Thought I'd pose this question. If you found the Grail what would you do with it?
A). Would you sell it?
B). Would you leave the forums?
C). Would you brag about having it?
Just three examples of responses, but all are welcome :)
If you mean on Grail as some mechanical system , that doesn't exist.
So what would you consider grail anyway mr. Proof?
Cheers
Drazen
i will share it to those who have 500+ post or 3yrs old member :d
and have and agreement that we wont brag about it because roulette might be remove from casino
Its probably not possible, but if, the casinos would change the rules to work around. How keep it secret for the casinos? If ever played, the monitor it, on line and off line.
As soon it will be known, you find roulette which can stand it.
I bet no one answers simply A, B or C.
Doh!!!!!
We now of methods never lose, but not methods allways win. It is no secret, the casino knows it will not hurt them.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 13, 08:47 AM 2012
Thought I'd pose this question. If you found the Grail what would you do with it?
A). Would you sell it?
B). Would you leave the forums?
C). Would you brag about having it?
Just three examples of responses, but all are welcome :)
Hello Proofreaders
A) I won't sell it.
B) I won't leave the forums because a human been is always looking for better.
C) No problem to tell some people I trust ( but no brag )
Cheers
John Rotterdam
I do not know how I will do, to be sure it works in the long run, I have to test it until I am dead, as all other do.
Probably I will brag on fora, why should I not do something which is common on all fora.
I think I start to tweak the double on loss system, may be can be something.
Why wait to sell, before fully tested, nobody else selling do.
Great question, and the answers are difficult too...
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 13, 08:47 AM 2012
A). Would you sell it?
B). Would you leave the forums?
C). Would you brag about having it?
A) If I discovered the grail, I would make enough money with it
B) Yes I would continue the forums
C) Hell yes I would brag about it, (I've just created something that no man could do) and even tell others.
Fact is, if you have the grail - casino's might
A) Kick you out (get banned everywhere)
B) Change the games rules and parameters
C) Remove Roulette completely
This then brings other questions to light
A) What other casino games are flawed?
B) Are there other games that people are playing with their grail
C) Couldn't think of another one but just had to put something stupid here :xd:
My 2c
Cheers
M
Quote from: Maui13 on Sep 13, 01:18 PM 2012
B) Change the games rules and parameters
U hit the Nail on the head Maui
It never had to be a holy grail in the past to make the casinos change the rules: just a slight advantage to the punter. For example, the introduction of the CSM, Continuous Shuffling Machine, to blackjack and bacarrat
Proof
I second the question: What do you consider the "Holy Grail"?
Sam
I don't have any or recommend any that are "foolproof".
Winkel's GUT and Mr J's "Twos Company" are my all-time favorites
(as far as hopes of a win)
I would sell it ASAP ;D The buyer would be entitled to lifetime free tweaks. There are no altruistic successful gamblers.
I would play roulette with it.
I would buy Krug Champagne with it.
I would buy real estate with it.
I would hide great wads of money from my wife with it. >:D
I would collect 18th century Italian violins and cellos with it.
I would buy antique chess sets with it.
I would be very tempted to make it public just to prove it can be done. Anyone watching my EC Money challenge? >>> Hello? :-X
Quote from: Skakus on Sep 14, 02:34 AM 2012
I would play roulette with it.
I would buy Krug Champagne with it.
I would buy real estate with it.
I would hide great wads of money from my wife with it. >:D
I would collect 18th century Italian violins and cellos with it.
I would buy antique chess sets with it.
I would be very tempted to make it public just to prove it can be done. Anyone watching my EC Money challenge? >>> Hello? :-X
Yeah but its boring. Your z-score only goes up. ;D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 14, 02:43 AM 2012
Yeah but its boring. Your z-score only goes up. ;D
;D
If I had the grail, I would play with it, but not too much, so to stay under the radar. With the winnings, I would play other games until I hit a jackpot :).
When I had won enough to live the rest of my life decently enough with all current + future expected expenses covered, I would leave my job, keep winning some money with this "grail under radar method" and use the extra to finance some projects that I believe can (and will) change the world for the better for everyone. This projects will develop anyway, it would just be faster if money is invested in them. Some of them will render the monetary system completly obsolete one day - once we have a huge surplus of clean energy generation over energy consuption, for example. I would also share it, strictly under the following conditions:
1- Play it under the radar, or it's game over for everyone.
2- Don't be greedy! When you have enough winnings (lets say more then 100.000 in plus and a decent life), start investing money improving other peoples lifes - technology projects, environment protection, charity organizations, education, etc... your choice, as long as it brings development for as much people as possible in the world... People really need to get this, because it's actually pretty logical when given some tougth about it - the better the community is arround you, the better you will be , and everyone arround you. And the "community" is the whole world. Nature knows no frontiers, and this planet is everyones home.
3- You can only share this with people who really understand and will comply with this 3 rules. Yes it's a matter of trust. For starters, greedy and/or over-ambitious people should not get their hands on something like this.
Of course it would only work for some time... Eventually casinos would catch up on the losses and determine they were comming from roulette, once a critical mass of players used it. But by then, I think we could have already, at least, changed our lifes, and maybe the world itself ...
Quote from: Skakus on Sep 14, 02:34 AM 2012
I would play roulette with it.
I would buy Krug Champagne with it.
I would buy real estate with it.
I would hide great wads of money from my wife with it. >:D
I would collect 18th century Italian violins and cellos with it.
I would buy antique chess sets with it.
I would be very tempted to make it public just to prove it can be done. Anyone watching my EC Money challenge? >>> Hello? :-X
Ur keeping the wife then?
I got it and i keep wining and playing and loosing some and spending the money. I keep being a middle class citizen and i share it with my friends and we are all winning with it.
Besides that i brag that i can win and people just do not believe, and as i do, i don't feel the need to prove it to anyone. The most difficult step was to prove it to myself, anyways...
I just do not play enough times to get stupidly rich.
O0
All I got to say is, :thumbsup:
Some advice from the net to be a winner:
"Anyone can play a normal Roulette game, but if you wish to make a mark as a professional it is important that you are familiar with the game play and betting systems of all the major variants, such as Russian Roulette, European, American and so on."
I just believe the Grail is right under our noses and it wouldn't be that hard to implement, like a number that tends to hit more than the others on average.
There are always a few numbers that get waaaay more hits then the others.
Yesterday in played ralph's method with 7 numbers, i had nr 11 that hit 18 times in 100 spins.
But you never know what number is going to hit most in a session ...
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 16, 12:44 AM 2012
I just believe the Grail is right under our noses and it wouldn't be that hard to implement, like a number that tends to hit more than the others on average.
All of us had Holy Grail at some moment. Some for as long as few years.. ;D
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 16, 01:10 AM 2012
There are always a few numbers that get waaaay more hits then the others.
Yesterday in played ralph's method with 7 numbers, i had nr 11 that hit 18 times in 100 spins.
But you never know what number is going to hit most in a session ...
That is 18 chips or 17 chips on 11 last time x 37. :thumbsup:
This is right done, do not stop to early on a small plus close to break even, some runs can gain a lot.
You never know then the bad run take it back, that is so.
I got more 265 sessions in ten days total 14000 Euro, must then keep the worse runs in less than that when it comes.
Among this I got one loss on baccarat o 9.81.
All roulette is a win, some hard and deep downdrown at max 1000 Euro and some more,the longest about 1000 spins.
It is no grail, still gambling!