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*MATRIX VERTICAL 5* (FOR HI & LO)

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 17, 02:39 PM 2011

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Robeenhuut

Quote from: superman on Mar 27, 05:20 AM 2012

Yes it can, when these matrix methods first came around I tested them against ALL types of random, RNG playtech, BV, and live wheel data, it/they ALL failed long term.

Now we will here all about hit n hoperun again, that's after he tells you about the pitfalls of RNG LoL. And there is still nobody else who can replicate his winning runs, makes you think doesn't it.
 
As far as I am concerned there will be no difference, that inevitable bankroll cleaning run will happen.

I totally agree. Im tired of hearing about limits of random and how particular pattern can "confuse" it and degrees of patience required to play these systems.
I think they only appeal to rookie players here.

Regards
Matt

superman

QuoteI think they only appeal to rookie players here

I wouldn't go as far as to say "rookie" players, but to those that are encouraged by hyped posts, we must remember as robeenhuut says, there are no limits to what can be spat out at any given time, we have debated hit n run and found no conclusion, what works for one person has not been reproduced by anyone else so far, that one person is very very lucky IF he has had the good run he has so far, we must remember, without calling anyone a liar, the results posted are just that, posted results, wether they are accurate or not we have no way of verifying.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

subby

I've been playing this on paddypower using £0.50 units with a progression of 1, 2, 4, 8 using a quad as a trigger and the last 3 nights have gone well

Wed - £10 BR and cashed out £18
Thu - £10 BR and cashed out £15
Fri tonight - £10 BR and cashed out £15

Can someone explain the 2 tier 2 step betting as I don't get it hence me reverting to a simple progressive bet.
Regards
Subby

subby

Sat 15th - deposited £10 and cashed out £18.50  O0
Regards
Subby

subby

This system has overtaken code4 for me as a bread and butter system for getting units. It is brilliant. Small enough bankroll needed yet you can grind out 10 units winnings before logging out in less than an hour.

For me it is 1 loss so far and as I've actually lost track of what I've won I can't give a 100% accurate but it is definitely over 90:1.

Given I play £0.50 units I'm up over £70(140 units) in the last fortnight already.

Cheers John L for showing me this and if I can just now get my head around 5 then I'll be the happiest boy about lol  :wink:

Regards
Subby

superman

QuoteCan someone explain the 2 tier 2 step betting

I 'think' they mean

bet 1,2,4,8 until you lose the full progression
then
2,4,8,16 until you get back ahead if you win/loss is good enough, 90/1 sounds good enough to me
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: subby on Oct 05, 03:23 AM 2012
This system has overtaken code4 for me as a bread and butter system for getting units. It is brilliant. Small enough bankroll needed yet you can grind out 10 units winnings before logging out in less than an hour.

For me it is 1 loss so far and as I've actually lost track of what I've won I can't give a 100% accurate but it is definitely over 90:1.

Given I play £0.50 units I'm up over £70(140 units) in the last fortnight already.

Cheers John L for showing me this and if I can just now get my head around 5 then I'll be the happiest boy about LoL  :wink:
You are welcome Subby. It was a joint effort this Matrix idea between Twister, Atlantis and myself. Its good and I'm glad you are findng it useful. Ask any questions you need to. To get a better understanding of FIVE. Because its on another level.

ashwinsinha

Quote from: Twisteruk on Apr 17, 03:02 PM 2011
Awesome JL  :twisted:


I've been playing this most of the Day at PaddyPower  :xd:



Maybe you could state your rule for Zero, so everyone knows what to do in that respect  :thumbsup:
twister please explain to me in dummy form right from start to end this method..... plz i tried reading it twice thrice not even 0.01% i understood except that we are betting hi lo patterns...... plz be as helpfull as possible..... i am begenining to love this forum..... always trying new methods from here always staying ahead.....

ashwinsinha

Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 18, 11:00 AM 2011
Right, never has a history bar been more USEFUL LoL!! You see the naysayers have always had the view Roulette is a game of no SKILL. I have never subscribed to that point of view. The skill is learning to read randoms behaviour as best we can. And the FOUR WIDE MATRIX makes it more readable than ever.

More than a few members on a forum should get hold of this. THIS IS VERY POWERFUL.
please john if you are reading this plz comment a detailed guide for dummies like me :question:..... not getting anything .....quad.... wide matrix...... all bouncing over my head :ooh:.... i know only one thing that you are betting high low after getting some pattern :thumbsup:..... but what that pattern is just not understanding even 0.01% of it :question: :( :embarrassed:.... plz be as detailed as possible..... plz waiting for reply......

subby

ok I'll try

you pick either HIGH/LOW or EVEN/ODD or RED/BLACK as your "method"

I'll use high low as an example (using H for high and L for Low)

start recording the spins in 4 rows until you have something like this

H   L   H   H   - after 4 spins make a new line like so and record another 4 spins underneath the first 4


you should have something similar to

H   L   H   H
L    L   L   H  - after 4 spins make a new line like so and record another 4 spins underneath the first two sets of 4

then again until you have a grid of 4 x4 something like so....like


H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
    ^^^

What you are looking for is a line going down the grid with 4 of the same. You can see from my grid in the 2nd row down we have 4 Lows...this is our trigger to bet the next time we are due to put a spin there. We are betting AGAINST the 4 row becoming a row of 5 Lows

If we take the next spin and put it under row 1 we have something like this...

H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   

*AT THIS POINT WE BET HIGH*  i.e. against the 4 sets of L's down becoming a 5 set of L's going down the grid

If it wins then great, mark it off as a win and keep tracking until you get another set of 4 H or L's going down the grid



If it DOESN'T win then I personally mark it with a "l" to indicate a loss and record more spins until it gets around again to the row of L's reading down the grid, we are now trying to bet that the 5 sets of L's doesn't become a 6 set down like so....

H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   Ll  H  L                    We bet 1 unit at the first try
H   ^^^(bet here)            We bet 2 units at the second try etc....

Betting sequence I use is 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 then stop

You might end up with something like

H   L   H   H
L   L   L    H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L     L
H   Ll  H    L
H   Ll  L     L
L   Ll  H     L
H  Hw       ^^^          the Hw is me showing a High spin and therefore a win(w)

Also note now we have another betting chance on the 4th column where we have a trigger of another 4 L's reading down as shown by the ^^^ You can then start to bet again on it NOT becoming a set of 5 L's reading down the grid in the 4th column

And so on

I'd recommend you play about in practice mode and get happy with the bets then play with real money.

After you have mastered this you an then move on to recording for all 3 types of even money bets so you are updating 3 grids at the same time. Please be careful of losing track though as trying to keep 3 grids updated is tricky


HIGH/LOW grid

H   L   H   H
L   H   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H

EVEN/ODD grid

e   o   e   o
o   e   e   o
o   e   o   e
o   e   o  e
o


RED/BLACK grid

r    b   b   b
r    b   r   r
b   b   r   r
b   r   b   r
r    r
etc....


Does that help?
Regards
Subby

ashwinsinha

Quote from: subby on Oct 07, 09:13 AM 2012
ok I'll try

you pick either HIGH/LOW or EVEN/ODD or RED/BLACK as your "method"

I'll use high low as an example (using H for high and L for Low)

start recording the spins in 4 rows until you have something like this

H   L   H   H   - after 4 spins make a new line like so and record another 4 spins underneath the first 4


you should have something similar to

H   L   H   H
L    L   L   H  - after 4 spins make a new line like so and record another 4 spins underneath the first two sets of 4

then again until you have a grid of 4 x4 something like so....like


H   L   H   H
L    L   L   H  - after 4 spins make a new line like so and record another 4 spins underneath the first two sets of 4


H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
    ^^^

What you are looking for is a line going down the grid with 4 of the same. You can see from my grid in the 2nd row down we have 4 Lows...this is our trigger to bet the next time we are due to put a spin there. We are betting AGAINST the 4 row becoming a row of 5 Lows

If we take the next spin and put it under row 1 we have something like this...

H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   

*AT THIS POINT WE BET HIGH*  i.e. against the 4 sets of L's down becoming a 5 set of L's going down the grid

If it wins then great, mark it off as a win and keep tracking until you get another set of 4 H or L's going down the grid



If it DOESN'T win then I personally mark it with a "l" to indicate a loss and record more spins until it gets around again to the row of L's reading down the grid, we are now trying to bet that the 5 sets of L's doesn't become a 6 set down like so....

H   L   H   H
L   L   L   H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   Ll  H  L                    We bet 1 unit at the first try
H   ^^^(bet here)            We bet 2 units at the second try etc....

Betting sequence I use is 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 then stop

You might end up with something like

H   L   H   H
L   L   L    H 
H   L   H   H
L   L   L     L
H   Ll  H    L
H   Ll  L     L
L   Ll  H     L
H  Hw       ^^^          the Hw is me showing a High spin and therefore a win(w)

Also note now we have another betting chance on the 4th column where we have a trigger of another 4 L's reading down as shown by the ^^^ You can then start to bet again on it NOT becoming a set of 5 L's reading down the grid in the 4th column

And so on

I'd recommend you play about in practice mode and get happy with the bets then play with real money.

After you have mastered this you an then move on to recording for all 3 types of even money bets so you are updating 3 grids at the same time. Please be careful of losing track though as trying to keep 3 grids updated is tricky


HIGH/LOW grid

H   L   H   H
L   H   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H

EVEN/ODD grid

e   o   e   o
o   e   e   o
o   e   o   e
o   e   o  e
o


RED/BLACK grid

r    b   b   b
r    b   r   r
b   b   r   r
b   r   b   r
r    r
etc....


Does that help?

hi subby
i understood is fully.... you taught it like a professor man thanks alot "master of roulette"..... these days i am playing vile's rolling lines method wait for 4 uniques and then attack the last 3..... always in + till now..... i know someday some hell will drop on the wheel and go against me but i am prepared for this with a stop loss..... or pocket ur wins quickly aim for $10-$20 per day..... just my share...... when i first started 1 year ago playing roulette i used to play the suicide martingale on R/B always tanked and serious loss..... when i entered this forum i never knew roulette could actually played in so many ways like RANDOM vs RANDOM.....  :twisted: love this forum..... thnx guyz

subby

Regards
Subby

Bcboilermaker

hello.

ive read this thread from back to front multiple times. and the question of how to play zero is asked a few time. and sure i understand that you can cover zero through a betting progression that is fine. but what I would really like to know is how zero is tracked/recorded prior to the betting.

is zero just written down and tracked with in the grid?
count it as a high number?
or completely ignored?

thanks
Work Hard!

Johnlegend

Quote from: Bcboilermaker on Oct 28, 02:35 AM 2012
hello.

I've read this thread from back to front multiple times. and the question of how to play zero is asked a few time. and sure i understand that you can cover zero through a betting progression that is fine. but what I would really like to know is how zero is tracked/recorded prior to the betting.

is zero just written down and tracked with in the grid?
count it as a high number?
or completely ignored?

thanks
You accept the zero is part of the challenge and play on. If it makes up a quad that quad is VOID. But if it gives you a loss by coming in one of your betting steps. You accept it. All my methods are designed to survive and prospur in spite of the Zeros existence. Its never going to stop me winning overall.

Bcboilermaker

Work Hard!

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