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Title: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 02:55 PM 2012
I was in frond of the RX and thought about an idea.
This idea turned up to be a very profitable(at least it was profitable in 1000 betting spins).
(I don't know if this has ever posted it before)

The system takes advantage of the anomalies of the table and with the special progression it seems to be winning a lot. I ll post it for you and you can give it a go.(Sam a new system for you to make some more cents :) )

Its a very easy system and you don't need any recording and stuff.

Bet Selection

The bet selection is steady.
We are always betting in every spin Black + Even + 3d Column
But we are betting with this amount of chips:
The Ecs 2 chips on them and the Col 1 chip .
So we have 2 chips on Black   2 chips on Even  and 1 chip on 3d Col....This is our starting point.

(I tested in 50.000 spins with the auto RX option all the bet selections of the anomalies of the table and this is one was FAR safer than the others...ofcource it can be altered to the opposite combination with the RED inside but logic say that are the same so stick to this one that I posted)

The Progression

Progression on a losing spin
1) When ONLY 1 Ec wins we are adding 1 chip on all 3 bets
2)When only the Col wins we are also adding 1 chip on all bets(in this occasion we can just not progress and leave teh same amount of chips for the next bet..test both ways)
3)When all 3 bets are losing we are adding 2 chips on all bets. So zero is also a loss on all 3 bets.

Progression on a winning spin
1)When the 2 Ecs are winning we are  doing- 1 chip on all bets
2)when 1Ec and the 3d col is winning we are doing -2 on all bets
3)When all 3 bets are winning we are doing -3 on all bets

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT :
When we are in a new Profit we are resetting to 2 2 1 chips(starting point) no matter where the progression was.

Its very simple.

Recommended BR is 300 chips.But as F_LAT_INO say the bigger BR the better.

Enjoy
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Ralph on Aug 20, 03:03 PM 2012
A bigger bankroll makes you stay in harder winds, but nothing stand a hurricane, soon if you are lucky after your time, it should have been a bust.

At my age I have an advance   ;)
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 03:38 PM 2012
Sure . This applies to all systems
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 04:28 PM 2012
530 spins +331

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Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Shadowman on Aug 20, 09:24 PM 2012
MOP

Would you by chance have a screen shot of the 50 000 spin graph that you did flat betting, at all please as i dont currently have rx available to me and I would like to see what it looked like. If not dont worry.I just wanted to look at something to see if i could think of another progression.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 09:40 PM 2012
sorry i haven t photoshoot the graph of the 50.000 spins of the bet selection flat.

it was losing like all flat bets but it lost a lot less than the B O 3d col .
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 10:33 PM 2012
I have GREAT news!
By modifing the system the wins becomes a lot bigger and the losses a lot smaller...

I need a RX coder to test it in a lot of spins.


so far testing 1000 spins ended up with +1007 chips! In all the play the profit were always close to +1 chip per spin on average...
The max down was only -173 chips. This means that with 173 chips we would have made 1007 chips!

I am wating for a RC coder to respond in order to give the system....as I can see no one is intrested in manual testing.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 10:42 PM 2012
The RX code must have the choise to put a BR and play untill it bursts.
I think with a 200 chips BR there is a chance for it to win more than it can lose on the long run(more winning sessions than losing ones)
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 20, 10:46 PM 2012
Master

I've played this for an hour or so today.  Started with .01, then .10, then .50.  Won about 20 Euro real.

Thanks.

One thing I'm doing (and always do) is quit the moment I'm one unit up and start over from the initial bet.

Will try more tomorrow and post.

Sam
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 20, 10:50 PM 2012
""One thing I'm doing (and always do) is quit the moment I'm one unit up and start over from the initial bet.""

Yes Sam this is something that I have already posted in the method.

Do NOT play any more with the method that is posted!
Its a nice method BUT the new one that I modified is farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better...
Less BR(downs) and more profits..massive ones.

When we will have the code we will put it to the test.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 20, 10:54 PM 2012
Guv'ner, I appreciate that good advice, but I kinda like this little idea.  I'll fiddle around with it until the new one is posted.

I never blame anyone if I lose a couple of skins playing their system.

Sam
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Ralph on Aug 20, 11:48 PM 2012
Played this manual for about 300 spins, you can come pretty down. 
It can be good to shift  to the red/odd if we get few blacks.

I have played 1/3 + 1/2 + 1/2 using  odd, red and a doz before, which make it possible to switch
between the doz using a select on. Progression the same.

As long it runs not too bad, it can produce about 1 unit a spin.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: MuppetMan on Aug 21, 12:36 AM 2012
I like this little system. Interested to see the new adjustments.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Juiced91 on Aug 21, 01:52 AM 2012
You can pm it to me or post it here and I will get around to it sometime today on rx.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 21, 01:59 AM 2012
Juiced,

What software is RX.
I see everyone talking about it but dont have a clue :)
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: jarabo002 on Aug 21, 02:23 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 21, 01:59 AM 2012
Juiced,

What software is RX.
I see everyone talking about it but don't have a clue :)


RX = Roulette Xtreme


Basically, it is a software to test roulette systems, but has other uses.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 21, 02:46 AM 2012
aaah okay thx :)

its not for free i suppose :)
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Ralph on Aug 21, 02:48 AM 2012
I have trying to download RX, but the security programs warn me to start it.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Turner on Aug 21, 04:52 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 21, 01:59 AM 2012
Juiced,

What software is RX.
I see everyone talking about it but don't have a clue :)
Its a roulette sim. Basically u can download a free trial and get 40 or so tries.its cheap to buy..£18. U can download real spins and practice or run systems. Www.uxsoftware.com (link:://Www.uxsoftware.com)
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 06:34 AM 2012
Ralph changing bet selections can t help in any system.(Gambling fallacy)
The point is to bet the most numbers according the anomalies of the table.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Ralph on Aug 21, 07:20 AM 2012
If you not can make  GF useful, its very boring to play, and you will not win more in any case.

Anomalies  can not be predicted without use of GF,

Statistical methods are not winners, history lessons like GF.

Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 07:23 AM 2012
Ok if you can turn the GF into a winning method then be my guest.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Shadowman on Aug 21, 07:52 AM 2012
MOP

thanks for your response,  no problem re screen shot.  I know that it loses as any other bet selection, however i was intrigued by the fact that you said that is the "safest" of your trials with different selections.

I was wondering if you can elaborate on this aspect eg.  were there less peaks and troughs or did it just lose at a slower rate or........ I am just trying to establish as to why it would be a "safer" option as I would have thought that there would have been no difference over 50 000 spins, however perhaps you are onto something, and if you are then I am sure that something can come from it.

I also tested your original method manually,  with my spins it seemed to be up and down like a whores drawers,  but followed a similar graph to the one that you showed.


Mike
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Ralph on Aug 21, 07:58 AM 2012
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 07:23 AM 2012
Ok if you can turn the GF into a winning method then be my guest.

All methods are GF, they try to find something "due".

Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 08:57 AM 2012
I agree
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: vladir on Aug 21, 10:53 AM 2012
Have you tried a positive progression aproach when winning?
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 11:06 AM 2012
no but in 8 years of recearch i have confirmed thai if a system is losing with a negative prog then its also losing with a positive.

the 2nd version of the method unfortunalely didn t work...Sam continue playng this one if u like
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: jarabo002 on Aug 21, 11:14 AM 2012
Is there two versions?


I only see one of them, in the first post.




Anyway I think its a smart and a very solid method. If we could set up in betting or a stop-loss (in my test 300 units is pretty good), you could get away with this system. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 21, 01:11 PM 2012
thanks jarabo...we need more testing.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: jarabo002 on Aug 21, 02:55 PM 2012
...also 30 units of máximum bet in even chances, or 29 in the third dozen.
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: xxlakis on Aug 22, 03:19 AM 2012
10000 NZ
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: topcat888 on Aug 22, 09:22 AM 2012
Here's a small sample from DB table 1 this afternoon... didn't go so well.

Please check my actuals in case I got it wrong...?

[reveal]
5
20
15
1
18
35
23
34
6
21
6
0
7
6
13
35
16
9
36
24
1
23
6
26
21
11
29
5
34
22
11
10
9
23
27
33
20
22
2
33
20
23
4
16
25
8
21
20
12
8
8
12
4
29
8
24
15
24
13
26
15
33
28
29
19
17
25
17
30
20
23
22
33
4
11
26
27
11
31
9
22
36
23
36
18
11
34
20
33
12
7
5
13
19
32
24
28
5
24
10
12
18
20
34
2
0
10
8

[/reveal]
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 22, 09:30 AM 2012
there is no need my friend to check the actuals.
Even if u didn t wrong it doesn t matter.
It s is proved from testing that the system can t make profits on the long run.
This means that no matter how many chips we will win as we start playing it ,soon or later we will give them all back and lose more
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: topcat888 on Aug 22, 09:37 AM 2012
oh ok.....  next.!  ;D
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 22, 10:31 AM 2012
yes next unfortunately
Title: Re: The SURROUND system
Post by: Master_of_pockets on Aug 22, 10:34 AM 2012
I would like to say thanks to the members that followed and gave feedback to the topic.
In my opinion this is the correct way for a forum to be productive.

Now I must think and test of another system  :D