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Title: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 10, 09:38 AM 2012
Just an idea for now been in my head for 12 months. Wanted it written down in Notepad. Its probably glad to get free from my head actually!! :thumbsup:

Wait until a Doz is 4 back (1,2,2,3,3 <<<<1 is four back) then bet all Natural lines excluding the line that deemed the Dozen to be back. Ex. 26,23,1,14 <<<D3 is four back and 26 is line 5. Bet 1u on lines 1,2,3,4,6. D3 can hit on the 5th spin and win if its line 6.
Stop at 5u. Progression +2 on a loss, -1 on a win. i.e. 1-3-2-1-1-1-3-2-1-1-3-5-4-3-2-1
Zero loses of course and doesn't exist when looking for a trigger (D3,2,1,2,0,2 and D3 is 4 back.)
If you win and look back and see D2 is 5 back...NO TRIGGER.

Take one win and re trigger. (because its 1-5 odds, a long streak of 9 sleeping Doz will wipe out profit on a loss, so its pointless to keep betting against the Doz.)


16
22
1
36
12
25<<<< (22)bet 1u line 1,2,3,5,6
3  win +1u
3
17
11 <<< (25) bet 1u line 1,2,3,4,6
0  lose -4 u (trigger cont. +3)
13 win -1u
31
19
20<<<(11)bet 2u line 1,3,4,5,6
3 win +1u
17<<<(31)bet 1u line 1,2,3,4,5
14 win +2u
33
34<<< (3)bet 1u line 2,3,4,5,6
33 win 3u
21
6
7
11<<<< (33)bet 1u line 1,2,3,4,5
29 win +4u
16
18
0
0
24 <<<(11)bet 1u line 1,3,4,5,6
3 win +5u STOP


Turner...


Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 10, 11:09 AM 2012
It's a good idea if nothing else will keep you at the table until your inside bet triggers are active.

For it to be a stand alone system it has to have a very high hit rate: 90%+

Just an idea for now been in my head for 12 months.--Turner

By all means let the ideas breathe :)  In---out---in...
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 10, 11:11 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 10, 11:09 AM 2012


By all means let the ideas breathe :)  In---out---in...

and relax........
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 10, 12:00 PM 2012
Test#1  Dublinbet Live Euro #1

+1
+1
-5
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
-------------------------------------------
+11: Hit rate 90%  :)
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 10, 12:16 PM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 10, 12:00 PM 2012
Test#1  Dublinbet Live Euro #1

+1
+1
-5
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
+2
-------------------------------------------
+11: Hit rate 90%  :)
Said it would be :xd:
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 10, 12:42 PM 2012
Not so good with American wheel.  80% hit-rate in 10 spins
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 11, 07:10 AM 2012
Test Dublinbet Euro #1

1. loss -5
2. win +2
3. win +2
4. loss -10
5. win +3
6. win +3
7. loss -15
8. win +4
9. win +4
10. win +4
-------------------------
Total: -8 : Hit rate 70%
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 12, 06:31 AM 2012
Test: Dublinbet#1

1.) win+2
2.) win+2
3.) win+2
4.) win+2
5.) lose-10
6.) win+4
7.) win+4
8.) win+4
9.) win+4
10.) win+4
-----------------------------------
Total:+18: Hit rate 90%  :)
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: TwoCatSam on Nov 12, 11:32 AM 2012
Turner

This is a neat little idea to try at Riverwind when we get to go back. 'Course is 00 RNG but sometimes the zeros take a holiday.

I have about four of these systems to try now.

Thanks.

TwoCat

Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 12, 11:44 AM 2012
Celtic Casino Euro

1.) win+2
2.) win+2
3.) win+2
4.) loss-10
5.) win+4
6.) win+4
7.) win+4
8.) win+4
9.) win+4
10.) win+4
----------------------------------------
Total: +18: Win rate 90%  :) 
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 13, 08:07 AM 2012
BetPhoenix Live American Wheel 6:52 a.m. November 13, 2012
.
1.) win+1
2.) win+1
3.) win+1
4.) win+1
5.) win+1
6.) win+1
7.) win+1
8.) win+1
9.) win+1
10.) win+1
------------------------------------
Total: +10: Hit rate 100% (Perfect score)  :thumbsup:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 13, 03:33 PM 2012
BetPhoenix Live American Wheel 2:14pm  S.F.H  :o

1.) lose -5
2.) lose -10
3.) win+3
4.) win+3
5.) win+3
6.) win
7.) lose -15
8.) win+4
9.) lose -20
10.) lose -25
-------------------------------------------------
Total: -47: Hit rate 50%
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 13, 04:57 PM 2012
Thanks proof....Im gonna try Will hill live dealer as it happens for 10 games, same as in your tests.

Few 90% there and a 100%. Not bad for a start.
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: ddarko on Nov 13, 04:59 PM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Nov 13, 04:57 PM 2012
Thanks proof....I'm gonna try Will hill live dealer as it happens for 10 games, same as in your tests.

Few 90% there and a 100%. Not bad for a start.

Billy Hill ?$%^?

Enjoy collecting your winnings the one time they allow you before they bounce you  ;) LOL

O0
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 14, 10:20 AM 2012
Quote from: ddarko on Nov 13, 04:59 PM 2012
Billy Hill ?$%^?

Enjoy collecting your winnings the one time they allow you before they bounce you  ;) LoL

O0
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Ive been cashing out on WH for 2 years. Never had a prob
Here i was using live spins as they happen in RX. No wagers. Idea is too young to risk money yet
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: ddarko on Nov 14, 10:39 AM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Nov 14, 10:20 AM 2012
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I've been cashing out on WH for 2 years. Never had a prob
Here i was using live spins as they happen in RX. No wagers. Idea is too young to risk money yet

Right ok, looks like I got the wrong end of the stick as normal  :-[ In my defense I was just going on some of the threads here about Billy Hill banning people for winning even small amounts.

Just out of interest Turner why use Billy Hill live spins instead of Spielbank spins in RX ?

Personally I feel any Spielbank spins would be more genuine than any live dealer  ???

Either way good luck with your testing   :thumbsup:

O0
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 14, 11:04 AM 2012
Quote from: ddarko on Nov 14, 10:39 AM 2012
Right ok, looks like I got the wrong end of the stick as normal  :-[ In my defense I was just going on some of the threads here about Billy Hill banning people for winning even small amounts.

Just out of interest Turner why use Billy Hill live spins instead of Spielbank spins in RX ?

Personally I feel any Spielbank spins would be more genuine than any live dealer  ???

Either way good luck with your testing   :thumbsup:

O0
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Speilbank spins can give you a false sense of reality like RNG
Its easy to see youve done well but then you realise you are 140 spins down the line without realising that possibly 3 hour in the casino. I allways finally test on a real wheel at a real speed for correct and realistic situation

Even live dealers a bit quick...45 sec/spin
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: ddarko on Nov 14, 11:26 AM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Nov 14, 11:04 AM 2012
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Speilbank spins can give you a false sense of reality like RNG
Its easy to see youve done well but then you realise you are 140 spins down the line without realising that possibly 3 hour in the casino. I allways finally test on a real wheel at a real speed for correct and realistic situation

Even live dealers a bit quick...45 sec/spin

ok fair enough, for me though I prefer the Spielbank numbers I feel they are 100% genuine  ;)

I'm not 100% sure about any live dealer wheel, paranoid I guess. Years ago over at VLS Spike/Cheese stated that he couldn't win at Dublinbet but could win at a B&M casino.

I think Spike does win, so I found that statement very interesting !!!!

So, I download Spielbank spins play them through RX, lose, & start all over again  :thumbsup:

O0
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 14, 11:54 AM 2012
Quote from: ddarko on Nov 14, 11:26 AM 2012
ok fair enough, for me though I prefer the Spielbank numbers I feel they are 100% genuine  ;)

I'm not 100% sure about any live dealer wheel, paranoid I guess. Years ago over at VLS Spike/Cheese stated that he couldn't win at Dublinbet but could win at a B&M casino.

I think Spike does win, so I found that statement very interesting !!!!

So, I download Spielbank spins play them through RX, lose, & start all over again  :thumbsup:

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Ddarko
don't forget the latvian psudo casino they all use isnt rigged i think but ensures the house edge of 2.7% by eliminating VB with no betting after release and very small bet laying time. They don't need to cheat. Its a negative expectancy game
Theres no DS either because they are prompted how to spin too. Its diffetent each spin. Slow...fast..medium..
Turner
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: ddarko on Nov 14, 12:04 PM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Nov 14, 11:54 AM 2012
Ddarko
don't forget the latvian psudo casino they all use isnt rigged i think but ensures the house edge of 2.7% by eliminating VB with no betting after release and very small bet laying time. They don't need to cheat. Its a negative expectancy game
Theres no DS either because they are prompted how to spin too. Its diffetent each spin. Slow...fast..medium..
Turner

I hear you Turner  :thumbsup: I'm just a bit paranoid & cannot get what Spike/Cheese said out of my head is all ??? I will keep testing on RX with Spielbank  & no doubt failing  :-[ Or of course I will conquer all and get that winning method  ;)

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Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Turner on Nov 14, 02:40 PM 2012
Quote from: ddarko on Nov 14, 12:04 PM 2012
I hear you Turner  :thumbsup: I'm just a bit paranoid & cannot get what Spike/Cheese said out of my head is all ??? I will keep testing on RX with Spielbank  & no doubt failing  :-[ Or of course I will conquer all and get that winning method  ;)

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Ddarko

I test 95% with Speilbank on RX too....I just like to see it works on live spin...thats all....
Title: Re: 5-line
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 14, 09:31 PM 2012
Thanks Proof....I'm gonna try Will hill live dealer as it happens for 10 games, same as in your tests. 
Few 90% there and a 100%. Not bad for a start.-Turner   

Maybe an extra chip on all five trigger lines and a chip on 0/00 will strengthen the method.