here I have 422 consecutive spins by betting always the penultimate colour with progression +1 on a loss and -1 on a win.I restarted in every +...( i think it is something like Flatino system but not quite sure if its the same)
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OK, I tweaked your penultimate system and my teak is called now "BARRACUDA ECs". It makes 100% more money. The bet on before last is the same but the progression is much harder.
Win or loss +1 unit until total in PLUS! After total in PLUS reset to 1 unit.
The enemies are still double streaks and zeros. Example of game:
B - R bet total
------------------------
31
24 1b +1
15 1b +1
31 1b +1
3 1b -1
34 2b -3
14 3r 0
10 4r -4
12 5r +1
28 1b +1
3 1r +1
3 1b -1
21 2r +1
30 1r +1
35 1r -1
16 2r +1
0 1b -1
4 wait
15 2r -3
15 3b 0
29 4b +4..........+13 units in 20 spins
and so on... there will be deeper downdrafts but it will always bring the total into PLUS.
Needs more bankroll and patience but the wins will be double that before. It is a Barracuda progression.
Cheers Hermes
Thanks Hermes.
but in my opinion the point is to make something more safe and not more risky.
From its own my system is risky because we need at least 100 chips BR
Quote from: Jordan on Sep 03, 06:50 AM 2010
Thanks Hermes.
but in my opinion the point is to make something more safe and not more risky.
From its own my system is risky because we need at least 100 chips BR
Without support of other two uncles,
you would need much larger BR---En Prison table only.
Bratko, you are right "en prison" is the haven for ECs but where you find them? Only in France. The Euro roulette pay where you get automatically 50% back is also good option.
Baraccuda progression is not more risky only needs more bankroll for downdrafts. Imagine it makes 100% more income than the simple progression. If you lose sometimes you get it quickly back. If you have enough bankroll the only obstacle would be table maximum. I never came to bet more than 20 units x $5 = $100! That's peanut! You need to win only 3 spins in row and you are out of trouble.
The doubles (next to zero) are the only enemies and I saw 6 doubles in row! That's 12 losses in row! 3-4 doubles in row are norm!
If we use different strategy we can almost eliminate them as I did at my diff. system.
Look that example:
B R
----
X
X that's a clear double, if you see that formation stop and wait
X for triple or chop to get out of the double traps.
X
___
? ? bet after chop
?
Bet after triple (use the before last bet).
Or switch to bet last coming until a hit than switch back.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 03, 04:13 PM 2010
Bratko, you are right "en prison" is the haven for ECs but where you find them? Only in France. The Euro roulette pay where you get automatically 50% back is also good option.
Baraccuda progression is not more risky only needs more bankroll for downdrafts. Imagine it makes 100% more income than the simple progression. If you lose sometimes you get it quickly back. If you have enough bankroll the only obstacle would be table maximum. I never came to bet more than 20 units x $5 = $100! That's peanut! You need to win only 3 spins in row and you are out of trouble.
The doubles (next to zero) are the only enemies and I saw 6 doubles in row! That's 12 losses in row! 3-4 doubles in row are norm!
If we use different strategy we can almost eliminate them as I did at my diff. system.
Look that example:
B R
----
X
X that's a clear double, if you see that formation stop and wait
X for triple or chop to get out of the double traps.
X
___
? ? bet after chop
?
Bet after triple (use the before last bet).
Or switch to bet last coming until a hit than switch back.
Hermes
--En prison rules in many casinos in Europe--I play here nerby Slovenia--
There are few in LV--and 2 in Macau/cause of your salmonela in LV--am going
there instead/--I follow your example ok--and am doing well with LD--DBL-OLD--
playing it with breaks---win some--capuccino smoke 2--and so several times.
You see that's the problem with me I don't smoke therefore need bigger bankroll. Cappuccino yes! Brandy Sokolova also yes!
Don't worry about Salmonella in LV I took it all with me and killed. Now LV is free of Salmonella but still full of other jerks.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 04, 02:42 PM 2010
You see that's the problem with me I don't smoke therefore need bigger bankroll. Cappuccino yes! Brandy Sokolova also yes!
Don't worry about Salmonella in LV I took it all with me and killed. Now LV is free of Salmonella but still full of other jerks.
Hermes
--Thats why I change my previous plan,and Macao
seems to be very nice place,with lot of casinos,like in LV
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 04, 02:42 PM 2010
You see that's the problem with me I don't smoke therefore need bigger bankroll. Cappuccino yes! Brandy Sokolova also yes!
Don't worry about Salmonella in LV I took it all with me and killed. Now LV is free of Salmonella but still full of other jerks.
Hermes
LOL @ Hermes :D
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 02, 10:15 PM 2010
OK, I tweaked your penultimate system and my teak is called now "BARRACUDA ECs". It makes 100% more money. The bet on before last is the same but the progression is much harder.
Win or loss +1 unit until total in PLUS! After total in PLUS reset to 1 unit.
The enemies are still double streaks and zeros. Example of game:
B - R bet total
------------------------
31
24 1b +1
15 1b +1
31 1b +1
3 1b -1
34 2b -3
14 3r 0
10 4r -4
12 5r +1
28 1b +1
3 1r +1
3 1b -1
21 2r +1
30 1r +1
35 1r -1
16 2r +1
0 1b -1
4 wait
15 2r -3
15 3b 0
29 4b +4..........+13 units in 20 spins
and so on... there will be deeper downdrafts but it will always bring the total into PLUS.
Needs more bankroll and patience but the wins will be double that before. It is a Barracuda progression.
Cheers Hermes
I agree with Hermes. this Barracuda progression is very good one.
Can be used also for dozens/columns.
Sorry
What is barracuda progression?
Win or loss bet +1 unit ,until total in PLUS! After total in PLUS reset to 1 unit.
Or down to the earth the D'Alembert progression for ECs is also suitable.
Win + 1 unit; 2 losses -1 unit. I tested successfully also Oscar Grind as a possible progression. It wins also. W = +1 unit; Loss = hold the same bet. After in plus reset to one unit.
Hermes
No more opinion, Jordan? You are silent, don't like opinions of others?
Cheers Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 10, 08:33 AM 2010
No more opinion, Jordan? You are silent, don't like opinions of others?
Cheers Hermes
You give him the best solutions(progressions), but at J don t like
others opinions and don t like any system( quote: all losers),
so why he post systems ? :o
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 10, 11:23 AM 2010
You give him the best solutions(progressions), but at J don't like
others opinions and don't like any system( quote: all losers),
so why he post systems ? :o
Yea,
All winners in the start of the thread,
Jordans systems,and end of the story
is always same.They all lose.
I think that his idea and the graph are good. It is difficult enough to build excellent ECs systems. His strategy belongs to the better ones. Circa 90% winning rate that's something! But we are here to make it even better.
If we could find solution for the doubles it would be a Holy Schmolly, for sure.
I have one solution, to ignore to bet against the doubles because they can come even 5 in row, that's 10 losses. Solution:
X
X
X
X
X
X
as I already said when you see picture like that stop and wait for triple or chop to brake the formation of doubles. I tested it and it works.
Hermes
This strategy is nothing new on the sky. I played it tweaked 25 years ago!
I started bet with 20 units and if won next bet was19 units and so on down to 1 unit. When I was at 1 unit I could go home as a rich. On the other hand if I lost I added 1 unit. Eg. bet 14 units and lost next bet 15 units. This betting strategy is the best for choppy games like craps: pass line and don't pass line. Not that good for streaks when you are betting on the wrong side.
Hermes