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Title: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 02:21 AM 2012
Progressions while they works, is a standard way to reach a winning goal. The winnings use to come, until it fails expency. I got a run which  wiped out 70% of the last ten days wining.

Still anyhow on plus for that time, but a RFH can come soon again.

Testing now ways to make it without heavy bet, and see if it can be done safer, if winnings are smaller is not an issue, I have to not lose, if you have won, you want to keep the most.

The test is on an early stage, real play I did this morning 311 spins, and  went plus 282 units.
Did not need to stake more than 1 unit a spin this time.

It is a tweak of my earlier post, which try to go plus using several hits.

Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 20, 02:33 AM 2012
looking forward to your tweak at your "magnificent 7" like Sam says :)
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 02:59 AM 2012
I may take some time to get it proper, You need to see some problems, to make changes.
I got a loss which could buy a new smaller car. Still a third of the last 10 days left, it is in a way not strange, some runs are loss, and the loss is that you put on the table. I have had some before, but I am still very well on plus.

I did  296 more spins, and this time 70 units plus. I never had to progress, using one unit a spin.



Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 04:17 AM 2012
The third test went 50 plus in 320 spins. Still not any progressions, it is one unit on a straight up, up to now flat bets.

Total 431. in about 1000 autospins.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: dino246 on Sep 20, 04:28 AM 2012
Hi Ralph.
Your idea sounds interesting.
Flat-bet all the way then !!!
Hope we can test it soon.

Cheers.
Dino.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 05:09 AM 2012
This session had a sleepy number, first hit at 235:th spin. I had to progress, started at spin 300.
All 398 spins total betting on all spins  797. Plus at end  397.
Max six units on a spin.

Total 828 units.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Maui13 on Sep 20, 05:22 AM 2012
Hi Ralph,


I'm assuming you're playing RNG or are you getting this info from previous spins?


Regards,
M
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 05:23 AM 2012
This is short, I will start over later when I got the time.

47 spins total betting all spins 47. Plus 63

Total 891.

I test in real mode using 0.01 chips, if passing the test it would probably be 0.5.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 05:24 AM 2012
Quote from: Maui13 on Sep 20, 05:22 AM 2012
Hi Ralph,


I'm assuming you're playing RNG or are you getting this info from previous spins?


Regards,
M

It is low stake real play at BV Eu wheel.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Maui13 on Sep 20, 07:21 AM 2012

So how long does 1 sping take on BV Eu wheel?


Because sitting for 398 spins will take almost 5 hours assuming your spins takes 45 seconds.
Just a question. It seems your method sometimes goes quick and sometimes take long.


Regards
M
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: superman on Sep 20, 07:49 AM 2012
QuoteSo how long does 1 sping take on BV Eu wheel?

2 to 4 seconds depending on their server and your connection
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Maui13 on Sep 20, 08:34 AM 2012
TA Superman - So for 398 spins at 4 seconds you'll be coining in under 30 minutes!


Now that's gambling! if this method holds up!!!   :thumbsup:


Ralph - share this beast!
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 09:45 AM 2012
Using autospin and stop then should, makes about 20 spins/minute.

I am not ready with it yet, but I do not hide, You will see all test result and I will tell you all how I do.
Not yet sure if it is something  very usefull, time will tell.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 20, 10:03 AM 2012
is there a reason why you dont play on the no zero table ?
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 10:14 AM 2012
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 20, 10:03 AM 2012
is there a reason why you don't play on the no zero table ?

I did before, when I could have 10 Euro as maxbet. Now I use more a zero wheel, since they changed the commission rules. It was 10% on winnings at withdraw, now it is on winnings each session, which can not pause more than an hour, and not last more than a day.
If I win a session, they take 10%, if I then lose, stop and start a new and win, they take 10% of winnings. So if you win and lose and win again the commission may be more than 10%.

The only way to pay 10% as before, is to stop at plus every session.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 10:41 AM 2012
More result, straight up on number 8.
198 spins. Bet total 271, plus 235.

No progression god hit rate.

All total 1126.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 11:13 AM 2012
Straight up 25. Took many spins before a hit, progression used.

205 spins, Total bet 1208, plus 520.  Could maybe wait some more spins before progressing.

All total  1645.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 11:44 AM 2012
This got some progression straight up Nr 17.

All total 1819

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Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 20, 11:50 AM 2012
How do you select your number to bet on ?

is it the first repeater or just chosen lucky from the start ?
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 12:26 PM 2012
I try first shown, and sometimes first repeating. I do not know yet if a bet selection will help.
If it is possible to find a number hitting at least every 35 spins, WHAT WE HAVE THEN?
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 12:33 PM 2012
Session with number 12, needed progression, sleeping long before some hits.

All total  2044 units. Not to bad in a day playing rather conservative.

Most of us should be happy with this, on a 0.5 Euro unit size.

Will do more testing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 20, 11:25 PM 2012
This morning tests. I have to think more about the progressions, they go not too far, but they could if the hits delay. Still the total betting ratio to winning is not bad.
This is an important figure, the total betting is exposed to the unfair odds of the game, and then we should try to suppress it, so the  total bets divided with the won amount are as small as possible.

All total 4198   
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 12:30 AM 2012
This got a long sleeper, the progression went far higher than the testing intentions. I did here a progression aimed a recover in one hit. The result is good, but due to a lucky hit  soon after a step in the progression. This could maybe be a winning waiting for an other hit soon, but who knows.

Win ratio to total bet is OK.

Al total in test: 10553
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 01:54 AM 2012
This were sleeping long, but hitting back to back.

All total 10806 plus.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 03:20 AM 2012
This time I tryed two numbers, quite good hit rate. The two numbers first swonn in session.

All Total 10961 plus.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Maui13 on Sep 21, 03:33 AM 2012
Ralph - share the system!


Then we can be more people testing it out with you. Because your results are very good indeed!


Regards,
M
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 04:22 AM 2012
Quote from: Maui13 on Sep 21, 03:33 AM 2012
Ralph - share the system!


Then we can be more people testing it out with you. Because your results are very good indeed!


Regards,
M

I do not know more yet than everbody can read here.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 04:26 AM 2012
This test using four numbers, went plus, but I would like lower stakes.
It went to 100x in the progression.



All total  14251.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 04:48 AM 2012
An other test using three numbers. The progression were max three on each.

All total 14571
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 07:50 AM 2012
This test is a bit longer than the stat says, I got a lost connection to the server.
three number 23,26,32

Al Total  14883
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 08:06 AM 2012
Testing 16 numbers, can see it is to many. Need more than average hits anyhow. A miss cost and a win will be less. I think seven and below is the better.

Total all 1551
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 08:47 AM 2012
Running number 3 a long sleeper, con action to server broken 2 times. The spins are far more than shown in stat, as it lost count while server cut me out.

The plus went to 1784, highest bet 128.

Total all: 16835
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 09:08 AM 2012
Running zero slept well over 150 spins, got two hits, one just after a higher staking.

Total all: 17759
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 09:24 AM 2012
This is the last session continued. I assumed zero will cluster as it were sleeping last session.
Then I decide to stake higher, and got some nice hits.

All total 25360.

I will investigate cluster more in the coming tests.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 10:06 AM 2012
A bit more risky play, but allways never risk more than this test allready won. I thought of betting zero again, one unit until hit and then a progression, assuming it will hit faster next time.
If in average every 37, which is 66% chance, it may cluster after a sleep.

All total  27013.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 12:10 PM 2012
Continue betting on zero, progressing and got one hitt just after higher stake.

All total 28958
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 12:28 PM 2012
Play single straight up on zero again, slow progression, and hitting.

Total all: 29771

Using ground bet at 0.01 it is 297.71 Euro.
Title: Re: Testing softer straight up method.
Post by: Ralph on Sep 21, 01:04 PM 2012
An other game, I lost some in the start, went down to lower stakes, and then made it higher at the time i guessed it may hit, zero again.

Total  32214

I will pause a while from this testing, 322 Euro won.
I have to think a bit more how to try to find clusters of numbers.

Luck was probably the main reason it went as it did!