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Title: Labouchere progression
Post by: scarby on Nov 28, 12:54 PM 2012
Hi everyone,

Long-time roulette contemplator here, with many thoughts to share.

Recently I have been contemplating the Labouchere.

Nearly all of you will know how this works. With a favourably tendency, 50-50 choppy results or even unfavourable results followed by good results this works well.

Of course, its Archilles' heel is when there is a negative tendency leading to a long progression building up that might even end a line that starts as:

1 1 1 1

looking like this:

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Now I have read in one place that a way to help with this is to "take away" some of the numbers and start another line to be cleared later. So you could, say, take away the 9 and 3 and place a line below to be cleared later:

3 3 3 3

With the first line now:

2 4 5 6 7 8

But to my mind, creating a second line, or more, surely defeats the system, because by doing so you are effectively turning the sytem into something more akin to flat betting?

Another "solution" is to have a stop-loss, so you simply write-off a line if it gets too big. This will stop catastrophic lines having to be tackled, but writing off that loss is going to eat into, or maybe even wipe out, previous wins.

Another solution is not to start a second line, but to re-organise the existing one if it starts to mushroom. Particularly if a 1 1 1 1 line ends up as 3 6 9 12, you could re-organise this into:

5 5 5 5 5 5

What do you think?
Title: Re: Labouchere progression
Post by: GLC on Nov 28, 07:09 PM 2012
I'm struggling to see the real advantage of 5-5-5-5-5-5 over 3-6-9-12.  We can resolve 3-6-9-12 with 2 wins of 15 & 15 but it will take 3 wins of 10 the resolve 5-5-5-5-5-5.

One of the best options I've seen posted on the forum is by Fripper.  He posted to break the line into 2 or 3 lines and play them on 2 or all 3 of the even chance bets.

3-6-9-12-15-18 can be divided into 3-3-3-3-3-3-3;   3-3-3-3-3-3-3;  3-3-3-3-3-3-3 and one line played on R/B, one on O/E and the other on H/L.

What do you think?

GLC
Title: Re: Labouchere progression
Post by: Stepkevh on Nov 29, 01:34 AM 2012
I've had to make a sheet for someone with the Midas progression on all 3 EC's
Also a Labouchere type progression

Starts with 2,1,1,1 on each EC.
It bets the first bet, 2 in this case.

If you lose, you place your bet on the back, so 2,1,1,1,2
if you win , you take it of, so 1,1,1

If you lost previously you take the first bet again.
If you won previously you take the first and the last bet and take them both of on a win.

And so on...

Stef
Title: Re: Labouchere progression
Post by: Ralph on Nov 29, 02:55 AM 2012
If you split a labby, your winning hits must increase a lot to come out.  The stakes can go high on a losing streak. By splitting you ussaly not risk less, it is a imagination you bet less, and  it is not sure as you must place many more bets.  An unsplit labby needs about a 1/3 winning bets, and a split needs 2/3. 

Make your tests I think you will come to a conclusion it is  not  more more advantageous splitting.
Title: Re: Labouchere progression
Post by: scarby on Nov 29, 05:27 AM 2012
Thanks for the good insights, guys.

I'd not thought about playing all 3 ECs, but it's an idea.