For those of you who might be interested I would like to repeat Brett Morton`s 22 numbers for inside play as posted at the other VLS board 4/21/2009.
3 units dbl street 1-6
3 units dbl street 10-15
3 units dbl street 22-27
3 units corner bet 28/29/31/32
TAMINO
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
What kind of money management would you apply ...
What kind of bet selection would you apply ...
For more details I cannot speak for Mr. Morton. I know that his system ( with the single 0 wheel in mind) is very similar to Mr Patrick`s 22 action numbers for the 0/00 wheel
Those 22 numbers are well distributed around the wheel with never more than 2 empty clicks in between.
The only difference is the corner bet with Patrick recommendiing 2 units..Each position will return a net win of 7 units. wheras the return at Morton`s is lower at the double streets and higher on the corner bet due to the 3 unit position.
Progressions for inside play ? That I would leave to each individual player or by checking the book of the author (s) regarding their recommendations ..
Ditto for money management. There nobody will listen any way. What`s the use to explain.
Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
My progression here is one up on a win, down to start after a loss.
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 05, 09:33 AM 2012
For more details I cannot speak for Mr. Morton. I know that his system ( with the single 0 wheel in mind) is very similar to Mr Patrick`s 22 action numbers for the 0/00 wheel
Those 22 numbers are well distributed around the wheel with never more than 2 empty clicks in between.
The only difference is the corner bet with Patrick recommendiing 2 units..Each position will return a net win of 7 units. wheras the return at Morton`s is lower at the double streets and higher on the corner bet due to the 3 unit position.
Progressions for inside play ? That I would leave to each individual player or by checking the book of the author (s) regarding their recommendations ..
Ditto for money management. There nobody will listen any way. What`s the use to explain.
Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
ND
Its surprising that you can not offer any real strategy since you posted this method long time ago at VLS forum and claimed to have win ratio of 2 out of 3.... ;D Did i miss anything? Ok maybe that you aimed to win at this ratio but you always claimed to be ahead. And betting on a regular basis on more than half of the numbers of the wheel seems to be a disaster in a opinion of most of seasoned players flat or with any prog. ;D
I make it a habit to win 2 out of 3 sessions. At a single 0 wheel mmy edge is22 over 15 and at the 0/00 it is 22 over 16.
I am always aware that any of those 15 or 16 numbers is my potential enemy. I am playing under the strictest rules for loss limts, win goal ( but not win limit) a certain number of losses in a row as signals when to terminate as session.
With all thse safe guards it is possible to lose 3 sessions. Well then it was not my day.Tomorrow is another day.
One might lose the first session win the second as well as the third session and you know what you will find that you have broken even. BE content with that result
What matters is DISCIPLINE to know when to quit......... either Up or Down.
TAMINO
HAPPY BWINNINGS!!!
Robeeenhuut,
If you thought I exaggerated please refresh that particular post of that date and publsh it verbatim.
In addition I would like to ask any one who is challenging any of my posts to review my win and loss statements which I had given for 2008 and 2009. at the VLS board. There I can be found as Nathan Detroit.
P.S. I am not wasing my time to search the archives either. The date of Morton was on my file with his 22 numbers.
TAMINO
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 05, 10:32 AM 2012
I make it a habit to win 2 out of 3 sessions. At a single 0 wheel mmy edge is22 over 15 and at the 0/00 it is 22 over 16.
I am always aware that any of those 15 or 16 numbers is my potential enemy. I am playing under the strictest rules for loss limts, win goal ( but not win limit) a certain number of losses in a row as signals when to terminate as session.
With all thse safe guards it is possible to lose 3 sessions. Well then it was not my day.Tomorrow is another day.
One might lose the first session win the second as well as the third session and you know what you will find that you have broken even. BE content with that result
What matters is DISCIPLINE to know when to quit......... either Up or Down.
TAMINO
HAPPY BWINNINGS!!!
Fair enough ND. We i guess come from a different school of betting. They could be both effective. ;D The end result is what counts.
Good luck
Is it me ....or are these incredibly naive ways to bet. Crude identical table coverage, what ever the circumstances.
Then again...what do i know :thumbsup:
It is easy to win 3/4 of the sessions, if you end on plus, and save the loss in one. It is not the same as winning a session and winning.
And we have to look at time, in a period which can go for month, we can have luck. It use to catch up losses later, take care.
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 06, 08:06 AM 2012
Is it me ....or are these incredibly naive ways to bet. Crude identical table coverage, what ever the circumstances.
Then again...what do i know :thumbsup:
We would gladly clarify what is puzzling you if you kindly would restate your question in more detail.
What is in your opinion a betting maneuer without naivete`. We are all ears.
Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 06, 08:34 AM 2012
We would gladly clarify what is puzzling you if you kindly would restate your question in more detail.
What is in your opinion a betting maneuer without naivete`. We are all ears.
Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
It just reminds me of the way i used to approach roulette like i had found some magic formula that works for all roulette scenarios.
Ive done far better once i left the magic world of turbogenius roulette systems to actin on very recent information.
Like in chess, pushing a pawn or controlling the centre may be fundamentally correct actions....but not in the particular position you see before you. I am starting to realise the similarities between chess and roulette
The current position you see on the maque denotes how you play.
Static systems like this dont let you afapt to the changing position
Hope that explains where i am at
Turner
Statistics,Shmastistics, trends , patterns, charting, shmarting all are meaningless.
Just make the first bet for the method you want to use. You either come out ahead or you lose.
That`s why playing at a casino is called gambling .
Above all select a glamorous casino,with good restaurants, evening shows , and charming c***tail waitresses, and you are in seventh heaven.
P.S. Don`t forget to play a few spins at the table.
That`s what I call living .
Tamino.
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 06, 12:47 PM 2012
Statistics,Shmastistics, trends , patterns, charting, shmarting all are meaningless.
Just make the first bet for the method you want to use. You either come out ahead or you lose.
That`s why playing at a casino is called gambling .
Above all select a glamorous casino,with good restaurants, evening shows , and charming c***tail waitresses, and you are in seventh heaven.
P.S. Don`t forget to play a few spins at the table.
That`s what I call living .
Tamino.
Good on Ya!
I have made it my business to only plat systems by bonafide gambling authors like Frank Scoblete , Brett Morton, or John Patrick.
I have never played any method posted at any forum.
Tamino
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 06, 11:59 AM 2012
It just reminds me of the way i used to approach roulette like i had found some magic formula that works for all roulette scenarios.
I've done far better once i left the magic world of turbogenius roulette systems to actin on very recent information.
Like in chess, pushing a pawn or controlling the centre may be fundamentally correct actions....but not in the particular position you see before you. I am starting to realise the similarities between chess and roulette
The current position you see on the maque denotes how you play.
Static systems like this don't let you afapt to the changing position
Hope that explains where i am at
Turner
What he said :thumbsup:
Cheers
Roughy
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 07, 06:48 PM 2012
I have made it my business to only plat systems by bonafide gambling authors like Frank Scoblete , Brett Morton, or John Patrick.
I have never played any method posted at any forum.
Tamino
There was never any successful method in these books but i guess its a pretty safe bet that these gentleman made some money at least from the sales. And some methods from these books were posted on various forums. ;D
WHO said anything about successful methods? .
There NEVER was and there NEVER nill be a pepetual winning system.
Those systems in their books are the best in opinion of the author and it is up to each individual to decide which ones to play.
The books do not come with a NANNY to tell us when to get away from the table. That`s expecting a bit too much.
Just like here some people expect a proposed system to be spoon fed to them. No difference.
Tamino
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 08, 08:01 AM 2012
WHO said anything about successful methods? .
There NEVER was and there NEVER nill be a pepetual winning system.
Those systems in their books are the best in opinion of the author and it is up to each individual to decide which ones to play.
The books do not come with a NANNY to tell us when to get away from the table. That`s expecting a bit too much.
Just like here some people expect a proposed system to be spoon fed to them. No difference.
Tamino
My point was that these books are not better or worse than anything posted here or on other forums. Nobody should expect to find a complete DIY method anywhere. Its just that people expect more from a product that comes with a price tag. ;D
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 08, 08:01 AM 2012
Just like here some people expect a proposed system to be spoon fed to them. No difference.
Tamino
Theres nothing more spoonfed than buying a book for $12. You expect more because its a purchase. Judging by the amount of members here, you will probably find by average, most people who post ideas here have read all those books and being disatisfied with them, and try making up their own idea. There are some clever people here, and everyone is a teacher. We never know everything. Sometime we have to listen to something "we" invented ...read back to us...to see our failings.
lol....the amount of times I dragged my friend over to show him what I had written on the guitar and he just said...errr...thats Whole lot of love...Led Zepplin, or....Pink Flloyd mate.
I only learned to run purely because someone had already taught me to walk. I never made a single thing up in my life. Its all aquired knowledge.
By the way Nathan....you say "just like here " like you dont feel at home here!
Oh yeah in 1981 there were plenty of roulette forums available. One just needed to surf for gambling forums.
Maybe the chances in those days were 100% better in the back rooms of the local City Mission.
Just like in Guys and Dolls.
N.D.
Those authors are just excercising their rights in a free market economy. Somehing wrong with that ?
Those cats might charge 20 Dollars per book in contrast to thoseOne shot system sellers who are degenerate losers and are tyring to recoup their losses finding enough suckers.
You know darn well what I am yalking about. Right now we have a guy here who is " phishing" for ideas then for a possible system scam locks his thread never to be opened again.
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 08, 09:56 AM 2012
Oh yeah in 1981 there were plenty of roulette forums available. One just needed to surf for gambling forums.
Maybe the chances in those days were 100% better in the back rooms of the local City Mission.
Just like in Guys and Dolls.
N.D.
****WHO is JOHN GALT ?******
John Galt was a guy who found a Holy Grail of roulette and was rumored to take his secret to his grave. But in 19th century they did not have a durable way to store an info so i guess his secret is gone. So the search continues. ;D
ROFLMAO.
I awlways like a wise man who knows ALL the answers.
Good Luck and Good Bye.
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 08, 11:40 AM 2012
ROFLMAO.
I awlways like a wise man who knows ALL the answers.
Good Luck and Good Bye.
A wise guy is usually associated with a mob. He does not need to know all the answers
. But my english is unfortunately my third language so i apologize for any possible miscommunication ;D
Regards
We certainly not know who is right before the ball has landed!! :)
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 08, 12:07 PM 2012
We certainly not know who is right before the ball has landed!! :)
The casino Ralph ;D
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 08, 11:40 AM 2012
ROFLMAO.
I awlways like a wise man who knows ALL the answers.
Good Luck and Good Bye.
To set the record straight I posted
wise man NOT wise guy.
So please no more wise cracks.
That`s the second time you misquoted me.
N.D.
As an offshot I would change the unit size at the four corner bet to 2 units.
This way all 4 positions are equally returning a net win of 7 units.
The suggested change 3-3-3-2
The original 3 units on each of the betting positions would have resulted in a net win of 6 units for each of the 18 numbers within the double street positions and net 15 units win for each the four numbers of the corner bet.
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Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!