Hello!
I using gaps 4 and more in sixline. Don't needed progression because you win much more than lost.
Very seldom lost.
Need more testing.
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Hello Donik, thanks for sharing.
Image formatted :)
Thanks VLS!
I tested about 700 spins
Win 92 units
lost 5 times=25 units
ONLY FLAT BET.
Need more testing using only 4 gaps and more.
6 gaps and more never lost still. :thumbsup:
NEED MORE TEST.
Cheers.
@Donnik
Hi can you explain how you play please
I bet against creating same interval in any sixline you can see in table above. Like JL method FIVE.
Thanks Johnlegend.
Donki777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777,
Any rhyme or reason for 7777?
I want to hit the "like" button for this system also. Looks great.
We must be careful though, when playing with an 84% win expectation, the losses can hide in waiting for quite a while before jumping in the game with a bang. And, at 5 units per loss, an unexpected rash of losses close together can do some real damage to our profits.
Having said my peace, I still like the initial strike rate. It shows that it can do well just like Nickmsi's latest contribution. Wins can be many before a down turn. That means we should be able to make a very playable system with a few boundaries to keep us away from the Warlocks.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
GLC
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 02, 09:17 PM 2012
Hello!
I using gaps 4 and more in sixline. Don't needed progression because you win much more than lost.
Very seldom lost.
Need more testing.
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Hello Donik,
It looks promising but there is only one problem........I don't understand your drawing.
Would you be so kind to explain what you mean with all the X's and bets.
Thank you.
Cheers
John Rotterdam
Hello Ginger!
6 vertical columns is 6 sixlines.
X in which sixline we got number.
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 03, 05:36 PM 2012
Hello Ginger!
6 vertical columns is 6 sixlines.
X in which sixline we got number.
Hello Donik,
Thank you for your explanation.
I will give it a try over the weekend.
Cheers
John
I played 10 and more gaps.
453 win
42x5=210 lost
Don, If this works playing 4 gaps, why wouldn't it work playing 3-4-5 or 6 gaps simultaneously. In other words if the last gap was 3 why not bet against a 3 gap following. Or if another line has a 5 gap, bet that it won't have another 5 gap next.
This gives us a lot more bets. If we have a 5 gap and our line hits after only 3, the 5 gap is history and now we bet against another 3 etc...
I've looked at some of win-maxx's historic spins and so far so good. The good thing about win-maxx historic spins is that they organize them the way you did for your 6 line chart. Makes it easy to see how the system is working.
Beware, they don't place the zeros in the spreadsheets. They are in the spin results so you have to keep alert so as not to miss a zero. It'll skew the results if you do.
GLC and donik7777 just one small question.
If i see a gap where one line did not hit between five attempts - then next time i would bet that it will show more early with next gap - is that correct.
Is that what the bet selection is based upon.
You pick a gap with a certain distance - when it appers you play next it will show earlyer and not create the same distance gap again.
Hello EGO!
I played against that this be more than before,
f.e. 6 be 7 or more doesn't matter how long.
GLC our goal only 4-5 units. If this strong method you can bet f.e. 100$ or more only if this strong.
And i see we need play with gaps 10 and more - much better results, if you have winnmax table (i test on winnmax there easier check) you can check less lost.
It all depends on the frequency of events when certain events occur rarely it is very difficult to do these random events in a row and still affects a large coverage of 83%.
Please GLC test this if you have time and give results. Thanks.
read this by Winkel (about distances between lines )
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6703.msg62459#msg62459 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6703.msg62459#msg62459)
cheers
Thanks Kattila for the link ... i read it and undertood it all and it put some light on the idea using gaps.
Cheers
Thanks Kattila! How Winkel used that?
No idea how Winkel used that, but i supose he attack one distance after some
absence of that distance and maybe he attack only the first 3 or 4 distances because
this ones hit more often. The true is that is how i play this event (distances) , i attack d1
(distance one) after at least 15 spins of absence, d2 after 15-18 spins....., d3 after at least
20 spins......, d4 after 25 spins of absence. So bet on one double street(line) but always bet
for the distance, so don t bet always same line.
See excel file how i track that distances.
cheers
Tested about 7k spins.
Win 612
Lost 52x5=260
612-260=352 profit.
Don't needed progression!!!, but never double lost if you play with gaps 10 and more.
Somebody can check in winmax.com
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 09, 03:44 PM 2012
Tested about 7k spins.
Win 612
Lost 52x5=260
612-260=352 profit.
Don't needed progression!!!, but never double lost if you play with gaps 10 and more.
Somebody can check in winmax.com
Lines are tricky ones but there is a one line bet that can hold for a very long time (around 100k spins).
Check in around 200 spins if you get any 3 consecutive hits of the same line ;D
I played not only one line, i played 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ,19, 20 gaps never double lost in 8k spins (i saw double lost on 1,2,3 gaps) :)
Hello!
I tested about 8500 spins
My results
Win
1 step - 728
2 step- 59
No lost
Overall- 787 profit
Risk - 35 units
Rate 787/0
Maybe somebody help with test this method.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 11, 02:29 PM 2012
Hello!
I tested about 8500 spins
My results
Win
1 step - 728
2 step- 59
No lost
Overall- 787 profit
Risk - 35 units
Rate 787/0
Maybe somebody help with test this method.
:thumbsup:
Donik
Can you explain clearly your method? I don't quite understand what your numbers mean. I assume that you use 1,1,1,1,1,6,6,6,6,6 progression. Did you win 787 games or did you make 787u profit?
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 11, 02:29 PM 2012
Hello!
I tested about 8500 spins
My results
Win
1 step - 728
2 step- 59
No lost
Overall- 787 profit
Risk - 35 units
Rate 787/0
Maybe somebody help with test this method.
:thumbsup:
I help you test this method in many other ways then you can think of.
If you just make one reply with does rules you apply i will run it with TRNGs from random org.
And i will also show you how to apply this into horse racing.
Cheers
If you saw my first table there i show where you can bet.
Like JL's FIVE but you bet after 10 and more gaps on each lines dont need 2 game trigger.
F.e.
1 line 2 line 3 line 4 line 5 line 6 line
10 gaps 12
4 gaps 8
8 gaps 12 we lost
12 gaps we win 4
14 we win on 2 step
when we have on any line 10 gaps and more we wait on same line when gap reach same number like before we bet against creating same gap.
On example above on 1st line we pass gaps less than 10 and bet we win on 1 st step because gap not finished 10.
On 2 line we lost on 1st step because 12 was repeat and won on 2 step.
Thanks for help EGO!
Did you understand clearly?
Cheers.
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 12, 08:01 AM 2012
If you saw my first table there i show where you can bet.
Like JL's FIVE but you bet after 10 and more gaps on each lines don't need 2 game trigger.
F.e.
1 line 2 line 3 line 4 line 5 line 6 line
10 gaps 12
4 gaps 8
8 gaps 12 we lost
12 gaps we win 4
14 we win on 2 step
when we have on any line 10 gaps and more we wait on same line when gap reach same number like before we bet against creating same gap.
On example above on 1st line we pass gaps less than 10 and bet we win on 1 st step because gap not finished 10.
On 2 line we lost on 1st step because 12 was repeat and won on 2 step.
Now i understand how you play but in 8000+ spins you had 700+ games? It seems that you wait much longer for the game. ;D
I will read this later tonight and add some questions.
When i understand it i will run TRNGs and Hourse Race.
Cheers
Thanks EGO!
I played that not hit-and-run.
Yes Roben i play 1 and 6 pogression.
Somebody can make simulating test for GAPS in sixline like Steph made for JL's method FIVE?
I played almost 10 000 spins never double lost.
Thanks.
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 12, 08:01 AM 2012
If you saw my first table there i show where you can bet.
Like JL's FIVE but you bet after 10 and more gaps on each lines don't need 2 game trigger.
F.e.
1 line 2 line 3 line 4 line 5 line 6 line
10 gaps 12
4 gaps 8
8 gaps 12 we lost
12 gaps we win 4
14 we win on 2 step
when we have on any line 10 gaps and more we wait on same line when gap reach same number like before we bet against creating same gap.
On example above on 1st line we pass gaps less than 10 and bet we win on 1 st step because gap not finished 10.
On 2 line we lost on 1st step because 12 was repeat and won on 2 step.
Hi Donik,
Are you using progression for each line separately, OR?
Example 1.:
First spin-On line 1. we lost
Second spin- On line 5. we win - here I used second step of progression,OR?
Thanks
Yes Deimos you are right. Still never double lost. Anyway double lost only 35 units.
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 23, 08:00 AM 2012
Yes Deimos you are right. Still never double lost. Anyway double lost only 35 units.
Thank you Donik,
I played so far only with one line, now i try to play with all lines simultaneously with your rules.
Are you using excel for this?
Deimos
Hello donik777...
Couple of questions mate on this betting method.
1. Do you only bet on gaps of 10 and more now !
2. For progression, if lets say, numbers 7-12 ... line 2. ( i call em Double streets ) loses on first step of progression, do you do second step of progression on the next bet on any line or wait for 7-12 again...
3. What do you do for example , if line 4 has hit and then misses for 10 spins. You wait for 10 spins to bet on line 4 missing, but what if it hits after 7 spins, do you still bet on the tenth spin.
Am I right in thinking you bet 5 of the 6 sixlines ?
What is the progression used here ?
Hello Twister!
Right now i bet after 2 consecutive 10 or gaps and risk 5 units. I dont like big progession because very hard recover if you lost.
Hello donik,
Is these examples are correct?
example 1: 10*-7-10*-3-13 bet and win
example 2: 15-2-7-11*-11*-12 bet and win
example 3: 12-7-15-2-12*-12*-14 bet and win
What if you have:
sixline 1: 10*-5-10*-2-12
sixline 2: 11*-2-11*-7-12
Both line play?
When you win then start new session?
My results 81 won
lost-0
Risk 5 units.
Could you write out the complete rules with progression plz ?
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 24, 12:52 PM 2012
My results 81 won
lost-0
Risk 5 units.
how do you deal with zero?
Quote from: xeo on Oct 24, 11:52 AM 2012
Hello donik,
Is these examples are correct?
example 1: 10*-7-10*-3-13 bet and win
example 2: 15-2-7-11*-11*-12 bet and win
example 3: 12-7-15-2-12*-12*-14 bet and win
What if you have:
sixline 1: 10*-5-10*-2-12
sixline 2: 11*-2-11*-7-12
Both line play?
When you win then start new session?
You are absolutely right in each case.
Yes if i win i start new session and use any gaps if more than 10.
Quote from: soggett on Oct 24, 02:10 PM 2012
how do you deal with zero?
I bet on 0 too that no problem because you bet not offen and in future my goal 2-3 units.
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 24, 02:08 PM 2012
Could you write out the complete rules with progression plz ?
Right now i don't use progression because very dangerous if you second step 35 units. I play flat bet.
Quote from: deimos on Oct 23, 10:55 AM 2012
Thank you Donik,
I played so far only with one line, now i try to play with all lines simultaneously with your rules.
Are you using excel for this?
Deimos
I checking on Hamburg data on excel.
Quote from: donik7777 on Oct 23, 08:00 AM 2012
Yes Deimos you are right. Still never double lost. Anyway double lost only 35 units.
To help you with your testing check the stats of betting against a line hitting 3 times in a row. I know thats of course a different bet but it has the same odds like your betting 2 times against the same gap forming. You will see much quicker a probability of a winning run like in your case.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Oct 25, 03:13 AM 2012
To help you with your testing check the stats of betting against a line hitting 3 times in a row. I know that's of course a different bet but it has the same odds like your betting 2 times against the same gap forming. You will see much quicker a probability of a winning run like in your case.
You can play flat bet. And you always can win 2-3 units. Never big drawdown.