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Title: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 02, 02:13 PM 2013
Im playing around with roulette about 6 months on a weekly basis (if time permits)

I have build now my own bot and it can play automatically at 2 live casinos with different strategies. Im still tuning my strategies. It can make 500 into 3000 1 day, but as we know not all systems stand the time if you continues play them… and sometimes 1 dealer can eat your BR by halve..

So for this year I will restrict the playing to a 10% rule for wins and losses…

But if you play every day and manage to add 10% to the BR .. doing this with compounding interest calculation, I could turn 500 into 8724 units in 1 month… (using 2.5 or 5 unit bets)

Ok maybe a bit optimistic, so in average would make  5%, must be doable not?
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 03, 05:53 PM 2013
Results of day 1, started with 1000 units.
Ok, i already cheated... played 2 sessions.
And managed to make 2 times 10%, which makes 1210 u untis. In 5hr 14min.
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Turner on Jan 03, 06:49 PM 2013
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Jan 03, 05:53 PM 2013
Results of day 1, started with 1000 units.
Ok, i already cheated... played 2 sessions.
And managed to make 2 times 10%, which makes 1210 u untis. In 5hr 14min.
Spin....
I want to say it wont work on a gut feeling.....even though I dont even know what you are wagering.

So I will say....

Please report all your sessions so we can either say "well done" or it can be a lesson to all.

So sorry to be negative, but the one thing i have aquired in my 1000 posts is a "feel". The feel is bad most recently.

The good news is I havnt lost a penny in 12 months. The bad news is its because i dont feel confident enough with any system to bet anything

These are words of wisdom.
Turner
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 04, 06:33 AM 2013
Session of 1hr 57min, 10%!
Balance 1343 units.

My bot at the moment has no balance trend output yet and also no session output functions.
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 04, 08:56 AM 2013
waited 30 after previous session 1hr 45min  10%... 1463 units
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 04, 07:13 PM 2013
Manage to go to 1500 units and then got a column sleeper of 24 spins.
I was not monitoring my bot, because it has not yet a stoploss function  :thumbsup:
So found my account to 890 units..

So let it play gain and we are back at 1160 units, which would be the normal day 2 goal.

So for now managed to get 10 session of 10%, with a stoploss it would have stopped with 10% loss and not damaged me so much
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: iggiv on Jan 04, 08:03 PM 2013
i don't believe in bots, especially bots playing outside bets. And bot having no stop loss? it's suicide my friend.
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: ilukan on Jan 05, 06:07 PM 2013
If I would be playing with a bot it would only be under conditions that I would request;

--Should play each hand in diff.intervals
--Should play as if it does it manually
--Should have coffee rest time now and again
--Shouldn't bet  automatically,as a robot,sometimes placing and erasing bets as it look like
  a human error.

And several more things....as have a method/tested over 800 Wiesbaden sessions/
which never past more then 6 losing spins and never went DD over 600 un.
stop wins aim/20-30,depends/ it wins with stop-loss of 200 un in 94% cases.
In cases of DD over 200 it always recovers before any session ends and strike win ratio
in the row can go over 20 spins sometimes,while 10-12 goes very often regulary.

BUT THE QUESTION IS;is anybody capable of making such bot ???If you can let me know....but no here....pm..Luke
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 11, 11:40 AM 2013
Back playing after some days off.

I did make some changes to the strategies, and today 10% with ease...

My bot is only in alpha stage, means can capture the number of the casino, is able to play a strategy and is able to play them with some tweak-able and smart parameters so its not always plaid the same.
And he is able to play different strategies together.
And he knows when to take a coffee rest

The goal of the bot is more as this, because I believe also you will not keep on wining with outside bets.
The main goal is to find dealer signatures and play along with them.

But this part is still need to be developed.
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 11, 01:44 PM 2013
Next 10%  within 1 hr, no big scares
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Ralph on Jan 12, 09:56 AM 2013
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 04, 08:03 PM 2013
i don't believe in bots, especially bots playing outside bets. And bot having no stop-loss? it's suicide my friend.

Every bot has a stop loss, put not more in the account than you want to risk.
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Blood Angel on Jan 12, 10:02 AM 2013
Quote from: Ralph on Jan 12, 09:56 AM 2013
Every bot has a stop-loss, put not more in the account than you want to risk.


Good point!


Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 12, 01:27 PM 2013
The idea is that the bot will play and always win, so I dont need a stop loss  :twisted:
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: iggiv on Jan 18, 01:23 PM 2013
that's a good idea. I like it.  I have an idea that someone will send me a couple of million dollars. Do u like my idea?
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 18, 04:42 PM 2013
THE INTERACTIVE BOT

Luke is 100% right!  I wrote much the same years ago to Tiago2. 

What I am currently doing is using the S/N Excel bot with the L v F plugged in.  It has a beautiful "pause" button.  From time to time, I pause it and play a secondary system.  This causes the bot to wait until I fudge around and make mistakes. 

Does this cause the bot to be a non-bot?  Yep, it's an interactive bot.  Here's the deal:  The bot and Sam are doing quite well, thank you.  The bot does all the calculation for the L v F and does the grunt work of placing bets.  My bets take 2-3 seconds and then the bot takes over again.

I'm running it as I type this.  Stopped twice!!

Sam
Title: Re: 10% per day money management
Post by: Spin4Fun on Jan 18, 05:11 PM 2013
Now my simulation system is finished can replay captures session for different live casinos i found something bizar
None of the strategies will stand 5000 spins without major drawbacks.
I added a function own i can find extremes, and bet on the extremes.

But other strategies i found that the number 13 is special.
In each strategy i have a wait after trigger, i tried from 0 to 20... and for most strategies wait 13 spins before bet is the only making decent profit in the long run.
Also i test the amount of steps of progression to play, for most i found that only playing halve of the steps make the most profit, after the 13 spin waits.

So my conclusion today is that in the long run looks that something that looks bizar in a strategy gives better results as what we think is obvious.