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Title: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Nov 30, 08:16 PM 2012
Trigger: Observe one dozen until 2 streets have been hit.

Immediatly bet the other 2 streets.

Progression (?) 1,3,8,17... (each for 6 spins until hit)

or

Progression for 2 streets hit 2 times in 12 spins:
Economical:  1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-3-3-3 (22 units) or 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-4-5 x 2 (26 units)
Victorious:  1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-4-5-6-7-8-10-12-14-17-21-25-30-36-43 x 2 (255x2 = 510 units for 24 spins)

(?)

Need progression ideas for 2 streets...
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 01, 06:06 AM 2012
Works good. +342 in 306 live spins  :)

Played with progression 1,3,8,17... (each step for 6 spins)

One advice is to check the spin history when picking the 2 streets. (Choose "oldest dozen hit" in history)



Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Tamino on Dec 01, 08:41 AM 2012
Maybe  he knew  Victor Bethell  in person. V.B   in 1910  published his book Monte Carlo  Anecdotes & Systems .

N.D.
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Turner on Dec 01, 08:46 AM 2012
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 01, 06:06 AM 2012
Works good. +342 in 306 live spins  :)

Played with progression 1,3,8,17... (each step for 6 spins)

One advice is to check the spin history when picking the 2 streets. (Choose "oldest dozen hit" in history)
Three spikes and your out.
Imagine starting at the begining of one of those spikes.....which isnt unreasonable to imagine
Especially the 3rd one. Work out where you would be in the progression at the bottom of the 3rd spike havin arrived at the table at the top of it.
Turner
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 01, 12:08 PM 2012
To decrease risk playing with 2 streets - Wait 6 spins after 2 streets been hit - if they are still unhit start betting (with progression).

One option here is to use 6 single bets instead of 2 streets.

Progression (6 single numbers); 6,6,6,6,6,6,12,12,12,12,12,12....

or

1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,12,14....
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Tamino on Dec 01, 05:54 PM 2012
I assume you are  considering this method  to be played at  single 0 wheel. Correct ?

I played this   at he  SmartLive casino single o  table . Allowed only  inFREE play for US  residents).

Knowing the wheel I went immediately into action  betting the other 2  dozens and found it  to be   a rather interesting method of play.

Tweaked  :  ONE  hit in Second dozen  next bet  First and Third dozen.

LL 30 % win goal 15  20 %. or  leave session after 3  losses in a row. Did not happen  as of  now. but reached loss limit which made me stop. ( Discipline)

Nathan Detroit.

If this post interferes with your  topic  I  don`t mind if you delete  it..

Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 01, 06:06 PM 2012
Quote from: Tamino on Dec 01, 05:54 PM 2012
I assume you are  considering this method  to be played at  single 0 wheel. Correct ?

I played this   at he  SmartLive casino single o  table . Allowed only  inFREE play for US  residents).

Knowing the wheel I went immediately into action  betting the other 2  dozens and found it  to be   a rather interesting method of play.

Tweaked  :  ONE  hit in Second dozen  next bet  First and Third dozen.

LL 30 % win goal 15  20 %. or  leave session after 3  losses in a row. Did not happen  as of  now. but reached loss limit which made me stop. ( Discipline)

Nathan Detroit.

If this post interferes with your  topic  I  don`t mind if you delete  it..

"Knowing the wheel I went immediately into action  betting the other 2  dozens and found it  to be   a rather interesting method of play.

Tweaked  :  ONE  hit in Second dozen  next bet  First and Third dozen
."

Sorry about your loss. But are you sure you understood the rules right? It's not playing with the "2 other dozens" :/ It's betting on the 2 streets not hit in one dozen ??

Waiting 6 spins after 2 streets have been hit before betting on the 2 unhit street would decrease risk.

I may also add that the progression is not perfect 1,3,8,17........(Each step for 6 spins).

1,3,9 would be better perhaps for the three first steps. But what the fourth progression step will be I'm not sure. Need help to calculate this.

Another option is to use a ordinary 2 street progression..... Also as I mentioned you could play with 6 single numbers instead of 2 streets. (higher risk, higher profit)
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Tamino on Dec 01, 06:58 PM 2012
Ignatius,

I admit  my mistake   that  I interpreted your method entirely different . My mind  was so set for the dozens .
.
I  had won 2  out of  3 sessions  which is  my target : WW, WLW,  LWW, LLW, or  LLL :(

Thanks  for  reminding me  of my faux pas .

My  apology.

N.D.
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 01, 09:12 PM 2012
Great system Ignatus  8)   :thumbsup: 

Here is my session on BetPhoenix American Wheel December 1, 2012 @ 7:55pm

...23,17(trigger)

Bet sts 13-15 & 19-21
1.) 36(x)               2.) 8(x)             3.) 20(win)--no bet on table

...19,5 (trigger) 
Bet sts 1-3 & 10-12
1.) 2(win)+30

...2(trigger)
Bet sts 7-9 & 10-12
1.) 29(x)-6             2.) 21(x)-6             3.)11(win)+30

end session
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 02, 05:48 AM 2012
New session @ BetPhoenix American Wheel 4:30am December 2, 2012

...25,19,1,12,25,28,19,12,16(t)

Bet sts 13-15 and 22-24

1.) 3(x)-6             2.)15(win)+30

Bet sts 19-21 and 22-24

1.) 24(win)+30

Bet sts 16-18 and 19-21

1.) 8(x)-6             2.) 10(x)-6
3.) 15(x)-6           4.) 25(x)-6
5.) 10(x)-6
----------------------------------------------
end session: +24
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 02, 07:14 AM 2012
Session @ Dublinbet Euro Roulette #1:
December 2,2012 @ 6:00 am CST US

...20,29,6,19,27(trigger)

Bet sts 31-33 and 34-36
1.) 18(x)-6             2.) 26(x)-6
3.) 3(x)-6               4.) 12(x)-6
5.) 4(x)-6

...4(trigger)

Bet sts 7-9 and 10-12
1.) 8(win)+30

...8(trigger)

Bet sts 1-3 and 10-12
1.) 4(x)-6            2.) 6(x)-6
3.) 11(win)+30
---------------------------------------
end session: +18
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 02, 09:57 AM 2012
Great proof  :D What progression are you using? 1,3,9..?
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 02, 10:15 AM 2012
It works flat-betting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 02, 10:22 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 02, 10:15 AM 2012
It works flat-betting  :thumbsup:

Alright!  :)
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 02, 02:44 PM 2012
A quick test on wiesbaden -


I play a little different than Proof, and after a win, I restart and track from scratch.



2
21
1
26
30 Trigger
29  L
1    L
31  W +24
(Retrack)
21
6
16 Trigger
31  L
29  L
27  L
26  L
35  L -6 total
(Retrack)
27
32 Trigger
20  L
29  W +24


Good method, but need stop loss, and quit when around the +20ish mark


BW
Title: Re: Dozen Killer
Post by: ignatus on Dec 02, 02:59 PM 2012
Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 02, 02:44 PM 2012
A quick test on wiesbaden -


I play a little different than Proof, and after a win, I restart and track from scratch.



2
21
1
26
30 Trigger
29  L
1    L
31  W +24
(Retrack)
21
6
16 Trigger
31  L
29  L
27  L
26  L
35  L -6 total
(Retrack)
27
32 Trigger
20  L
29  W +24


Good method, but need stop-loss, and quit when around the +20ish mark


BW

Nice BW! :)