know that if you risked 800 units on several methods youd never lose. Even the PATTERN BREAKER would never lose if I formulated it with a 800 units progression.

So we enter the game with a compromise. I'm pretty sure if I came on this forum and said I have a method that never loses for a five unit risk. Id have some serious interest. But there isnt nor everwill be such a method. Randoms beatable there is no question about that.

But you have to gauge its biting point with both the right method and right progression. You must also take RECOVERY into consideration. Some months down the line we will have an idea of how good THE REVERSE SLIDE really is.

I'm seriously expecting a true 500/1 strikerate with this gem played HIT AND RUN. When I do eventually lose I will recover the loss in 20 games. YOU SENSE IT ALREADY GLC. And I know it, Atlantis's superb observation. And my relentless testing and pushing of this idea, has delivered as you stated. Possibly not only the best MATRIX method EVER. But the best method ever.

Time is the teller of course. But its performing so within itself, it just feels so natural as a winner. Its a definate roulette killer. The only question is by what margin??

[Johnlegend]

Thank you Johnlegend for sharing all that you know...........

Before I landed on the forum I found myself lost in a maze.........

It is incredible to look back at only 4 short months and see the giant leaps taken forward...............

Amk you are part of those leaps, you took from me and came back with the great CODE 4. Now Atlantis through his relentless experimentation has hit gold again. I just quickly realized how good his observation was.

So yes, there are no excuses anymore, randoms well and truly defeated with this one.

[Robeenhuut]

Here's an interesting observation.  I just checked those same spins against TurboGenius' system where he bets that the last for dozens won't spin in the same sequence again.  In other words if the last 4 spins were 1323 he bets against 1323 spinning in the next for spins.  I just expanded the idea to 6 instead of 4 to see how the results would stack up against the reverse slide idea and in my 3500 spins, I got very similar results but the slide edged out as a safer bet.  Granted 3500 spins is just a drop in the bucket for testing purposes, but it does show a tendency.


Betting that the last 6 don't repeat:


Over 850 wins.
Bet the 4th level 27-27 nine times.
Bet the 5th level  80-80 one time.
Never had to bet the 243-243 level.


Just for info.


Hey JL.  Why don't you erase my last few posts and I'll copy them to a new topic under Notepad so they don't create white noise on this topic.  That way everything on this topic will be about your original method.

GLC

I play Reverse dozens 4 a while.  Never lost in 300+ games.  But it is just pure luck.
All d fancy matrixes loose at some time.  I lost FIRST ever game of CODE 4  played n some people report winning streaks of hundreds 
So prefer faster turnover methods but they loose all at some point.
I won 300+ games playing dozens so i will be ahead. KISS keep it simple 
Check my EC Up n Downer.  It has some merit n will always work in long run 

But u need some bankroll.

Regards

[Newlight]

Yes just done my 1st TEST run 64 Spins ... Doubled my money... RNG...  Looking Great... What I did was have 2 going on the 1 matrix and I was NOT WAITING for 1 1 1 1 I was doing ANY sequence and betting against it... Still worked...

[Newlight]

1 st off I've done my my 1st 64 spins and doubled my money...

2nd I didn't wait for ANY perfect pattern... I just Bet against ANY sequence...

3rd I was doing 2 at once  on the same 4x4  Right to Left and Left to Right
diagonal....

4th This is what I wanted to share with YOU!! Why does it Work... ??  And Why is it better than Matrix...

So for ANY one to correctly pick a 3rd 4 times in a row the odds are 1-81

So WHAT THIS SYSTEM DOES is SAYS that 81-1  is VERY HIGHLY unlikely going to repeat... Twice so if 81-1 comes up twice EXACTLY are not the odds 6500 -1

and 5th you can do it Diagonal TWICE and as a ROW and As  a Column...

And you can bet this by using 26 Chips to Beat 81-1 as You said I haven't had to gone to 4 yet... LoL

I love it... It may be the MISSING LINK....

[Robeenhuut]

Yes just done my 1st TEST run 64 Spins ... Doubled my money... RNG...  Looking Great... What I did was have 2 going on the 1 matrix and I was NOT WAITING for 1 1 1 1 I was doing ANY sequence and betting against it... Still worked...

U did 64 spins?  how about 6400?  then u will have some idea.  Play some
short series like John said n pray that law of probabilities works in yr favor.
Test it thoroughly n follow d instructions of d guys that did it b4.
We r here out 2 help each other 2 get bk at casinos 

Regards