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Title: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 06, 06:30 AM 2012
Played just very low stakes, trying to avoid strong progressions.
It adds up, never risk over 200 cent on a bet.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 06, 01:09 PM 2012
Some more of the days play
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: jarabo002 on Sep 06, 01:21 PM 2012
Congratulations! It looks like you have learnt to win consistently.


How do you do it? ;)
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 06, 01:29 PM 2012
I do different all the time, its probably just luck.
Today I use positive progression, and some kind of marty, there I spreed the stakes over more than one EC, hoping to hit low/red/even to come out.
The biggest win today was an attack on an American wheel, put 0.6 Euro around zeros and got a lot of hits, I raise the stake a bit after a hit.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 04:27 AM 2012
Played this in bed before I went for breakfast! This time I used 0.1 chips as well as 0.01.

Experimenting i real mode to isolate repeating numbers (do not know if it is working yet!)
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 08:32 AM 2012
Continue the play up to dinner, still not a loss!
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 11:58 AM 2012
The play this afternoon. Very easy game, got early hits.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 02:36 PM 2012
Still very good, one close to go out of hand, but did not.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: GLC on Sep 07, 04:00 PM 2012
I hate to be the one to point this out Ralphie ole buddy, but if you aren't going to share with us how to join in on the fun, why are you posting these stats?  I've struggled with lust all my life and now you're tempting me to lust after results like these.  My wife's ticked off at you.


Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 07, 05:16 PM 2012
Yes the last 100 sessions (or may be some more) has one loss, but it was baccarat.

I think it is luck, but how much luck are there? 

I have posted I think all what I do, not only this result, but how I try different ways.

I mostly play straight ups, using the lastest shown numbers. I use sometimes all up to 18, and hope for many to repeat.  Sometimes I use just one straight up, bet it until I hit one or more times.  The details comes with GF (Gut feeling).
I do not follow strict rules, I can bet the same number flat 200 times, sometimes I add a chip on a hit.

On Even chance's I use  slow progressions both negative and positive.
It can be Guetting  two bets should win before next step. If one loss, try to cancel or if win
two times, continue the steps, if two losses , start all over. If an early loss and no plus, change
to Oscars grind for one unit.

If negative progressions I look at three bets, If three or two wins, start all over.
If three or two lose rise for the next three bets to 2 or 3 depending on the loss.

Try in this three bets to recover. Next step is 4 or 5, 6or 7....


I use an averaged martingale. First one on LOW, if win redo it. If lose one on LOW and one on EVEN.  If one lose and one win just spin again. If both win start over, if both lose,
Two on LOW and two on EVEN.

Next step is 3 on LOW 3 on EVEN 3 on RED.

The progressions after that depends on the outcome, You can win on all, start over,
You can win on two, spin the same bet. You can win on one add just whats needed.
If you lose all, add equal on all three bets.

You will come out if all three wins, or two wins in a few spins.

I do some other ways too, and I will continue post, as soon I feel the way is useful.

(The play still goes well, not a loss today, and about 10 more sessions of average 10 Euro plus).

Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 08, 03:02 AM 2012
We know higher negative progressions can eat on the bankroll. Playing progressions softer, and long time between hits or on an even chance bad streaks can do the same, one up and one down, can be a lot of chips. If we have 30 chips on the stake, it may be hundreds of chips back to recover. The even out can take long time, if ever.

Playing a single straight up, and recover all loss in the first hit (like martingale) will  take a large bankroll, and even hit the table limit.  A single straight up method must last for sometimes a lot more than 100 spins. The progressions are not likely to work for a sleeper. We can have a hope, a long sleeping number may hit more often waked up, and some methods wait for the last sleeper of 37 to do so.

I want to avoid if possible to bet on a sleeper, but you can never avoid it will be so.

I bet without any progression until it hit, regardless if it will not cover previous losses, so to keep the stakes down, and be able to last until it hit.

After the first hit I add a chip, and go for the next hit.
When I get plus (up to now every time), I go back to the starting stake.
The same number I use to run a few times, some numbers will be very active.

The bet selection is last show, or a number hitting two times as shown on the marquee.

I attach pictures of the last session, that looks as an average session, not too long time between hits.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 08, 09:07 AM 2012
The sessions tody , yet no loss.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 08, 04:27 PM 2012
Some more play before I go to bed!  Still running well!
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 02:50 AM 2012
This is the morning play from bed!!!
Using straight up bets of the last shown.
units 0.1 Euro.

In all my pictures the sessions overlap, so you can see all are won.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 06:29 AM 2012
Some other play, using seven straight up from last shown numbers.Got pain in the right hand from all clicking, take a break.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 09:06 AM 2012
So the starting bankroll of 180 Euro is now 2020 Euro, took three days. Not a single losing session.
The method is not finish yet, I see some problem, I will try to fix, to make it safer, and when a loss will come, it should be far less than the winnings between them. It just may be possible, not sure at all.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 09, 09:47 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 09, 09:06 AM 2012
So the starting bankroll of 180 Euro is now 2020 Euro, took three days. Not a single losing session.
The method is not finish yet, I see some problem, I will try to fix, to make it safer, and when a loss will come, it should be far less than the winnings between them. It just may be possible, not sure at all.

Congrats  Ralph. I think maybe we should have a contest here between you and JL. You both got to 2k from around 100 units.  ;D
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 10:12 AM 2012
JL and I play different, he is sure the method can not fail, which I am not sure of mine. Next time it may be not so easy. He publish the history from the same casino, as I do.

He takes some more time to reach his goal, may be due to the foolproof system needs more tracking.  I post how I do as well.

It use to work fine for me, but I am aware it is not for granted.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 09, 10:25 AM 2012
Quote from: Ralph on Sep 09, 10:12 AM 2012
JL and I play different, he is sure the method can not fail, which I am not sure of mine. Next time it may be not so easy. He publish the history from the same casino, as I do.

He takes some more time to reach his goal, may be due to the foolproof system needs more tracking.  I post how I do as well.

It use to work fine for me, but I am aware it is not for granted.

Its cool Ralph. Not many people on this forum to my knowledge play that much online with 0.01 or 0.1 stakes as you do. Its interesting to have a different perspective on things. And recently you deliver the goods with different approaches.   ;D   U got my attention.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 10:45 AM 2012
After your post I did a play this time in fun mode, as I have a play going on in real.

I took 100 Euro fun to the account, and start play, after not too many spins I got 25 plus.

I send pictures of the numbers, and the detail play history.

The ground chip is 0.1, and I use seven straight up, with some positive progression.

This is not what I allways play, but similar to this, I change a bit as the wheel seems to run.

Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 09, 02:22 PM 2012
This was very nice repeating on zero, Near all hits on Zero, soft positive progression.

1 Euro stake net become 170 units. Bet on seven straight up.

5 minutes and 19 spins.
Title: Re: Pennies stake
Post by: Ralph on Sep 10, 09:03 PM 2012
To night I reach 4000 Euro from the starting 180. The last session could blow out 3800, it was down to 200 when it start hitting. It was very close, this time it worked out, but maybe not next. It's allways hard to set a stop/loss.

Played seven straight up, with a progression reached about 15 Euro on each.

I will continue, but go down to smaller stakes, this one I used 1 Euro, and that's probably high for
the bankroll I currently use. It's now about 200 sessions without a loss, so a bad run is to be expected.

In next RFH I may stop at half the winnings lost.