This is a similar method as "Six Split System" but less dangerous progression and very potential of winning a lot. (With a small risk, really) I played this and won +2000 units in a matter of 20min.
1) Place two random doublestreets. Minimum bet. (I prefer doublestreets 10/15 & 22/27) Play until no hit for 3 times
2) Go to next step in progression 1-2-4-8-10-12-14-17-20.
3) Play until no hits for 3 times
4) If hits are 2 times or less: Repeat steps 2,3
5) If hits are 3 times or more. Start over (1)
not bad
quick test 60 spins ended +30
highest bet was 8
Quote from: soggett on Nov 20, 04:28 AM 2012
not bad
quick test 60 spins ended +30
highest bet was 8
Nice Soggett! ...But I think you could win alot more than that! ;)
Cheers
Im not being critical. You have your own agenda and you dont listen. I am just warning you of the dangers. I would never just bet 2 lines and stick wirh them because I know they can sleep for 20 or more spins. Its called Murphys law. "anything that can go wrong will go wrong." if it can sleep for18 spins, it will
Turner
Turner. You'll always talk about extreme cases? Yes, perhaps that is so?
Even if that was true, (extreme cases) then you'll reach the 7:the step in the progression (7*3=21) and start collecting. And a winning streak with 14 units that could be a lot of money.... Ofcourse the opposite could happen... :/
I thought it was a clever method. you can lose 3 times 3 times 3 times... but then the luck will turn, at that time you reached some steps in the progression and start winning...
Nothing can save you from long losing streak? What's your point ?
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 05:12 AM 2012
Turner. You'll always talk about extreme cases? Yes, perhaps that is so?
Even if that was true, (extreme cases) then you'll reach the 7:the step in the progression (7*3=21) and start collecting. And a winning streak with 14 units that could be a lot of money.... Ofcourse the opposite could happen... :/
I thought it was a clever method. you can lose 3 times 3 times 3 times... but then the luck will turn, at that time you reached some steps in the progression and start winning...
Nothing can save you from long losing streaks? What's your point ?
errrr....yes it can. Dont bet on long progressions and you wont go on long losing streaks. Ignatus...your stop loss is "BUST"
I think Turner's point is that don't stick to any 2 doublestreet. But change it depends of the last spins.
But your idea is pretty good, anyway.
2000 units in 20 minutes? You should be a millionaire by the end of the day!
BW. ;D lol yes!
Was using the wrong progression. Sry! :S
Play normally but with THIS 2 Double Streets Progression. (see rules in first post)
1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100...
Reset/start over when 4 wins or more
Hi ignatus,
Thanks for your line bet strategy. However, I agree turner is right about the sleepers. If you like LINE BETS and want to check out a similar line bet combo which generated some positive interest a time ago, and might give you some ideas... then this one of mine is definately worth your time to carefully read:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0)
I still use this method at times as it has served me well in the past.
Maybe you can extract some idea and fuse it to your own method?
Thanks,
A.
Anyone who's been playing roulette long enough should know that this is a road to disaster. Turner is so right, how long have you been playing roulette? There is no such thing as easy money btw, not in the long run
Quote from: atlantis on Nov 20, 10:59 AM 2012
Hi ignatus,
Thanks for your line bet strategy. However, I agree turner is right about the sleepers. If you like LINE BETS and want to check out a similar line bet combo which generated some positive interest a time ago, and might give you some ideas... then this one of mine is definately worth your time to carefully read:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0)
I still use this method at times as it has served me well in the past.
Maybe you can extract some idea and fuse it to your own method?
Thanks,
A.
hi atlantis, what is with your WABO strategy, it is still in use and how spins passed ?
ignatus, this your system is definitely
THE HOLY GRAIL (i test on 100000000 spins) and i do not know how to thank you because you've shared it with us :question:
With this system, on fun mode, using 100 chip units, I just made 740,000 euro in 3 and a half minutes.
ignatus, please delete this topic, there is a possibility that casino owners see this and then protect their casinos from this system!
The op is like a little kid running around with a lollypop
Well. Thanks you guys :) I also thought it was a very potential system.
BW. Amazing! :ooh:
Speed. First time anyone say the holy grail about any of my systems (and not me this time!) :P
Need more feedback now, if you can make up your mind if it's a good system or not?
Cheers
I know it's a language thing but isn't it ironic how some people don't get irony ;)
Roughy
Roughy. Really? Playing now for 5min with 25 unit bet won +5000.
What are you talking about?
Ignatus. It seems like you are a beginner. Nothing wrong with that at all. But i recommend that you study roulette for a longer period of time before You post Martingale betselections etc. Thats not Roulette. Its called luck. Learning to read random takes quite some time.
cheers
/M
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 01:01 PM 2012
Roughy. Really? Playing now for 5min with 25 unit bet won +5000.
What are you talking about?
Still didn't beat my record mate, but bloody good effort nonetheless
BW ;D
Well, I think you need to do afew test runs before you can say it's no good system etc?
Is Speed just kidding me??
Did Buffalowizard lie about his winnings?
I don't think so... :/
Who kidding whom here :))
Ignatus brother,learning to learn and just learn !
Ignatus, thanks for your system. 8)
Ignatus,
I'm sorry to report that I have in the last hour, lost 975,000 euros playing this. Went on a streak the devil himself couldn't conjure.
Now I find myself standing on a bridge, playing on my phone with my last 100unit chip standing between me and a long and lonesome plummet into lake nicuragua and certain death.
Wish me luck
BW. hehe... yes, It's a dangerous system when you got long losing streaks. I'll rewrite the rules for this system. Basically the same, but betting on the last 2 doublestreets hit. This will get most repeaters and alternating movements.
Quote from: buffalowizard on Nov 20, 03:08 PM 2012
Ignatus,
I'm sorry to report that I have in the last hour, lost 975,000 euros playing this. Went on a streak the devil himself couldn't conjure.
Now I find myself standing on a bridge, playing on my phone with my last 100unit chip standing between me and a long and lonesome plummet into lake nicuragua and certain death.
Wish me luck
well I dont feel bad about what I said, i didnt threaten to have him shot Buff. That kinda set the limit of what you can say here and not get a boll.ocking :thumbsup:
buffalo, don't do it!!
Save that $100 chip. :wink:
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 03:13 PM 2012
BW. hehe... yes, It's a dangerous system when you got long losing streaks. I'll rewrite the rules for this system. Basically the same, but betting on the last 2 doublestreets hit. This will get most repeaters and alternating movements.
Jesus wept!
Quote from: buffalowizard on Nov 20, 03:08 PM 2012
Ignatus,
I'm sorry to report that I have in the last hour, lost 975,000 euros playing this. Went on a streak the devil himself couldn't conjure.
Now I find myself standing on a bridge, playing on my phone with my last 100unit chip standing between me and a long and lonesome plummet into lake nicuragua and certain death.
Wish me luck
Play with a small bankrolls of 100 units and try to double it or lose all.
Well iggy, me old chestnut
I can happily report that I won that bet and am now 12,000 units in the green so am going out clubbing and spending the night with several very eager prostitutes.
Thankyou with much love,
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 03:15 PM 2012
Jesus wept!
Turner. I know you don't like me... but betting on the
last two doublestreets hit would make a difference.
BW. ;D
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 03:24 PM 2012
Turner. I know you don't like me... but betting on the last two doublestreets hit would make a difference.
BW. ;D
ignatus...i dislike no one. Go look at your first posts in order. Look at my comments how I am trying to help. Then look at your posts how you completly ignore everything.
These are incredibly naive ancient ideas that, basically, are an insult to post in notepad, let alone the main board. Do you really truely think no one has tried these things years ago when they were about 13?
This is why I think its a wind up. Your English is too good.
I tell you my first live session was disaster playing with 2 static bets. Betting on the two last doublestreets hit now live playing for 5 min I'm +500 units.
Say what you will? it has great potential, but also dangerous system.
If you have stop loss & win goal. (Protect yourself from great losses)
@ ignatus
Who is going to take a guy who's avatar is a "wolf in sheeps clothing" seriously ??
And BTW as you well know, speed was being sarcastic :thumbsup:
O0
Turner. No worries. All points of view are good, your theory that 2 doublesteets can sleep for 20 spins may be true. (In extreme cases). But then as I said before. IF luck turns after a long losing streak, you'd be recovered pretty soon thanks to the progression and way this strategy is played...
ddarko. I don't wish to be Serious! ;D
Hey Ignatus don't feel bad.
(You stood for me over at Mabel One. Now it's my turn.)
Just because a car won't start doesn't mean the whole car is bad. Could be just a bad alternator. Same with systems.
Thanks Proof ;)
Greetings from hotel Capricorn!
Just having a quick break.
Ignatus, if I were to give you one word of advice it would be this: spend a couple of days minimum reading as much as you can in this forum. See the good the bad and the ugly. Take it all in, breath it, smell it and eat it with your cereal. I will miss you but it will be worth it
Now back to business
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 03:57 PM 2012
Turner. No worries. All points of view are good, your theory that 2 doublesteets can sleep for 20 spins may be true. (In extreme cases). But then as I said before. IF luck turns after a long losing streak, you'd be recovered pretty soon thanks to the progression and way this strategy is played...
If you never listen to anything i say again, listen to this.
2 Double streets sleeping for 20 spins is not theory. Its fact.
Let me go run a few small samples and see how long a dozen sleeps for.
they will be speilbank ....perhaps 300 spins.
Ignatus,
This is from 1 table at speilbank casino. Around 300 spins.
The interval (last column) shows how much each street and Column has slept
A double street has the same stats
Its not theory, Its not extremes...its a few hours on a roulette table
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Turner. Thanks. I won't argue against you :)
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 04:37 PM 2012
Turner. Thanks. I won't argue against you :)
good...heres another
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Ignatus.....
double streets.....notice there twice what a dozen is. and half is similar to dozens.
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All I can say all my strategies would kick it, (Altern8, Dozen Repeater, Close Numbers, Returning to Basics etc) They are all basically repeater strategies.
Now, playing this strategy betting two last doublestreets hit, is a combination of all those strategies. And progression is protection from long losing streaks etc.
What is more: Playing with the 1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100 doublestreet progression, it's a slow progression because you play each step until 3 losses in a row, (and reset after 4 wins).
Playing a live session now +700 units. So you cannot say it's not working
Cheers
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 03:38 PM 2012
Betting on the two last doublestreets hit now live playing for 5 min I'm +500 units.
How can you be that much up in only 5 min playing live? That would only be about 3-4 spins! What unit value are you betting with? It must be huge, so how can you do a progression? Or are you on rng with play money?
Cheers
Roughy
And can I just say, you guys make me smile so much! ;D
Roughy
Roughy. I was in the middle of one session... :P
Ignatus,
can you explain the progression a bit better please
I dont think I get it
Soggett.
Always bet on the two last doublestreets hit with progression 1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100.
After 3 losses in a row go to next level in progression.
Reset after 4 wins
For an example you start betting 1-1. W L W L L L (three losses)
Next bet 2-2 W L L W L L L ( three losses)
Next bet 3-3 W L W L L W L L W. (That's four wins. Now you continue play with the same bet until 3 losses in a row, then reset to 1-1 bet.)
:)
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 05:35 PM 2012
Soggett.
Always bet on the two last doublestreets hit with progression 1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100.
After 3 losses in a row go to next level in progression.
Reset after 4 wins
For an example you start betting 1-1. W L W L L L (three losses)
Next bet 2-2 W L L W L L L ( three losses)
Next bet 3-3 W L W L L W L L W. (That's four wins. Immediatley reset to 1-1 bet. Start over!)
:)
Thats a loss of 38U....??
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 05:24 PM 2012
Roughy. I was in the middle of one session... :P
Not sure what you mean by this.
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 05:35 PM 2012
Soggett.
Always bet on the two last doublestreets hit with progression 1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100.
After 3 losses in a row go to next level in progression
Sorry, I see in another post you say you are betting with 25u. So first bet would equal 50 (euros, £s, whatever) If you lose you bet same again = 100u so far. Another lose =150u. Then onto next level of progression, 100u. If you lose that would make 250u lost. You must have a very large bankroll to carry on with this progression, and a table with high limits. So, I ask again. Are you testing with real live play or rng in fun mode?
Cheers
Roughy
See correction above. (continue to bet after 4 wins until 3 losses in a row, then reset to 1-1.)
It could be played: reset to 1-1 immediatly after 4 wins.
Quote from: Roughy on Nov 20, 05:52 PM 2012
Not sure what you mean by this.
Sorry, I see in another post you say you are betting with 25u. So first bet would equal 50 (euros, £s, whatever) If you lose you bet same again = 100u so far. Another lose =150u. Then onto next level of progression, 100u. If you lose that would make 250u lost. You must have a very large bankroll to carry on with this progression, and a table with high limits. So, I ask again. Are you testing with real live play or rng in fun mode?
Cheers
Roughy
I'm not playing with real money. I play on live wheel practice mode. (with 5 or 10 unit bets...) Right now I'm +700 playing this method
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 05:52 PM 2012
See correction above. (continue to bet after 4 wins until 3 losses in a row, then reset to 1-1.)
It could be played: reset to 1-1 immediatly after 4 wins.
OK, I was -38U and I've had my 4 wins. so I continue at 3-3
LLL I'm -56U...what do i do now? surely not 1-1?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 06:04 PM 2012
OK, I was -38U and I've had my 4 wins. so I continue at 3-3
LLL I'm -56U...what do i do now? surely not 1-1?
I'm no math expert, but I got the above example +2? not -38?.... Well, three more losses would be -16?... I don't know if I calculated right :S
Anyway, 4 wins will cover all losses. So, perhaps it's better to reset to 1-1 after 4 wins? But I like to continue playing for more wins. LoL ;D could be a risk, yes...
I think you've got the hang of it Ignatus :thumbsup:
You certainly don't need my help (or anyone else here honestly.)
Congratulations! 8) :) 8)
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1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100.
the progression Ignatus is suggesting is 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,6,6,6,8,8,8...
Only increase units after three consecutive misses.
Reset back to one unit/line after four consecutive wins.
*One concern though. Turner did have a point earlier about a dozen (two lines) missing a lot of times. (I've seen a dozen miss 28 times in a row.) How much bankroll would we need to play this system?
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 06:22 PM 2012
I'm no math expert, but I got the above example +2? not -38?.... Well, three more losses would be -16?... I don't know if I calculated right :S
Anyway, 4 wins will cover all losses. So, perhaps it's better to reset to 1-1 after 4 wins? But I like to continue playing for more wins. LoL ;D could be a risk, yes...
In your example, you lost 14 times and won 8. Each time you lose you lose double what you win when you win. Its 1:2 odds.
Do you realise when you bet 2 dozens its 1:2? you bet 2 to win 1 and lose 2?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 06:30 PM 2012
In your example, you lost 14 times and won 8. Each time you lose you lose double what you win when you win. Its 1:2 odds.
Do you realise when you bet 2 dozens its 1:2? you bet 2 to win 1 and lose 2?
It's not two dozen we're playing here. It's two doublestreets :)
Ignatus
Your avatar is so fitting. The roulette wheel may appear to be a sheep. You don't see Little Red Riding Hood hanging around, do you?
Be careful!
Sam
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 20, 06:32 PM 2012
It's not two dozen we're playing here. It's two doublestreets :)
lol.....ignore me...this time Ill let you.
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 06:47 PM 2012
LoL.....ignore me...this time Ill let you.
No worries Turner! :)
I been thinking about it, and I wish to say:
Reset to 1-1 immediatly after 4 wins. (That's the way I use to play it also!) Don't where I got the other statement from. :S
Proof. Bankroll? Calculate to cover until step 7-8th in the progression line perhaps? I never gone beyond the 8th step playing so far...
Alright how about this: 100 units for one unit/line base bet.
Win-Target/Stop-Loss: +10%/-30% or original bankroll amount.
1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3 end session after 12 consecutive misses.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Nov 20, 06:25 PM 2012
I think you've got the hang of it Ignatus :thumbsup:
You certainly don't need my help (or anyone else here honestly.)
Congratulations! 8) :) 8)
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1 2 3 4 6 8 12 19 28 42 65 100.
the progression Ignatus is suggesting is 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,6,6,6,8,8,8...
Only increase units after three consecutive misses.
Reset back to one unit/line after four consecutive wins.
This is
not the correct progression Proof. It depents on how much you win or lose. For an example
betting 1-1
W L L W L L W L L L ...would be 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
next step betting 2-2
W L L L ...would be 2,2,2,2
next betting 3-3
W L L W W L L W ...would be 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
(reset to 1-1)
Hope you get my explaination! It's not so difficult! ;D
I'm not sure about the bankroll question. Haven't calculated on that yet! Now I must get some sleep. See ya tomorrow! :)
kind of funky progression i will look at the progression for a dozen bet or double strreets