I'm a bit divided on this. Here we have these forums to discuss roulette and possible ways to make a profit from methods. Just recently I had two members of this forum make a reference to Voodoo and Nostradamus. Question is, is all of this discussion futile (even the VB talk) even if you achieve some success in finding working systems?
Any methods which win is working at that time. I try hard to find different ways, but I am aware I will never find a system which blind follow will win all the time.
I do not think anybody have found it, it can not be kept secret, if ever used. Nobody can play secret on line or at a landbased casino.
Anyhow there are people winning, some a lot, so if you happen to use the right method for the outcome, you will win, in that way it is pure luck, as you never can know the details of future spins.
You know for sure, the numbers will show, but when?
I believe its better to know the game, use some methods, than bet random.
I use voodoo methods, do not care much about it, if I win its OK.
Proof
I'll speak only for me. (You knew I'd speak, didn't you!?)
This search/banter/arguing/co-horting and generally having a good time on this forum makes my life a better experience. I use my brain more in one day that a lot of people my age use theirs in a year.
As I've said before, serious play results in having a low-paying part-time job. Maybe some day--when Vegas goes on line--I'll play some serious baccarat or roulette if they have a single 0 and make some serious money. As it is I bet dimes and .50 Euro at most.
There are ways to make money at roulette--even the dreaded 00 wheel. I've seen it done. It's a tad harder on the 00, but it can be done. The no zero at BV is wonderful. Basically red and black are player and banker.
The point in searching for a working system is to shut up all the people in your life who laughed at you. The point is buying something nice with your efforts. And having fun. If it ain't fun, why bother?
TwoCatSam
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 08, 11:15 PM 2012
I'm a bit divided on this. Here we have these forums to discuss roulette and possible ways to make a profit from methods. Just recently I had two members of this forum make a reference to Voodoo and Nostradamus. Question is, is all of this discussion futile (even the VB talk) even if you achieve some success in finding working systems?
Depends on the person Proof and their intentions/reasons for their interest.....I made the Nostradamus comment imagining your frantic output. It never crossed my mind that he made predictions and was making stuff up randomly in a Voodoo way.
I studied chess for 25 years. i enjoyed the study more than playing. When I lost, I bought a new book..studied a new opening. In the end I loved chess...not winning at chess. i was happiest after a loss. I could regroup and study again.
I love casinos and casino games. I was throwing craps dice in my garage last night...getting a feel for it.
Theres nothing better than having an idea and trying it out at the casino and winning with it.
If you loose its exciting. You can go away and think of a fresh approach. The exciting study again!
I spend most of the day playing real money (yes i am retired) I use small units, but some methods i try will have use for many of them.
I have normally winnings every day. Average is 50 Euro(excluding bonazas), Biggest loss 18000 Euro, the most winning in 24 hours 220000 euro (I did not get all as I did not read the max allow winning in a day). I am not pro, as I am not dependent of money from the game, but it has been more than I got as retired the last few years.
I do not count myself as addicted, its a interssting thing, and I have never use other money than winning for the last two years. Lucky? YES EXTREMLY!!!!
I switch the way of playing, as I think a method will fail (wear out) find new ways is very fun.
Ralph.....was 220,000 Euro a typo?....did you mean 22,000
I was posting my play, start before high stake,I was up from 3000 to 22000, I start a thread
"I spin I want more" You can see the photo of the game, truth all, I am not a skilled photoshopper.
Some has said it may be funny tokens, I reply "Can you do it with funny?" I did start small, and got a great flow. 0.1 becomes 1 which becomes 5 aso.
I was lucky to get 14 doz in a row, rise one at the time, and the winnings I spend risky, nothing more than the beginning to lose, a possibility to go straight to a life winnings! I DID!!
Be aware you may have had 15 wins in a row, and flat bet?? LET IT RIDE.
I've said many times that this has been journey a lot of fun. Getting to know you guys, even superficially, is interesting. I like seeing your personalities shine out from your interaction with each other. Okay, some of you cause me to bristle occasionally, but that's life.
I have stated my reason for starting this search. I feel pretty sure that with what I've learned about playing roulette I have a very good chance of achieving my goal. Flatinos system is one I will mention.
I agree with Ralph. You must have an arsenal of systems to use depending on what's happening on the wheel. You won't always pick the right system, but if you can pick right most of the time you can come out ahead.
I like TCS and Ralph's way of playing for small unit sizes while learning the game, and even after you've learned about all there is to know. It's more interesting to play for actual money when testing systems than doing it on paper. But you don't want to risk too much when testing.
I have a set amount of money that I will invest when I can eventually play legally on-line on a live wheel. If I lose that investment, I will hang up the "Gone Fishing" sign on the door and that'll be it. Win or lose, it will have been worth the journey.
TCS is right. This study has helped me use my brain more in one day than others my age do in a week.
All I can say is stay in control of yourself, have fun and never play with money you can't afford to lose.
GLC
***never play with money you can't afford to lose.***
My old friend, Coussin Gonflable wishes to borrow my keyboard. Go Coussie..........
Hoooooooooooboy! I tell you one something. That GLC got that one right!
That's it??
Well, there you have it!
Sam
Right on the nail,Sam,
My mind is quicker and brighter now then 10 years
ago.....all these combos,18 numb.roulette,lol,memorizing
formulas and numbers in the middle of battle,all kind of
quick changes.....well I feel younger now...in my head thought.
And btw-5,30 this morning swim untill 7.00 non stop.
And I'm 73........LOL
F
Can't read that yellow. You are........
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 10, 05:24 PM 2012
F
Can't read that yellow. You are........
Sam
Press left mouse button on the begging of last sentence and pull to the end to the right...
And number you see should be red from right to the left in this case 8)
Cheers
Drazen
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 10, 01:26 PM 2012
Right on the nail,Sam,
My mind is quicker and brighter now then 10 years
ago.....all these combos,18 numb.roulette,LoL,memorizing
formulas and numbers in the middle of battle,all kind of
quick changes.....well I feel younger now...in my head thought.
And by the way-5,30 this morning swim until 7.00 non stop.
And I'm 73........LoL
amazing personality! :thumbsup:
Thanks Drazen...
I put in my own word.....
Horny!
LoL
TCS
Depends on the person Proof and their intentions/reasons for their interest.....I made the Nostradamus comment imagining your frantic output. It never crossed my mind that he made predictions and was making stuff up randomly in a Voodoo way.---Turnerfeck
I was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel, Dublinbet Palace wheels 1 & 2 and Dublinbet wheels 1 & 2. Within a sector of say 10 neighbors, I would record the most hitting numbers and trying to exploit that phenomenon. I learned wheel biases are temporary (the casino could move the wheel or do maintenence (or change wheels) and the bias would dissappear, so the system wouldn't work.
**********I was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel,********
Does Bet Voyager have a real wheel?
Sam
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 08, 11:15 PM 2012
I'm a bit divided on this. Here we have these forums to discuss roulette and possible ways to make a profit from methods. Just recently I had two members of this forum make a reference to Voodoo and Nostradamus. Question is, is all of this discussion futile (even the VB talk) even if you achieve some success in finding working systems?
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I have never seen or read about a working roulette system at any roulette forum.
QuoteI was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel, Dublinbet Palace wheels 1 & 2 and Dublinbet wheels 1 & 2. Within a sector of say 10 neighbors, I would record the most hitting numbers and trying to exploit that phenomenon.
You did not search for a wheel with bias you search for hot numbers.
I know bias and it takes allot more then collecting numbers to spot one.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 14, 09:35 AM 2012
**********I was testing wheel bias in several online wheels: BetVoyager American wheel,********
Does Bet Voyager have a real wheel?
Sam
I meant BetPhoenix Sportsbook (Live American Wheel)
Proof
What is the minimum single-number bet at Bet Phoenix?
Sam
(BetPhoenix) for single numbers $1---but you have to make at least $5 total bet/spin on inside numbers
Thanks
I was hoping for a dime!
Sam
Quote from: ego on Aug 14, 09:50 AM 2012
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I have never seen or read about a working roulette system at any roulette forum.
--Couse you don't read all as assured of your claim.--btw-are you playing roulette
at all, or you only study it as a hoby.Some here claim that are winning constantly
with your E/C approaches.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 14, 01:44 PM 2012
--Couse you don't read all as assured of your claim.--by the way-are you playing roulette
at all, or you only study it as a hoby.Some here claim that are winning constantly
with your E/C approaches.
The truth is simple i can not read them all and yes i play roulette - but not as regular as others.
Yes roulette is a hobby and i spend 6K and got my self my own wheel - that is how i learn the game.
If any one have success i am happy for them.
Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 10, 08:13 AM 2012
I studied chess for 25 years. i enjoyed the study more than playing. When I lost, I bought a new book..studied a new opening. In the end I loved chess...not winning at chess. i was happiest after a loss. I could regroup and study again.
I love chess too. In fact every time I get a good win from roulette I spend some or all of the money on another chess set or board or clock, but mostly sets.
I have about 50 sets now, Ivory Stauntons, Jaques stauntons, one Ivory Lund with 4 1/2" kings (its a beauty), a special 5" king St. George set, A superb antique WMF silver plated staunton style set, bone sets, horn sets, bakelite sets, metal sets, tagua nut set, modernist plexiglass set, chinese, burmese, indian, mexican, novelty, nuts & bolts, so many sets and almost all bought with roulette winnings. :)
I would love if the Forum could get to the point where someone could say (I remember a user named Poit did this a year or so ago). "I've been doing analysis of Roulette #1 @ Dublinbet and (a particular secton *don't remember exactly*) would have profited us +4000 over three months if we bet $1 per number"---that some users would take a serious look at the online wheels availiable and see overall what is hitting (and what isn't).
What is the point?
You said yourself that this type of bias is temporary or could be changed/removed by casinos. All bias is probably temporary by the way.
But seeing as you mentioned it, over the last few years I have been keeping an eye on Dublinbet #1. I believe the 17.34.6 section repeats a bit better than average. I haven't done any conclusive testing or monitoring, but when I'm playing and I see 17 or 34 or 6 hit, I sometimes bet that section and will continue to bet that section until they all drop off the marquee (10 spins minimum).
Check it out over a period of time and let us know if there is any advantage to be had.
Cheers.
"Check it out over a period of time and let us know if there is any advantage to be had."---Skakus
I don't have the tools. However, I'm sure someone here has the tools and the spins to make a comprehensive assessment.