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Title: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 02, 02:47 AM 2012

T - Original concept started by Twister
D - Pushed and morphed by Dino
M - Also morphed by Maui


The original method is called
One Dozen Plz ? in this forum.


After many alterations many people were a bit confused as to what the rules are. So I've decided to start this new topic, with clear rules for this method. (Twister & Dino - please help where I miss something as I did join the party a bit later)


Please feel free to contribute.


312 - 1st line - This becomes our trigger
132 - Bet against 3rd dozen forming - Win on 1st bet
231 - Bet against 3rd dozen forming - Win on 1st bet
132 - New trigger line.
221 - Bet against 1st dozen - Win on 1st bet
233 - Bet against 1st dozen - Win on 1st bet
xxx - New trigger line


So we wait for a trigger, and play 2 lines against the trigger line.
In my testing (1000 numbers Random.org) I found to skip lines with 111,222,333 as your numbers to bet against. A dozen can run for a while so stay away!




I then also found that if you cover ZERO with 1 unit  for every 1st spin of the - that it give more back than what it takes BUT you don't have to cover it.


Don't use lines in them with zero. Example


2   1   2 - New trigger line
1   2   1 - Bet against 2nd dozen - Win on 1st
1   0   3 - Bet against 2nd dozen - Win on 1st - Ignore the zero, as we won on the 1st.
2   3   1 - New trigger line
3   3   0 - Bet against 2nd dozen - Win on 1st bet
0   3   2 - Bet against 2nd dozen - ZERO (if it was covered - score) bet against 3rd dozen, bet against 1st dozen - Win on 3rd
3   3   2 - New trigger line


Another Example


2   3   1 - New trigger Line
2   2   1 - Bet against 2nd dozen, Win on 2nd bet.
3   2   1 - Bet against 2nd dozen, Win on 1st bet
1   1   1 - SKIP THIS LINE (111,222,333!!!)
0   2   1 - Bet 1st bet only for zero - hit BUT skip line (if you're covering zero)
2   2   3 - NEW Trigger line
2   2   2 - Bet against 2nd dozen, Win on 3
2   1   3 - Bet against 2nd dozen, Win on 2


I'm still not sure which progression works bet and whats the safest. I think Twister/Dino might have an answer there.


Regards,
M :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 02, 02:56 AM 2012
Phew....great explaination. Its exactly how i got it.
9-9 is a risk. Gonna see what results flat vs 1-1  3-3 do.
Turner
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Robeenhuut on Oct 02, 03:12 AM 2012
Few people play against 4 wide matrix if all dozens show up in it.
So 1223 is ok but not 1221.  It was posted before.  Dreaded 1,3,9,27 progression ;D
Yeah its reality.  2 step 1,3 i dont think will do. Basically each possible 2 Dozen progression
was discovered but the search still continues and  some even consider flat betting.
The problem is that in any double bet selection the strike is not there so basically 1,3,9,27 is only
way to go if you can risk 80u. You can win few hundreds in a row as JL demonstrates.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 02, 04:03 AM 2012
Maui, this is a great idea

Thanx for setting out the rules for this Version  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Oct 02, 04:39 AM 2012
Sorry to disappoint you,but must tell you this idea was tested about 6 years ago/Sam may remember/
and didn't show positive results in the long run.by the way no method on 11,33,99,2727,basis could ever work,except maybe JL ideas where you wait 60-80-spins for a trigger,and even then it is not sure.
Twister idea betting same way on 1 dozen/reccommended in cycles/would be much safer and profitable.Just my 2 uncles.
Anyhow you continue testing and find out...maybe you come to some tweak we old heads couldn't
find at that time.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: ZigZag on Oct 02, 07:30 AM 2012
Thanks Maiu, Twister and Dino.

I been playing Twisters original version betting on 1 dozen only and using the six point divisor tracker you can find in the roulette software page.

Single dozen, I have the target on the divisor set to 4 for a less agressive approach  :thumbsup:

If i lose a full line i wait for a line to have a match again. Then continue on next level of progreassion set by the divisor.

Only been playing it for a few days but this has worked for me so far and avoided a number of long losing streaks of 3-4 lines in a row where no dozens are matching

Will report back if it tanks :wink:

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 02, 09:33 AM 2012
That's great Zigzag - let us know how it goes!


I was looking for a progression and FINALLY found it!


GLC - "The Legend of progressions" posted a progression on this site, I went looking and found it.
There is a bit of a twist to it, but let's see if he approves!  :thumbsup:



You play TDM exactly like the rules are stated. Using the below progression.
When you lose, you need to move one step to the right, and push for a DOUBLE win, then reset back to 1/1 - total needed for progression is 160 units. If this fails - call it a night.


1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4, 5/5, 7/7, 9/9, 12/12, 16/16, 21/21


What makes this very powerful - is the strike rate of TDM + this progression!


I've tested about 1000 spins with very very good results!


The same as any system, it will fail eventually - but what I've learned from a couple of very intelligent individuals is that the combined successes is what is important....not the hand full of times that you fail!


Regards,
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 02, 09:56 AM 2012
Maui....please explain "push for a double win"
Perhaps an example.
Turner
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 02, 10:25 AM 2012
Turner (499th post  :twisted: ) - step the progression to the right....until you have 2 wins in a row.


For example


1st Bet - 1/1 - LOST
2nd Bet - 2/2 - WIN
3rd Bet - 3/3 - WIN
4th Bet - Reset back t o1/1/


So - when you lose step progression to the right. until you have 2 consecutive wins.


Hope this makes sense?


Regards
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 02, 10:30 AM 2012
Quote from: Maui13 on Oct 02, 10:25 AM 2012
Turner (499th post  :twisted: ) - step the progression to the right....until you have 2 wins in a row.



For example


1st Bet - 1/1 - LOST
2nd Bet - 2/2 - WIN
3rd Bet - 3/3 - WIN
4th Bet - Reset back t o1/1/


So - when you lose step progression to the right. until you have 2 consecutive wins.


Hope this makes sense?


Regards
M
Cheers...i get it
Woooo...500 posts of absolute rubbish...lol
Turner
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 02, 10:31 AM 2012
And an extra feckin star loll
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 02, 12:45 PM 2012
Hey Maui......Great idea to Spin-Off YOUR Concept from Twister's thread.

Will do the same with MY Concepts INSPIRED by both you and Twister.

Nice of you to include ME in the initial's TDM.....it's a bit like a Badge Of Honour !!



Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 02, 03:05 PM 2012
Dino - really give this one a shot with the progression I added.


I'll have my test sample 1000 spins done tomorrow - I think I've worked through about 600 spins all the way in profit!


Let me know!


Ciao
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 02, 04:13 PM 2012
You know Maui,if the Strike-Rate IS that high then SURELY,no need to go further in the Progression than 1-1  3-3.

Ok...so 8 units are lost....yet i have found to date,that is easily paid back from all the other winners.

Will continue to evaluate.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 02, 06:32 PM 2012
here is a concise example of Mauis progression by GLC

I think its quite awesome to watch. I don't give a toss if it tanks. I think this progression is a beautiful thing....(LoL...getting all teary eyed about a progression)

look at how many first line hits!

213
322 1/1 +1
323 1/1 +2

330 void

112
232 1/1 +3
322 1/1 +4

112
312 1/1 +5
311 1/1 +6

211
231 1/1,2/2 +6
223 3/3, 4/4 +4

321
121 5/5    +9
232 1/1   +10 (48 spins)

212
311 1/1   +11
332 1/1   +12

133
231 1/1   +13
123 1/1   +14

331
212 1/1   +15
212 1/1   +16

323
221 1/1     +17
331 1/1,2/2 +17

233
222 3/3,4/4   +15
123 5/5       +20 (93 spins)

An emotional....Turner
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 03, 12:24 AM 2012
Very cool!!! If you had to sit for 90 minutes.....end up with +20 ...wouldn't that be a good days work? I've had it a couple of times that I end with +3 after just 4 spins. 1st bet is a loss, 2nd bet is a win (so now we're even) and chase the double win - and because of the strike rate - you start your 1st bet of the second line with a win - so now you're +3  :thumbsup:


The progression is cool, I love how it catches up. It does however lose a unit or 2, when you are using 7/7 the 9/9 etc. but those differences are eaten up by the profit you're making. It recovers most of your losses.


The latest test session, the 2nd dozen was sleeping for 20 spins - didn't even matter! The method took care of that and the progression just brought in profit!


Great work Turner!
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 03, 12:19 PM 2012
Seeing that everyone is in doubt about all the systems floating about, I took it upon myself,
to also take on a little personal challenge. This isn't to prove anything to anyone, but just to myself.
The reason for this is that I feel there is merrit in this system - so this is that YOU my friend out there don't have to waste money until I show you it works.


I'll be keeping track on excel (yes old manual input) I'll will start with 160 units and will try and make 5 units with each session. I'll do screenshots of the starting balance + the session end.


NOTE - due too circumstances this test will happen on RNG  :'(  but lets see how this cookie crumbles.


Regards,
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 03, 05:55 PM 2012
 We must report our bad results. its as important as bragging our wins.

I name this session....."The Tank"
Speilbank spins on RX
111

333

123
322 1/1 +1u
311 1/1 +2u

223
233 1/1,2/2 +2u
333 3/3     +5u

322
133 1/1 +6u
223 1/1 +7u

232
111 1/1 +8u
211 1/1,2/2 +8u

231
222 3/3,4/4 +6u
211 5/5,7/7 +3u

103

210

322
302 9/9,12/12,16/16 -71u
3   21/21 -113u
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 04, 01:29 AM 2012
Hey Turner


Ouch! Does not look very nice! I just went over the numbers and mine looked different - also tanked, but with a bit less! Where did you dig out these numbers?  :wink:


Here it is...added as Excel.


I get - 81 total? (Progression ends at 21/21) Anyway - yes it tanked, but I would have like to use say 1000 numbers before and say a 1000 numbers after - purely because I believe I would have been high enough in the + that this would not make a difference. We have bad days - and if I was sitting at a table with these numbers - I would get up and leave to return the next day. Maybe also playing hit and run - push for +5 and that's it...then it would also have worked.


Thank you for the figures. I will just work harder to refine it!


Regards,
M





Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 04, 01:33 AM 2012
Apologies - just went over it again...(in a rush for work so looked over the last one)




Ends at - 113


Ciao
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 04, 02:59 AM 2012
Keep up the good work Guys....

Re; The TANK session.

IF Zero had been covered @ 12-12 then you would have won.


Just a thought......


Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 04, 03:15 AM 2012
Quote from: Maui13 on Oct 04, 01:33 AM 2012
Apologies - just went over it again...(in a rush for work so looked over the last one)
I know the exact numbers. Will post tonight. On my phone right now
Turner




Ends at - 113


Ciao
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 10, 04:12 PM 2012
Haven't posted for a while....been busy with all sorts...
But took the leap of faith and opened an account to test this...


And...DRUM ROLL....touch wood...I've made a couple of units.
Yes the units are small...
Yes real account


But so far so good!  :thumbsup:



Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: KoolKat on Oct 11, 03:05 AM 2012
Quote from: Maui13 on Oct 10, 04:12 PM 2012
Haven't posted for a while....been busy with all sorts...
But took the leap of faith and opened an account to test this...


And...DRUM ROLL....touch wood...I've made a couple of units.
Yes the units are small...
Yes real account


But so far so good!  :thumbsup:

Maui13 How are we playing this now, is it still the opposite? K
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 11, 04:09 AM 2012
Yup, playing opposite!


Give it a shot for pennies and see how it goes. BV no Zero helps a lot!
Only thing I don't like is putting down pennies just for spinning.


Regards,
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 11, 10:35 AM 2012
Hi Maui.

Good to see thread restarted.

Still a great system/concept,but yet to be convinced on the progression.

I would always cover Zero with this type of progression.


Best Regards.

Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 11, 02:01 PM 2012
Hey Dino,


Yeah agreed - seems like progression kills any system  :xd:


I'm currently playing it on BV no Zero table and that seems to help a bit! So I don't have to cover 0
Only playing small stuff, but just getting to grips with it.
I'll post my results once a week, good or bad.


Cheers man!
M



Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 12, 02:06 PM 2012
Here we are Maui,another profitable session.....what's new !!

Just re-confirm i'm still playing your concept as you planned it......thanks.

At present i cover each bet with Zero and only bet 1-1,3-3 as 9-9 is too big to recover.

Dozens only.


131  T
232  W1
032  W1  (ZERO COVERED)

232  T
121  W1
323  W1

121  T
323  W1
303  W1

122  T
223  W1
222  W1

123  T
302  W1
311  W1

223  T
111  W1
230  W2

211  T
123  W1
303  W1

133  T
313  W1
122  W2

221  T
211  W2
312  W1

212  T
232  W2
222  W2

311  T
107  W1
221  W1

303  T  (NO BET DUE TO ZERO)
132  T
123  W2
322  W1

222  T  (NO BET DUE TO 222/333/111)
221  T
233  W2
312  W1

W1 = WON 1ST BET.

Above session played online at Supercasino Airball.

Many Thanks for ALL the PROFIT made to date with YOUR concept Maui !!!!

Also to Twister who INSPIRED both myself and Maui to INNOVATE at least two further concepts
from his original Topic/Thread.


Best Regards.


Dino.



Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 12, 02:11 PM 2012
Fantastic Dino!!!  :thumbsup:


Good to hear! Are you playing it for real money or for fun?


I've also had some magic results. I do however play it with the progression in reply 6.
But - either way, as long as you're comfortable, and as long as it brings in results you're hoping for!


Yes, thank you to Twister who inspired us both for some creative thinking!!!


Cheers
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 12, 02:28 PM 2012
Yep......for REAL.

I play Airball the same as Live-Dealer B+M with £5 chips and £1 on Zero.

Will MOVE-UP to £10-£10,£30-£30, soon.

Taking the decision to LIMIT the progression to 1-1,3-3 and losing ONLY 6 units (plus Zero cover) = a bigger stake for me with a lot less worry !!

I would NEVER play any concept Autowheel/RNG.


Cheers.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 12, 02:51 PM 2012
HECTIC!!!


If you don't mind me asking....what was your starting bankroll? and what is it now?
And are you playing any other method together with this?
What is your target units per day, and how many games do you play?


M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 12, 03:18 PM 2012
With all the Matrix systems that have appeared over the last couple of years i was prepared to risk £500 to STAY or GO.

That amount increased to £850 after experimenting/playing different concepts.

I took some loses using prog 1-1  3-3 9-9 hence not a BIG increase.

NOW i only play your concept to 1-1,3-3.

I tend to play 3 sessions online during the day,then 2 sessions at my local B+M casino ( i have 2 about a mile away)

Minimum profit was 3 units and max 20 units.

NOT had a losing session since i have played ONLY your concept.

My ultimate plan is to take this all to the London Casino's ( i joined 7 in 2000)

Also to give a % of the winnings to my local hospital as a thank you for the repair job they performed on my Heart-Valve in may last year.


Cheers.

Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 12, 03:28 PM 2012
I take my hat off to you sir!!!  :thumbsup:


Just shows the type of gentleman that are on this forum!


Well done Dino, and I hope that the "roulette fairy" continues to hold her hand over you!


Cheers
M



Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 12, 03:47 PM 2012
Hey Maui.......you've given me a great idea.

For the Poppy Appeal on 11th November i,m going to bet your concept and EARN 50% of ALL WINNINGS for the appeal during the WHOLE 24 hours of that Day/Night both online and B+M.

Will report the RESULT.......good or bad !!!


Cheers my friend.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 14, 08:39 AM 2012
Live Dealer B+M Dozens.

222  T  NB DUE TO 111/222/333
321  T
233  W2
321  L

322  T NB DUE TO SKIP THIS LINE AFTER LOSER.
222  T NB DUE TO 111/222/333
133  T
233  W1
322  W1

133  T
113  W2
331  W1

113  T
313  W1
322  W1

022  T  NB DUE TO ZERO
221  T
331  W1
212  W2

222  T  NB DUE TO 111/222/333
312  T
122  W1
332  W2

312  T
232  W1
132  W1

312  T
132  W1
211  W1

211  T
121  W1
312  W1

T=TRIGGER

W1,W2,W3=WON 1ST BET etc.

As most bets win W1/W2=1-1/3-3 might be best to NOT go to the third bet=9-9.

Take the loss of 8 units and/or recover 2-2/6-6.

This is how i'm playing Maui's Concept with great success.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: ewarwoowar on Oct 14, 09:09 AM 2012
Looks good dino, thanks for posting.
After a loss are you waiting for a virtual win?
I'll post some more sessions later.

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Turner on Oct 14, 09:16 AM 2012
Quote from: dino246 on Oct 14, 08:39 AM 2012
Live Dealer B+M Dozens.

222  T  NB DUE TO 111/222/333
321  T
233  W2  <<<<W1?
321  L

322  T NB DUE TO SKIP THIS LINE AFTER LOSER.
222  T NB DUE TO 111/222/333
133  T
233  W1
322  W1

133  T
113  W2
331  W1

113  T
313  W1
322  W1

022  T  NB DUE TO ZERO
221  T
331  W1
212  W2

222  T  NB DUE TO 111/222/333
312  T
122  W1
332  W2

312  T
232  W1
132  W1

312  T
132  W1
211  W1

211  T
121  W1
312  W1

T=TRIGGER

W1,W2,W3=WON 1ST BET etc.

As most bets win W1/W2=1-1/3-3 might be best to NOT go to the third bet=9-9.

Take the loss of 8 units and/or recover 2-2/6-6.

This is how i'm playing Maui's Concept with great success.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 14, 09:47 AM 2012
Thanks Turner !!

Makes the W1's even better.


Regards.

Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 14, 09:53 AM 2012
Hi ewarwoowar.

I play Maui's concept 100% to the letter as he instructed,i hope !!

After a Loser he says to skip the next line which i have done,then continue as normal.

Look forward to see your sessions.


Cheers.
Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 14, 09:56 AM 2012
Perfect Dino!


As the progression is not set in stone - kinda like your way of 1/1 , 3/3 and to recover with 2/2 , 6/6!  :thumbsup:


Regards,
M
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: ewarwoowar on Oct 14, 04:55 PM 2012
ok, a session using dublinbet actuals
322 T
131 W1
312 W2

301 NB
332 T
113 W1
303 L (lost using a 2 step progression 1-1, 3-3)

120 NB
312 T
211 W1
321 W2

322 T
231 W1
332 W2

133 T
310W1
013 W2 (or if zero was covered, win on first spin)

333 NB
333 NB
313 T
221 W1
233 W1

113 T
212 W1
212 W1

130 NB
113 T
312 W1
331 W1

122 T
213 W1
213 W1

232 T
333 W1
323 W1

322 T
322 L
132 W1 or maybe we skip this line after the previous loss? i might look at playing virtually until a win.

213 T
231 W2
333 W1

312 T
131 W1
112 W1

322 T
322 L
212 W1 or maybe skip?

212 T
233 W2
321 W1

132 T
223 W1
110 W2

213 T
211 L (again lost using a 2 step prog)
012 L

132 T
131 L
131 L

121 T
313 W1
212 W1

an interesting session and one that shows to me how many first spin hits it gives and also how much rosier this session would look if we did play virtually after a loss, until the first win.
of course, this is just one session and also it's back fitting a method to fit the results, which to some, is not always a good idea.
more food for thought.
cheers.

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 14, 06:41 PM 2012
Wow,you're right ewarwoowar,that session is VERY interesting.

Covering Zero helps get rid of two Losers,plus by skipping a line after a loser also Destroy's another loser !!

Below is how i would have played your session,as per Maui's insructions.

322  T
131  W1
312  W2

301  T  DNQ DUE TO ZERO
332  T
113  W1
303  W2  DUE TO ZERO

120  T  DNQ DUE TO ZERO
312  T
211  W1
321  W2

322  T
231  W1
332  W2

133  T
310  W1
013  W1  DUE TO ZERO

333  DNQ
333  DNQ
313  T
221  W1
233  W1

113  T
212  W1
212  W1

130  DNQ
113  T
312  W1
331  W1

122  T
213  W1
213  W1

232  T
333  W1
323  W1

322  T
322  L
132  SKIP THIS LINE AFTER LOSER
213  W1

231  T
333  W1
312  W1

131  T
112  W2
322  W1

322  T
212  W1
212  W1

233  T
321  W1
132  W1

223  T
110  W1
213  W2

211  T
012  W1 DUE TO ZERO
132  W1

131  T
131  L
121  SKIP THIS LINE AFTER LOSER
313  W1

212  T


I believe Maui stated that he had NEVER seen two losers in a row as i have not....provided i ALWAYS cover Zero playing two Dozens with £5 chips with £1 on Zero.


Hope this helps.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: patola on Oct 15, 02:37 AM 2012
Hi, does this system work on Columns?
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 15, 07:06 PM 2012
Hi Patola.

For me Columns SHOULD act the same as Dozens,yet many players stay away from Columns.

To answer your question,only once to date have i seen the following.

312  T
312  L
312  L

That happened on betting the Columns.

NEVER seen it YET on Dozens.


Cheers.

Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: VegasArick on Oct 15, 07:44 PM 2012
This should work the same on "00" Wheels too right?
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 15, 07:48 PM 2012
"00" wheels should be ok,just glad we only have to cover "0" in the UK !!!!

Cheers.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 15, 08:25 PM 2012
Please everybody out there in Casino Land,with RESPECT to this PROFIT making Concept that Maui has kindly given us.....TRY NOT to play this on either RNG or AUTOWHEEL as i don't believe you get CLEAN results.

All my stats to date are playing B+M Live Dealer or Airball(B+M or Online).

As a little aside to cater for my Paranoia,when playing on a Live table i ALWAYS place the bet AFTER the Croupier has spun the ball !!!!

Just get out there and make MONEY.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: patola on Oct 15, 11:23 PM 2012
Hi Dino, got another question...

What is your recommended bank roll and winning target per session for this?
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Robeenhuut on Oct 16, 02:06 AM 2012
Quote from: patola on Oct 15, 02:37 AM 2012
Hi, does this system work on Columns?

If it works on dozens it should work on columns but some people are superstitious about columns or they think that playing  HIGH/LOW is better than RED/BLACK.  They usually test few games and if they lose more often on one selection they go with the other. Guess what happens later... ;D
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: martinnng on Oct 16, 08:32 AM 2012
I'm sorry guys for my question, but:
When the trigger comes, I have to bet on one dozen or two dozens in this system?
Thank you.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: ewarwoowar on Oct 16, 11:24 AM 2012
another session using dublinbet actuals:-
213 T
213 L
113 SKIP
112 W1

131 T
321 W1
222 W1

111 NB
322 T
232 W1
131 W1

122 T
232 W1
232 W1

212 T
321 W1
121 W1

213 T
112 W1
332 W1

211 T
222 W2
131 W1

232 T
313 W1
133 W1

332 T
131 W1
311 W2

213 T
313 W1
122 W1

133 T
132 L
213 SKIP
313 W1

111 NB
133 T
331 W1
232 W1

121 T
323 W1
323 W1

013 NB
311 T
333 W2
231 W1

120 NB
012 NB
123 T
223 W1
123 L

211 T
223 W2
213 L

331 T
311 W2
122 W1
or if we skipped after a loss and still went after 2 wins in a mini session it would look like this:-

213 T
213 L
113 SKIP
112 W1
131 W1

321 T
222 W1
111 W1

322 T
232 W1
131 W1

122 T
232 W1
232 W1

212 T
321 W1
121 W1

213 T
112 W1
332 W1

211 T
222 W2
131 W1

232 T
313 W1
133 W1

332 T
131 W1
311 W2

213 T
313 W1
122 W1

133T
132 L
213 SKIP
313 W1
111 W2

133 T
331 W1
232 W1

121 T
323 W1
323W1

013 NB
311 T
333 W2
231 W1

120 NB
012 NB
123 T
223 W1
123 L
211 SKIP
223 W1

213 T
331 W1
311 W1

122 T

first way = -2pts loss, second way is a 6pts profit. we really are back fitting here and i don't want to encourage the thread to go off like the other one, so that nobody really knew the definitive method, but are we just going for 2 games per mini session or 2 wins?

cheers.

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 16, 01:28 PM 2012
Hi ewarwoowar.

Big session !!

See below your session with my take on how Maui instructed us to play his concept.

213  T
213  L  1-1  3-3
113  SKIP
112  W1

131  T
321  W1
222  W1

111  T  DNQ
322  T
232  W1
131  W1

122  T
232  W1
232  W1

212  T
321  W1
121  W1

213  T
112  W1
332  W1

211  T
222  W2
131  W1

232  T
313  W1
133  W1

332  T
131  W1
311  W2

213  T
313  W1
122  W1

133  T
132  L  1-1  3-3
213  SKIP
313  W1

111  T  DNQ
133  T
331  W1
232  W1

121  T
323  W1
323  W1

013  T  DNQ
311  T
333  W2
231  W1

120  T  DNQ
012  T  DNQ
123  T
223  W1
123  L  1-1  3-3

211  SKIP
223  T
213  W2
331  W1

311  T
122  W1
213  W1

213  T
113  W1
112  W1

131  T
321  W1
222  W1

111  T  DNQ
322  T
232  W1
131  W1

122  T
232  W1
232  W1

212  T
321  W1
121  W1

213  T
112  W1
332  W1

211  T
222  W2
131  W1

232  T
313  W1
133  W1

332  T
131  W1
311  W2

213  T
313  W1
122  W1

133  T
132  L  1-1  3-3
213  SKIP
313  W1

111  T  DNQ
133  T
331  W1
232  W1

121  T
323  W1
323  W1

013  T  DNQ
311  T
333  W2
231  W1

120  T  DNQ
012  T  DNQ
123  T
223  W1
123  L  1-1  3-3

211  SKIP
223  T
213  W2
331  W1

311  T
122  W1

If only go 1-1  3-3  session ends at + 22

I believe it's 2 games per mini-session only.

Hope this helps,any more questions welcome.

Cheers.


Dino.

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: ewarwoowar on Oct 16, 01:59 PM 2012
dino, the session above i posted twice, ie two different ways.
it's not all one session.
the first session if i encountered a loss at the end of the mini session, i just went straight for a new trigger. i think you skip a line even if a line comes at the end of the mini session.
the second set of numbers (just the same) are playing for 2 w's in a mini session.
i'll look again at your example.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 16, 02:05 PM 2012
Yes ewarwoowar i've just realised my error !!

Your session ended + 15

I always skip a line after EVERY loser.


Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: VegasArick on Oct 16, 07:13 PM 2012
Quote from: martinnng on Oct 16, 08:32 AM 2012
I'm sorry guys for my question, but:
When the trigger comes, I have to bet on one dozen or two dozens in this system?
Thank you.

@ martinnng, this system has us betting on 2 dozens each spin.

If the trigger line = 323 Then spin number four,  Bet on 1st and second dozen. If the 3rd dozen hit then spin 5 bet on 1st and 3rd dozen.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 17, 07:42 AM 2012
Just Logged-out of Supercasino Airball Live.


Great session with no Losers.

113  T
122  W2
332  W1

221  T
323  W1
232  W2

111  T   DNQ
323  T
133  W1
223  W1

311  T
302  W2  ZERO
322  W2

011  T  DNQ
132  T
333  W1
212  W1

233  T
322  W1
132  W1

323  T
130  W1
133  W1

112  T
121  W2
212  W1

231  T
133  W1
210  W2

Session Ends......Lunch.

Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: Maui13 on Oct 17, 08:13 AM 2012
Congrats Dino!!!


Looks like you're running wild with this!


:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: martinnng on Oct 17, 05:41 PM 2012
It is realy very interesting method even I don't know how it can beat the random so successfully..

One question to progression: When I loose (using 1-1, 3-3), the third bet in current line have to be skipped?
- trigger line: XXX
- bet line: 1st spin (1-1) loose, 2nd spin (3-3) loose too, 3rd spin no bet?
- skipped line (because loose)
- bet line 1st spin (2-2) loose, 2nd spin (6-6) ....

Is it right?
Thank you for your reply.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: dino246 on Oct 18, 03:51 AM 2012
Hi martinnng.

Always complete each line....so if W1 we just record the next two spins/dozens.

If we lose 1-1,3-3 again we finish the line so that it shows three spins/dozens.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

Dino.
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: patola on Oct 23, 12:17 AM 2012
Hi dino246, you still using this system? 
Title: Re: The TDM 2 Dozens
Post by: viclimks on Nov 08, 05:05 AM 2012
Any results update guys? :-\