Hi All,
I did post this quistion on another thread asking for advice but no reply so I am posting it again in it's own thread.
I wounder if anyone could give me some advice.
If you was to bet on 4 inside numbers, how many spins max would you follow those 4 numbers for without a win.
I have been playing a method I'm working on where I play 4 numbers for max of 18 spins then change to another new set of 4 numbers if no win, but I know that the break even for 4 inside numbers is 9, where after losses of previous 8 bets you have a attack balance of 0, if you get a win on attack 8 you get +4, if I was to get a win on the 18th spin then that would be -32 for that attack, and a loss on the 18th spin would be -68.
After 9 spins you are just trying to recover from the first 9 spins.
The average I have been getting from each sessin so far has been in the excess of +100 units, flatbetting.
I'm in the process of creating an excel sheet to play method automaticly, and it will have the ability to allow you to chose how many attacks you go for to get a win.
Guess I have just been very lucky so far who knows?
And it goes without saying if this method seems to have some merit I will post sheet and instructions on how to play.
Thanks in advance.
malcop
I usually play for eight spins (four numbers) then change with a new four numbers.
If you are winning with your formula Malcop why alter it?
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 24, 07:23 AM 2012
I usually play for eight spins (four numbers) then change with a new four numbers.
If you are winning with your formula Malcop why alter it?
Hi Proofreader,
I know what you mean, but just wanted to see other peoples opions, I keep going from should I use 9 spins or 18 spins.
Here is a live session I played yesterday the Number is the spin I won on.
6 = +12
1 = +32
6 = +12
5 = +16
2 = +28
6 = +12
13 = -16
18 = -68 (attack bust no win!)
1 = +32
8 (broadband whent of, and when I got back to session would have won on the 11th spin!) = -32
1 = +32
4 = +20
6 = +12
1 = +32
2 = +28
2 (Broadband went off line again, called the session quits) = -8
Total Profit +144 (flatbetting)
Like I said guess I am just having a lucky run!!!
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Oct 24, 07:40 AM 2012
Hi Proofreader,
I know what you mean, but just wanted to see other peoples opions, I keep going from should I use 9 spins or 18 spins.
Here is a live session I played yesterday the Number is the spin I won on.
6 = +12
1 = +32
6 = +12
5 = +16
2 = +28
6 = +12
13 = -16
18 = -68 (attack bust no win!)
1 = +32
8 (broadband whent of, and when I got back to session would have won on the 11th spin!) = -32
1 = +32
4 = +20
6 = +12
1 = +32
2 = +28
2 (Broadband went off line again, called the session quits) = -8
Total Profit +144 (flatbetting)
Like I said guess I am just having a lucky run!!!
Thanks
malcop
If flatbetting and that are your average results then thats amazing and you should stick to 8-9 spins, not a big loss but more than enough hits to be in plus
you can always use a progression but that can burst (you need to test it through many spins to see how high it goes and still then it can go higher)
if your sessions are all like this or similar stick to flatbetting and go for 8-9 spins
and please share it with us ;D ;D
Once I have the sheet completed I will be able to paste some past spin results in, and try diffrent attack numbers but I think 8 or 9 is what i will settle on.
And it goes without saying that if this pans out after further testing, then of course I will be posting up the method, for anyone that is intrested.
Thanks
malcop
here are the results from a 76 spin session I played with a diffrent method, last week.
I have used the max of 9 attempts to get a win.
2 = +28
3 = +24
8 = +4
9 = 0
2 = +28
2 = +28
7 = +4
9 = -36 (Attack bust, but did check this won on the 14th spin, which would have made it -20)
9 = -36 (Attack bust)
4 = +20
2 = +28
2 = +28
9 = 0
4 = +20
Total Profit +144 (bit spooky same results as my live session posted above)
Thanks
malcop
here are some more spin results form another session I played on the same day last week with a diffrent method.
Once again I applied the 4 Inside Number method I'm working on, trying to get a win withing 9 spins max.
1 = +32
4 = +20
1 = +32
1 = +32
9 = -36 (attack bust, checked and would have won on spin 11 with -8)
6 = +12
3 = +24
9 = -36 (attack bust, checkd and would have won on spin 10 with -4)
3 = +24
3 = +24
7 = +8
5 = +16
1 = +32
3 = +24
9 = -36(attack bust, could not tell if this would have won in 18 spins not enough data)
Total Proft +172, 66 spins
Thanks
malcop
great results so far, can't wait to try it
yes, looks like the 9 spins is ok so far
keep it up ;)
Quote from: soggett on Oct 24, 02:09 PM 2012
great results so far, can't wait to try it
yes, looks like the 9 spins is ok so far
keep it up ;)
Once I get the sheet completed, it will be easy to see if 9 or 18 spins, or somewhare between 9 and 18.
I Just got in from work, after a 10 hour night shift, and decided to have a quick session to unwind.
This time I used a max of 14 attempts to get a win with 4 inside numbers, here are the results.
2 = +28
9 = 0
9 = 0
13 = -16
1 = +32
11 = -8
3 = +24
Total Profit +60, 60 spins
Of course I do not expect to win every session.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Oct 25, 12:16 AM 2012
I Just got in from work, after a 10 hour night shift, and decided to have a quick session to unwind.
This time I used a max of 14 attempts to get a win with 4 inside numbers, here are the results.
2 = +28
9 = 0
9 = 0
13 = -16
1 = +32
11 = -8
3 = +24
Total Profit +60, 60 spins
Of course I do not expect to win every session.
Thanks
malcop
as long as youre up at the end of the month - that's all that counts
This is very interesting, I am a fan of bettting up to 4 numbers
In the next two weeks I will have plenty of free time on my hands and only have to test one or two systems. So if you need help testing let me know, I'm glad to help ( even without the sheet, doing it manually )
Hi Soggett,
Thanks for the offer, at the moment I'm playing manualy, the sheet is to make it easer to see how this idea would work with diffrent configurations, like what is the best amount of attacks to use.
But this can be played at B&M with just a piece of paper to keep track of what attack number you are on and what 4 numbers you are betting on, but if you have a very good memory then you could do it all in your head no tracking is needed.
This is something that I have been meaning to do for a couple of years now, but was concentrating on the outside bet methods, betting on single numbers has always scared me, silly I know but thats just the way I am.
If this idea bombs, then at least I gave it a go, but so far it seems to be very consistant, I have seen this method go down -90 then climb back to well over +100 in just a few spins.
But of course I know a lot more testing will be needed.
Thanks
malcop
well, from -90 to +100 - thats the charm of betting straight up ;D
to me a system like this is the way to go, I love straight up systems and if we can do it with flatbet then I love it even more ;)
I was playing systems with up to 4 numbers and had great results, I used progressions that eventually busted
to change after a certaing amount of spins is the way to go definitely
I will be looking foward to when / if you post the system
and again, let me know if you need help testing (I'm kinda eager ;) )
hello, im interested to, sound to good to be true:)
Hey Malcop, if you need help with an excel sheet, let me know. Sounds like an easy one to setup.
Cheers,
MM
Thanks for sharing this Malcop, will stay tuned.
Also check out "GAPS in sixline" by Donik7777
Hope you will make an excel for this Matty, if you post it on the thread other players could use it as well and post their results, or is this not possible?
will gladly make it into excel once I know the system, should Malcop share it.
MM
Quote from: mattymattz on Oct 25, 09:41 PM 2012
will gladly make it into excel once I know the system, should Malcop share it.
MM
Hi mattymattz,
I should be able to create the sheet myself, just have not had time this week due to doing 10/12 hour night shifts, just came of last one, so will crack on with sheet over the next couple of days.
It's not a matter of sharing I'm not one of those people that post things and tease with no intention of posting method, it's just that I want to make sure that it has merit and not just me having a very lucky run.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: biagle on Oct 25, 03:14 PM 2012
hello, I'm interested to, sound to good to be true:)
Yes it dose seem too good to be true, I keep waiting for the run of good results to start to go the other way, lets hope it dose not.
Just a quick update, this was a test done for me by one of the fourm members.
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Quote "The numbers above are the win outcomes from a Live 440 Spin session from my database Lowest was -36 which was the first attack highest +144, ended +120, only went for 9 spin only, Seems very promising, thanks for sharing, will test some more long sessions :)
The 0 represents a fail :) " un-quote
Thanks
malcop
malcop, why wait, share it here:)
Quote from: biagle on Oct 26, 01:31 PM 2012
malcop, why wait, share it here:)
As long as I am happy with this, and continue to get good feedback will post up over the next few days.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Oct 26, 01:36 PM 2012
As long as I am happy with this, and continue to get good feedback will post up over the next few days.
Thanks
malcop
looking foward to it ;)
if the sessions go like this maybe we can use +1/-1 per cycle cause you rarely have 2 or more losses in a row
like it so far, thumbs up from me ;D
i cant wait to see it.
biagle
I would like to see the method as well...any expected timeline on it's release?
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Oct 28, 07:15 PM 2012
I would like to see the method as well...any expected timeline on it's release?
I'm hoping some time this week all being well.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: soggett on Oct 28, 02:19 PM 2012
looking foward to it ;)
if the sessions go like this maybe we can use +1/-1 per cycle cause you rarely have 2 or more losses in a row
like it so far, thumbs up from me ;D
Maybe your right, but still prefere flatbetting, for now at least.
Last friday night I played the following very very long session over at Dublinbet.
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This was a very long sessin was on site for over 4 hours!, would normaly have quit session between +100 and +150, but just wanted to push the bet selection, also I was very tired by this point, and was happy to take the +76 from a hight of +160.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Oct 29, 07:52 AM 2012
Maybe your right, but still prefere flatbetting, for now at least.
Last friday night I played the following very very long session over at Dublinbet.
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This was a very long sessin was on site for over 4 hours!, would normaly have quit session between +100 and +150, but just wanted to push the bet selection, also I was very tired by this point, and was happy to take the +76.
Thanks
malcop
niceeee
how many spins was that?
this looks very promising
I would also preffer flatbetting, the +1/-1 was for those who preffer progressions
looks like this session was awesome, wonder how it would have gone if you stayed more
bet it would have climb back to 150 again ;)
can't wait to test ;D
Quote from: soggett on Oct 29, 08:09 AM 2012
niceeee
how many spins was that?
this looks very promising
I would also preffer flatbetting, the +1/-1 was for those who preffer progressions
looks like this session was awesome, wonder how it would have gone if you stayed more
bet it would have climb back to 150 again ;)
can't wait to test ;D
I think it was around 188 spins, the table was very slow, table was full, must have been around 2-3 minutes at least between spins.
Yes it could have gone back to +150 but it could have also gone the other way, this is gambling after all and why push your luck?
Take the money and run :)
Thanks
malcop
Any progress on posting the rules? Pretty interested in seeing it. Thanks in advance
So malcop, any progress?
how's the testing going?
are you ready to share the system with us?
Malcop,
Just checking in to see if you had the rules ready to post.
Always looking for a good low number inside system to add to the repertoire.
Looking forward to seeing it.
Thanks
Hi All,
Sorry for not getting back to you, been a bit busy so not got everything together yet, as I have said before will only post up when I am pretty sure that I was not just having a run of good luck.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Nov 13, 08:09 AM 2012
Hi All,
Sorry for not getting back to you, been a bit busy so not got everything together yet, as I have said before will only post up when I am pretty sure that I was not just having a run of good luck.
Thanks
malcop
aaa, youre teasing now... ;)
we are still ready to help you test it, you don't have to test alone, just saying
looking forward to it :)