This system has been doing good with a few tests i've done, except that it busted today with some spins from Germany. I might need to improve it. It's easy to play and i'm sure some of you will find it interesting.
Bets are on RB, HL & OE. . . . . . . (3 outside bets all at the same time)
Go up 1 as you lose, 1 down as you win (no individual progression)
Example, if our net balance is down 1 unit, then we bet 2 units on all three (RB, HL & OE)
Bets will be based always on the number B4 the last hit. So, if we have 7,29. . . . . . . . . . . . 7 is the number B4 last (we bet on 7)
Here is an example:
7 <--------B4 Last
26
--
30 <-------bets start here
19
8
So, we want to be on RED because 7 is Red
We want to bet on LOW because 7 is Low
And we want to bet on ODD because 7 is Odd
In this example
we win 1 unit for RED
we lose 1 unit because 30 is EVEN
and we lose 1 more unit because 30 is HIGH
Since we're down 1 unit, our next bet would be 2 units on all bets.
Below is sample:
. . . . . . Bet. . . . . . RB. . . . . . . HL. . . . . . . . OE. . . . . . . . . . Net Total
32
28
2. . . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . -1
18. . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . -3
00. . . . 3. . . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . . . -12
4. . . . . 4. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . -9
1. . . . . 3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . . . -5
27. . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . . . -11
1. . . . . 3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . . . . -2
19. . . . 2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . +4
13. . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . +5
12. . . . 1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . . . +4
23. . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . +2
20. . . . 3. . . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . . . . -1
27. . . . 4. . . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . . . . +11
21. . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . . . +10
9. . . . . 2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . +12
11. . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . +11
13. . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . +13
21. . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . +12
9. . . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . +14
3. . . . . 1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . +15
9. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +18
20. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +15
20. . . . 2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +9
8. . . . . 3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . +3. . . . . . . . . . +12
21. . . . 2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +10
5. . . . . 3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +7
27. . . . 4. . . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . . +4. . . . . . . . . . +19
Welcome to the Forum Carsch.
Plenty of us sure remember you. Nice to see members from the "old school" are still active :thumbsup:
I complimented you at GG for this but I do have a question/comment. There are certain methods I classify as.....maybe only play it at a busy table. Any method where you need to do a little calculating, have your 3 stacks ready (whatever it might) etc. I dont think I would play this if only ONE other person was at the table, any comment on this?
Also, in terms of units for the $5 min. tables. We would have to start 5 5 5. When we need to go up, would it go to $6 or $10? Ken
thanks again for the welcome, Victor. :)
Quote from: MrJ link=topic=1056. msg9399#msg9399 date=1282942699
I complimented you at GG for this but I do have a question/comment. There are certain methods I classify as. . . . . maybe only play it at a busy table. Any method where you need to do a little calculating, have your 3 stacks ready (whatever it might) etc. I don't think I would play this if only ONE other person was at the table, any comment on this?
The only calculation needed for this system is that you know your total balance after a first loss. No need to track what RB, HL and OE are doing. With your first loss, you know you have to bet 1 unit on all decisions. Another loss and you know you have to add another unit (2 units). On a win, you know you have to take away 1 unit, and so on; so there should be no problems there. Simply keep in mind what your balance was after a first loss, that's all.
QuoteAlso, in terms of units for the $5 min. tables. We would have to start 5 5 5. When we need to go up, would it go to $6 or $10? Ken
Considering that $5 is one unit, your next bet would be $10, then $15, $20 and so on.
Thank you sir. Ken
Hi Carsch
I'm not sure if you made a mistake but on your set of numbers you go from betting 4 units and then you win and it goes straight down to 1 unit.
Do you ever lower the unit size by more than one at a time?
Thanks for your method
BW
Quote from: buffalowizard link=topic=1056. msg9420#msg9420 date=1282945503
Hi Carsch
I'm not sure if you made a mistake but on your set of numbers you go from betting 4 units and then you win and it goes straight down to 1 unit.
Do you ever lower the unit size by more than one at a time?
Thanks for your method
BW
Any time you're +-1, or you've recovered all your losses and back to your previous net balance, you bring your bets to 1 unit whether you last bet was 10 units or 4, or whatever. I guess this is what you're referring to.
Someone brought this to my attention. It's a mistake a made, and he's right.
Quote2. . . . . 1. . . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . -1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . -1
18. . . . 2. . . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . -2. . . . . . . . +2. . . . . . . . . . -3
00. . . . 3. . . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . -3. . . . . . . . . . -12
4. . . . . 4. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . +1. . . . . . . . . . -9
Wouldn't you have won +4, +4, +4 on this spins which would have brought you to even and your next bet would be 3 units on each even chance?
Hello Mr. Carsch,
How good to see you here. I remember your from GamblersGlen forum.
Do you have the Roulette Xtreme code for this method?
Maybe have some graphics for this system already on your computer?
I like to see the performance in some graphics if available.
Thank you very much in advance.
WannaWin
When you bet last before you win half the chops and streaks, you lose all doubles. Playing all ECs will balance the chops/doubles disadvantage and the progression should give something back. But when zeros & doubles strike often (on double zero roulette) it could be a disaster.
I know that to make a good EC system needs a genius like turbo turbo. Not an easy subject.
Hermes
Quote from: WannaWin link=topic=1056. msg9427#msg9427 date=1282950831
Hello Mr. Carsch,
How good to see you here. I remember your from GamblersGlen forum.
Do you have the Roulette Xtreme code for this method?
Hi! So this is where all the GG members are! :)
No, i don't have Roulette Xtreme. Unfortunately, i'm always doing my tests by hand.
Quote from: Hermes link=topic=1056. msg9429#msg9429 date=1282955395
When you bet last before you win half the chops and streaks, you lose all doubles.
That's correct. However, since i'm playing RB, HL and OE all at the same time, it conpensates in case that is happening on one sector.
QuotePlaying all ECs will balance the chops/doubles disadvantage and the progression should give something back. But when zeros & doubles strike often (on double zero roulette) it could be a disaster.
What is ECs? I've been out of the gamble scene for a while now, so i'm behind with some of the terms used.
Even chances. (1-1). Ken
Thanks Ken
ONLY CAN IT WORK ON EN PRISON TABLE.
I ASSURE YOU AS AM PLAYING IT ALMOST EVERY NIGHT
IN LAND CASINO........3 DIFFERENT E/C----
could you please explain your method of playing THREE EC in land casino using some spins?
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 28, 12:38 PM 2010
ONLY CAN IT WORK ON EN PRISON TABLE.
I ASSURE YOU AS AM PLAYING IT ALMOST EVERY NIGHT
IN LAND CASINO........3 DIFFERENT E/C----MIXING IT WITH COUPLE MORE BETS.
Quote from: catalyst on Aug 28, 09:27 PM 2010
Could you please explain your method of playing THREE EC in land casino using some spins?
Check it in RANDOM vers.RANDOM THREAD.
This system seems to be failing as some have reported with their tests.
Quote from: Carsch on Aug 29, 02:57 PM 2010
This system seems to be failing as some have reported with their tests.
Don't believe everything you hear.There are different interest from some ppl.--you must test it by yourself to be sure,but nobody forces you.
For those who are still interested in this system, try this:
Quit whenever your bets call for more than 7 units. Or, quit whenever you've lost a total of 50 units. You may restart with 1 unit, or look for a different table. This worked where it had failed previously.
Lose 1 unit, bet 1 unit. Lose again, then bet 2 units, and so on (1,1,2,3. . . . . )
Lose 3 units the first time, then bet 2 units, then 3 and so on (2,3,4. . . . . . )
Go back betting 1 unit whenever you break even, or you're +-1 unit
When recovering, if you have to place a high bet but you're only a few units down, bring down that bet. Ex: you're down 5 units, and your bet calls for 7 units; don't bet 7 units. Instead bet 4 units. Use your judgment.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 29, 03:13 PM 2010
Don't believe everything you hear.There are different interest from some people.--you must test it by yourself to be sure,but nobody forces you.
I agree. :)
Very interesting last post that everyone who posts systems should take note of.
If it wins for you take no notice of what others post.