--Not only this particular bet,but all similar EC bets where you identify/after long,long testing/that they
are closely balanced without large deviations in any particular session.It would be almost impossible
to lose/read my instruction in excel,spin 90 after ending session/with lot of patience,self control,arsenal of 5 similar bets and ofcourse sufficient BR. I will on daily basis attach the longest session from previous night Wiesbaden with some further explanations if needed,just so you can see how evenly balanced this bet is........most 6 loses in the row so far....and imbalance should be 5-10 up or either down...therefore
carefull,when the time comes change to play new similar method.Good luck
Thanks for the idea, ilukan
I will test this later on.
Alex
hi, how are you playing 1+1- here? After every w or l or in cycles?
Quote from: probasah on Feb 21, 04:41 PM 2013
Thanks for the idea, ilukan
I will test this later on.
Alex
Alex
You understand it already? DANG!!
Splain it to me!
Sam
Dear Ilukan,
Find attached below the session you started in Excel
(424 spins, you can add any spins as you like just add them
in the column on the left, the tracker will calculate the bets
automatically for you)
Please let me know what other 4-5 bets you are using so that i can
integrate them in the tracker as well to give it a test on larger number
database)
in the K and L columns you have the current sums of wins/loses
New - column D - means new Cycle (New Session)
Obviously this is a winning session, but what i am interested is
the other 4-5 bets you say are similar, if you are so kind to tell me so that i can integrate them into the tracker as i believe that changing the
GAME within the game (i.e changing/alternating bets) is a wonderful idea
random vs random
Regards,
Alex
Graph for the above session
Alex
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 21, 09:01 PM 2013
Alex
You understand it already? DANG!!
Splain it to me!
Sam
Hey TwoCatSam
It is really simple, just alternate the sectors
Sector
1: street 1,2,3
sector
2:street 4,5,6
sector
3: street 7,8,9
sector
4:street 10,11,12
12
13
14
23
24
34The tracker does it automatically, you can put the numbers on the left column.
Regards,
Alex
Quote from: biagle on Feb 21, 06:35 PM 2013
hi, how are you playing 1+1- here? After every w or l or in cycles?
Testing flat bet...suggested 1+1-as explained in excel
Quote from: probasah on Feb 21, 09:14 PM 2013
Dear Ilukan,
Find attached below the session you started in Excel
(424 spins, you can add any spins as you like just add them
in the column on the left, the tracker will calculate the bets
automatically for you)
Please let me know what other 4-5 bets you are using so that i can
integrate them in the tracker as well to give it a test on larger number
database)
in the K and L columns you have the current sums of wins/loses
New - column D - means new Cycle (New Session)
Obviously this is a winning session, but what i am interested is
the other 4-5 bets you say are similar, if you are so kind to tell me so that i can integrate them into the tracker as i believe that changing the
GAME within the game (i.e changing/alternating bets) is a wonderful idea
random vs random
Regards,
Alex
Check the bellow score of your first 11 numbers in the tracker---don't think it is same as bellow
2
3
4
4
1-trigger bet 1/2
1-w-tr-1/3
2-l
2-l
1-w-tr-1/4
2-l
4-w-tr-2/3
3-w-tr.2/4
1-l
2-w-tr-3/4
4-w.......and from here we are restarting from 1/2 again in the same consequence.
How would we handle runs like that ?!?
Runs like that are pretty scary , and just eat up the lunch you put on the plate before...
So we would have to see, if the good runs will overpower the bad ones... , testing testing testing....
Ray
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 22, 08:35 AM 2013
How would we handle runs like that ?!?
Runs like that are pretty scary , and just eat up the lunch you put on the plate before...
So we would have to see, if the good runs will overpower the bad ones... , testing testing testing....
Ray
Very bad,and which casino is so nasty so We wouldn't go there.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 22, 11:15 AM 2013
Very bad,and which casino is so nasty so We wouldn't go there.
All casinos that wont let you win should be called nasty. ;D Apparently german casinos are good guys now.
Well Robeenhuut ;)
these where actual numbers from Wiesbaden :twisted:
And Wiesbaden can be as nasty as any casino around you......
Ray
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 22, 11:45 AM 2013
Well Robeenhuut ;)
these where actual numbers from Wiesbaden :twisted:
And Wiesbaden can be as nasty as any casino around you......
Ray
I'm doing Wiesbaden on daily basis/longest session,presently am just doing it/and you can all check it up .date,table.......here mate I only see the numbers...no that I don't believe you but it should be done
that way.And btw you will never learn how to win my friend.........any session can be a winning one...you shall see session from yesterday,where it look like lost but we won after all.You should be reading my instruction carefully how to play it....it is up to the player not the method so much...
all you do is put the numbers in the tracker and look the final score....in casino you can not do this but playing spin by spin....thats somewhat different......take a notice of the last night losing session,which
won after all.
Here is example of last night session......which clearly explains behaviour of this bet....look at the first
half of the session,where lot of players would give up....but this session is only a proof how random versus random behaves...in circles...circling random bets,circling random wheel.....and when you get
this feel,to learn and know when to stop and when to continue you will be a winner.
At the testing end of the flat bet score have a look attach......and instructions from spin 228...good luck
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 22, 07:08 AM 2013
Check the bellow score of your first 11 numbers in the tracker---don't think it is same as bellow
2
3
4
4
1-trigger bet 1/2
1-w-tr-1/3
2-l
2-l
1-w-tr-1/4
2-l
4-w-tr-2/3
3-w-tr.2/4
1-l
2-w-tr-3/4
4-w.......and from here we are restarting from 1/2 again in the same consequence.
there was typo on my side yours is correct.....i do it all manual couse of further explanation how to handle bad situations when occure.
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 22, 08:35 AM 2013
How would we handle runs like that ?!?---have a look in the excels instructions.
Runs like that are pretty scary , and just eat up the lunch you put on the plate before...I put in the plate freshest sessions on daily basis.....but you still didn't unswer me from which plate you got
those 2 lossing sessions......date and table please......so I can recheck it.Simply couse this bet just don't behaves as shown in your graphs.....am very curious to see it...waiting.
So we would have to see, if the good runs will overpower the bad ones... , testing testing testing....
Ray
Last night longest session Wiesbaden,
WON 194
LOST 192......WITH 15 ZEROS.....and that's how random vers. random behaves.
Must remember this is a random game/or is it/-- :-\ :-\
There wasn't stop win in this session as it was evenly leveled to the very end.
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
20 ZEROS AND STILL ON TOP.
so again dalambert in cycles or after every bet?
Quote from: biagle on Feb 24, 02:01 PM 2013
so again dalambert in cycles or after every bet?
As anybody wishes.....testing goes EC Flat bet....with instructions how to win the session/or rather part
of it/D'Alambert,regardless of flat bet results...which is all explained in past sessions.
Test continues....just loud thinking.
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Ideal for D'Alambert with leveling progression
EC,flat bet
w=167
L =164
Rechecking it again,it is 170 wins,164 losses.
QuoteRuns like that are pretty scary , and just eat up the lunch you put on the plate before...I put in the plate freshest sessions on daily basis.....but you still didn't answer me from which plate you got
those 2 losing sessions......date and table please......so I can recheck it.Simply couse this bet just don't behaves as shown in your graphs.....am very curious to see it...waiting.
Wiesbaden 2013 January 21st Table B2AS (Airball)
Wiesbaden 2013 January 26th Table B2AS (Airball)
To me Airball is the same as live Dealer.....
Good luck with the numbers
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 25, 06:26 PM 2013
Wiesbaden 2013 January 21st Table B2AS (Airball)
Wiesbaden 2013 January 26th Table B2AS (Airball)
To me Airball is the same as live Dealer.....
Good luck with the numbers
The problem with you guys that you don't ever read my instruction....ONLY LIVE DEALER......to you it is the same so let it be.......it can never be same if those airball numbers are predetermined,or didn't you know
that.I'm playing it on daily every morning/just going there now/basis and only way you can beat it is;
playing the same machine every day.With that told you everything.
QuoteThe problem with you guys that you don't ever read my instruction
No !!! :xd: :lol:
Just making a Joke. Flat ;)
But please tell me how Airball is predetermined ??? (or anyone else who has knowledge over that !!!)
You want to tell me , that Airball (Touchbet) can land a number where ever it wants ????
Ray
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 26, 03:05 AM 2013
No !!! :xd: :LoL:
Just making a Joke. Flat ;)
But please tell me how Airball is predetermined ??? (or anyone else who has knowledge over that !!!)
You want to tell me , that Airball (Touchbet) can land a number where ever it wants ????
Ray
I think airballs output is random. They have an algorith to change the speed of the ball i.e the pressure of the airjet that sends it on its way.
They can certainly mess with rotor speeds because it cant cause the ball to leave the table. its covered over.
When people lose on airball they blame airball. When people lose on live dealer...hes an expert dealer who can spin for zero...when they lose online on RNG, the RNG is bent.
Thanks Turner :thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Feb 26, 03:26 AM 2013
I think airballs output is random. They have an algorith to change the speed of the ball i.e the pressure of the airjet that sends it on its way.
They can certainly mess with rotor speeds because it can't cause the ball to leave the table. its covered over.
When people lose on airball they blame airball. When people lose on live dealer...he's an expert dealer who can spin for zero...when they lose online on RNG, the RNG is bent.
It's good that you have said;I think the airball..........I know for the fact it is predetermined......next time you play watch closely how and where the ball lands......right in the middle of the pocket,without touching any walls.....correct???.......after the hit number is pronunced,the ball goes back into the machine.......magnets......therefore it can't be random...and this method is random vers.random....capito now.
Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 26, 03:05 AM 2013
No !!! :xd: :LoL:
Just making a Joke. Flat ;)
But please tell me how Airball is predetermined ??? (or anyone else who has knowledge over that !!!)
You want to tell me , that Airball (Touchbet) can land a number where ever it wants ????
Ray
Exactly like that......do closer study next time you play and you might even spot it,how the ball lands in the pockets,where it lands and stay there/even though bottom is askew/....but it never play against bet numbers....what the computer predicted,from first to the last spin IT CAN NOT FAIL.
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Flat bet
won 192
lost 189................10 zeros included
Have a look spin 80 in new attachm.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 26, 08:26 AM 2013
It's good that you have said;I think the airball..........I know for the fact it is predetermined......next time you play watch closely how and where the ball lands......right in the middle of the pocket,without touching any walls.....correct???.......after the hit number is pronunced,the ball goes back into the machine.......magnets......therefore it can't be random...and this method is random vers.random....capito now.
You used to come on here saying you had spent all day every day in the casino on the airball winning constantly every day. You were just lucky then because airball is bent...right?
Quote from: Turner on Feb 26, 02:09 PM 2013
You used to come on here saying you had spent all day every day in the casino on the airball winning constantly every day. You were just lucky then because airball is bent...right?
Only few hours every morning pal,not all day.....you just said that.
No I'm not lucky,I just know how with that particular airball...but
that's the another story....and if you would spend few hours every
day on the same machine,an took more then 40000 numbers from
it I assure you, even you could be a winner.Compact hard disc in the
machine have 1000000 spins,all predeterm.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 26, 02:38 PM 2013
Only few hours every morning pal,not all day.....you just said that.
No I'm not lucky,I just know how with that particular airball...but
that's the another story....and if you would spend few hours every
day on the same machine,an took more then 40000 numbers from
it I assure you, even you could be a winner.Compact hard disc in the
machine have 1000000 spins,all predeterm.
Dont assume anything Flat...its bad practice. Dont assume Im not a winner, dont assume every airball machine is the same as the one you play.
I certainly wouldnt of sat playing a bent airball for 40000 spins....thats for sure.
You got to go to work and earn for living....me have no such problems,that's why I can do that.
And I love doing it btw
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 26, 04:00 PM 2013
You got to go to work and earn for living....me have no such problems,that's why I can do that.
And I love doing it by the way
yeah...i feel a right mug with my Nice big income with bonuses...stability, pension, sick pay, private health care,
Even if I make a c*** up, I get paid. its aweful. And working with all those nice dressed respectable people. its total crap.
i really envy you Flat. :thumbsup:
Good luck to you and even more prosperity.......it is all behind me...2 pensions and 8 appartments renting.
Not bad for a ex croupier.But still would swap good casino trip for all that....life is too short.
Some say love is most important....to me it is also......but casino.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 26, 05:30 PM 2013
Good luck to you and even more prosperity.......it is all behind me...2 pensions and 8 appartments renting.
Not bad for a ex croupier.But still would swap good casino trip for all that....life is too short.
Some say love is most important....to me it is also......but casino.
As i guessed, you miss my point. My point is that you assume too much Flat. You shouldnt assume anything without total proof. its a failing to do so.
You assume all Airball is bent...you assume I dont win in casinos
You even assumed I work and have a Job. You dont know. You just assume.
....annnnyyyhooooo! back to the topic.
Has anyone made a tracker for this? Seems to be the in thing :-\
Quote from: Turner on Feb 26, 05:17 PM 2013
yeah...i feel a right mug with my Nice big income with bonuses...stability, pension, sick pay, private health care,
Even if I make a c*** up, I get paid. its aweful. And working with all those nice dressed respectable people. its total nonsense.
i really envy you Flat. :thumbsup:
Thought you were across the pond from me but now it kinda sounds like you work for the U.S. government...go figure You had me questioning with the nice dressed respectable people part...but I figured you just threw that in there for camoflage
19u+
playing with 1$ = 19 x 6 = 114$
sorry forgot excel
Quote from: Turner on Feb 26, 05:41 PM 2013
As i guessed, you miss my point. My point is that you assume too much Flat. You shouldnt assume anything without total proof. its a failing to do so.
You assume all Airball is bent...you assume I don't win in casinos
You even assumed I work and have a Job. You don't know. You just assume.
It is you that are assuming I'm assuming....am only talkin about known fact...that airball machines are throwing predeterm.numbers......Who cares whether you work or winning/lossing in casino....you see you are one assuming things.......maybe I assume this could show up as a HG.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 27, 07:10 AM 2013
It is you that are assuming I'm assuming....am only talkin about known fact...that airball machines are throwing predeterm.numbers......Who cares whether you work or winning/losing in casino....you see you are one assuming things.......maybe I assume this could show up as a holy grail.
---So I better stop testing it further......you will anyhow all forgot about it next day.
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 27, 08:36 AM 2013
---So I better stop testing it further......you will anyhow all forgot about it next day.
i will not :thumbsup:
Quote from: ilukan on Feb 26, 05:30 PM 2013
Good luck to you and even more prosperity.......it is all behind me...2 pensions and 8 appartments renting.
Not bad for a ex croupier.But still would swap good casino trip for all that....life is too short.
Some say love is most important....to me it is also......but casino.
There is an old saying that either you have luck in gambling or in love. What do you say? ;D
>:D I never had luck in either so that theory is a complete load of BS.
i like it
Hehe
Biagle
You must be an seriously misguided individual to fall for it.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Mar 01, 11:43 AM 2013
Hehe
Biagle
You must be an seriously misguided individual to fall for it.
His system is never anything special Rob.....all about kudos ...simple.