On recommendation from one user, I'm copying my topic from vlsroulette forum, here.
QuoteHello, I was long time inactive on this forum, but I Gamble a lot for that time
After 10 years of constant gambling, after losing thousands and thousands.. on many different ways. I must admit that roulette is really unbeatable game in every aspect for me.
The fact is, I won the must when I didn't have desire to win, few examples:
1. I went to casino with 100 Euros with idea to "donate" it to casino with stupid bet and have a little of fun, after one hour, go out with 6000 euros.
2. I went to casino with 2000 euros in order to get just 50, and go out, I lost all on system with progressions.
3. I went to casino with 1000 euros to play dozens for a win of 100 per day, I fail fifth day.
4. I went to casino to play flat bet system for 5% win of bankroll, 5 day in row I was losing 10-15 percent after hours of play.
5. I went to casino to donate again with 50 euros, and made 1500 euro....
and so on... after series of system fails, I was going in casino just to play for fun and maybe to have a luck... and when I had win in my head, every time I lose and opposite.
It's unbelievable, Like Murphy's law, each time when I wanted to win constantly, I failed miserably, when I didn't care, then I won.
I tested many systems from different people in first place with real money and with RX codes too, from this site and other ones.
100% of them are based on progression, generally more than 95% of all system are based on progression, they miserable fail every time without exceptions.
Example: Last time few days ago I set goal, 10 euros from session, Bankroll 1000 euros, Live Casino bet 365, maximum 5 session per day, session last maximal for 50 spins.
I tested it before betting, on RX for 800 session, after every session restart and begun new one(1 session-maximal 50 spins) with 5countV2 system, 0 time fail for a win of 10 units.
First session, 10 euros win after 5 minutes of play, I went to breakfast and thought: "Good start, I hope I will win next 99 session."
After half an hour, I came to play one more session with so many self confidence, and you guess what ? AGAIN, I failed, I lost 1000 euros, on last 15 spins with maximum progression of 100 euros bet, on even money. I just laugh and watched at monitor for few minutes . I set goal of 1% of bankroll per session and second session and AGAIN I miserably fail.
My hope were many time shaken, I'm not easy breakable, I will continue to gamble, I just understand from day to day, that math and probability is not a way to win on roulette, I would love if someone can convince me otherwise.
Einstein said "The only way to make money at a roulette wheel is to steal it when the dealer isn’t looking."
He was the brain, but I'm not convinced enough in this statement too , Einstein stole theories from his women and made himself popular , because people believe in it.
Then one time, come up the guy who made up Electricity, Nikola Tesla, and said that Einstein theories are literally bullshit.
So, I don't believe to Einstein theories, but from other side I don't believe in possibility to win anymore, and I'm confused.
I would like to someone show me, some new idea, some new way, be sure that your idea is not Holy Grail, because holy grail dosen't exist if you don't have luck, share it with others give other people, who are open-minded hope too.
My goal is simple, 1% per session, maximal 5% per day , starting bank 500-1000 units, share some ideas, I will be grateful.
Thank you.
Sorry on my poor expression in writing. I'm not from English speaking country.
My goal is hard, but I'm still believing in luck :)
Cheers.
I think you are garnabby
Thank you for sharing your story :thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Oct 04, 06:55 PM 2012
I think you are garnabby
If you not are right here, it is somebodt try hard be garnabby!
Quote from: Ralph on Oct 05, 12:22 PM 2012
If you not are right here, it is somebodt try hard be garnabby!
hmm...like an art expert spotting the subtle tones of a Van Gogh.
I believe he is sincere. All he needs is to brush up on his discipline . Atleast he has recognized the fact that roulette is a game of chance and not of skill .
What I am missing in his post are the systems or methods heis using.. Maybe he could fill in this forum on this omission.
N.D.
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 05, 07:47 PM 2012
I believe he is sincere. All he needs is to brush up on his discipline . Atleast he has recognized the fact that roulette is a game of chance and not of skill .
N.D.
Nathan...do you mean neverlast isnt garnaby..and is sincere...or neverlast is garnaby...and garnaby is sincere.?
The einstein stealing off his girlfriend obsession is a dead give away...lol
No he cannot be GARnabby.
I know of Garnabby`s writing for a number of years and never knew what he was saying.
But judging by my reply to this post should be an indication that I did understand somehow what he was trying to say.
That should be proof enough , for me atleast , that it is not GARnabby.
N.D.
I don't know what you are talking about, but whatever :). I know that my post is stupid, I wrote this in the moment of anger, and English is my third language and currently I don't have time to think much about my writing, so I'm probably look like some member from the past :)
Last time when I lost, I played 5count system from roulette extreme, progression killed me in very short time, actually every time I lost, I lost on big progression. Flat bet killed me too in long run, even with many brakes. Currently I'm testing many systems and strategies on RX software, and loosing my hope for some good one on low win goal :).
Now, I'm reading topic "Method must study it propely", I'm trying to understand and probably I will try this for real money.
If you are the same guy NeverLast I just dedicated a system to you "Luxer One"
When you enter a Casino for playing european roulette,first you must know that you have to fight against the house edge(1,35% or 2,70 %).
It's low but enough for generating a lot of money for Casinos!
More you play more the house edge has a very negative effect for the gambler.
The fact that Neverlast is looking for earning 1% of his BKR is PERFECT!
LOL of a lot of members.
It dosn'tmatter!
The second ennemy is the "ecart",more dangerous than the house edge.
Beating the ecart in the long run is impossible ,but in a short sessions(what we call in Europe "two rotations":74 spins or even less) you can beat it,or better,you can not "meet" it for very long periods.
The solution that I have used since a lot of years,(wingoal 50/100 â,¬ per day at the most ,in average,not in all the sessions)is to create a system that has a very very low % to fail.
If you could find the way to play against 25 red in a row,it would be OK(only an example! try to find something else and playable!It's not easy......,but possible)
May be you find the permanence that makes you lose at the first session or you never find it,more likely,for several years.
Two conditions:
-a huge BKR: 1000 units minimum,better 2000!
-to accept a very low return on investment(1% or less 0,....).It's ridicolous,Treasury bonds are better!
This post is mainly for Neverlast,whose I have appreciated the sincerity.
Quote from: beretta28 on Oct 06, 04:09 AM 2012
Two conditions:
-a huge BKR: 1000 units minimum,better 2000!
-to accept a very low return on investment(1% or less 0,....).It's ridicolous,Treasury bonds are better!
This post is mainly for Neverlast,whose I have appreciated the sincerity.
1% per session, 5-10 session per day, so it's 5%-10% per day. On 1000 units that's 50-100 units. I think that's not stupid at all. Problem is, that several session in hundred session will kill your BR for sure, so i'm looking for system with long play, small win 1%, acceptable loss of 10%.
Neverlast
I meant 1% PER DAY(one session a day)
150 $ is not enough?
Do you know a better investment?Do you know a Bank that gives you more than 365% per year?
I've played almost two years and I've lost my 15000 $ BKR after 325 sessions,and I know people that have obtained the same results.
Not so bad.
For sure if,every session, you must spend money for oil,highway,sandwich,restaurant,tip,drink and so on,it's not your system.
You must live close to a Casino.
Otherwise give up playing roulette.NOTHING works..,apart from a lot of luck
Easiest for me to explain the system in French,Deutsch or italian.
--Any language will do,don't worry we get there.
All ears.
It's a quite old method,often illustrated with other old methods like D'Alembert,Labby,Guetting etc,but it has nothing to do with them .Players consider this system as useless as the other I mentioned here above.
They are completely wrong.
Of course if a player is not ready to have 15000 $ in the pocket, stop playing at + 150 $ per day and spend 5/6 hours in average at the table,he can stop reading now.
The system is played quite frequently by european players,Casinos know it very well,but they don't mind about + 150 $ per day,because sooner or later the system fails.
The interesting issue is that it could never fails in your gambler life,but as all systems can fail at the first session(,never happened sofar to me or to other 20/30 people that play it with satisfaction).
The system is called "Group of seven" or G7 and you can find it in Italian at :.rouletteprofessionisti.com (link:://:.rouletteprofessionisti.com).
The basic description is very old(a few years ago),but some few modifications, that I'm ready to explain, have been introduced in the last years.
First try to find it and well understand the basic system(sorry,it's a bit complicated due to the italian language mainly)
If you understand italian you will see hundreds of comment in this thread of people having payed their yearly loan for their house,other having accumulated 3 or 4 times the starting BKR,others that have lost their bkr but have had the time to win 20000 $ or â,¬,other that simply keep on winning since several years
Almost all members know how much I'm pessimistic about roulette systems posted here that can win only if the player is very lucky.
This situation generates the confusion between good system and pure luck.This luck can last for a few sessions,but has nothing to do with the systems,that usually are not good at all.
G7 or Groupe of 7 has also a small statistical advantage that make it the sole system that In My Humble Opinion can be played.
Good luck
P.S:if Administrateur or MOD agree they can open a new discussion called G7 for example,because if this topic is interesting for the members,it will be a very long thread
I like this style of play, where you secure small wins each session. This is what I use when playing. If you play no zero roulette you most certainly will go on the plus size each session using a strategy that keeps you in the game longer.
I went there but couldn't find it nor any forum where ppl.
are talking about experiences with the method...any help.
F_LAT_INO
Please check here.
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=18904.msg138026#msg138026 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=18904.msg138026#msg138026)
Sorry F_LAT_INO.The link is:
:.roulette (link:://:.rouletteprofressionisti.it).forumfree.it
Look at section: "LOTTA ALLA ROULETTE"
The basic system is the one that sniper posted here above.
The modifications make it playable.
It's not true that it's a disaster(LOL)!
Quote from: beretta28 on Oct 08, 05:58 AM 2012
The basic system is the one that sniper posted here above.
The modifications make it playable.
I confirm that the basic system is dangerous,even you can play for a few thousands spins without no risk.
Today wiyh some changes introduced by 2 members is in my opinion the best existing system,even if difficult and boring to play for a small 1% of BKR
Hello Beretta28,
Thank you for the system.
Could you please kindly highlight us on the modification.
Regards
Main point:every group of 7 spins,has 72% to be succesful.
Don't forget it,and you'll understand the importance of modifications.
I repeat:boring,long,not for a player entering a Casino twice a year,2 hours play,just for fun.
In this case play the date of birthday or room number.It's the same.....
Let's come back to G7.
Here how I play(modifications included) after a few months of testing at home with paper and pen.
BKR 15000 â,¬ wingoal 150 â,¬
The common sense says to start at the minimum of the table(5â,¬),but I'm so sure of the result that I start with 10 â,¬ bet,playing the three EC at the same time.
Pay attention not to make mistakes in registering decisions(a bit difficult....).
Bet selection:for me it doesn't exist,so you can play the EC you want or make the bet selection you like more.
When I'm in a Casino with a lot of open table,I wait until in a given table I see 9 ECs in a row(Marigny theory,unbalance 3)and then I attack the other EC.
It' complicated,because you can play Red on table 1,Even in table 3,High in table 6 and very often not at the same time.
A lot of players prefer to sit down and play the 3 ECs at the same time without any trigger.
Very good, less boring and long.
I prefer to wait for 9 in a row,where it's possible
Most important modification:
when my bet would be higher than 50 units(but it's up to you,it could be 30 units or 100 units,my experience says 50 for pratically no risk) I divide the negative balance to ricover by 3 and I continue with group of 7 for ricovering the first "THIRD",after I try to ricover the second "THIRD" and so on.
I LET 72% OF CHANCE OF SUCCESS TO WORK FOR ME!
My experience is that with an unbalance of 4,5(Marigny criteria,it means 20/21 Loss in a row) the system resists.Above 4,5 it fails.Seen 2 or 3 thimes in my "very long" life of players.
I hope it's clear.
Test it and you see how many spins are necessary for +150â,¬.
Very often 50 spins are enough or 300 are not enough.
Playing in the same time 3 ECs,usually 2 out of three go like honey,no problems at all,the third needs may be to increase the bet.......
Good luck
Funny,
I posted a method this morning--Last 3 uncles,furthest 3 aunties,catch up both--
in cycles of 7.....coincidence...