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Title: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 17, 06:05 PM 2013
OK

Probably shouldn't post this, but, what the heck?

As some of you know, I run the Excel Bot by Stef and Nice using the L v F system invented by FLATman.  I have run it thousand upon thousands of spins.  I've sit and watched it for hours upon hours.  One thing emerges.

The "Furthest" have a far higher hit rate that the "Lasts".  It is quite rare to see four Ls in a row and very common to see four Fs in a row.  Many Ls do not win the first time out and if they do, they "seem" to fail on the repeat try more than 50/50.  The Fs, on the other hand, hit quite often on the first and second try.  While looking at literally hundreds of Excel sheets, I can say the Fs definitely hit more than the Ls.  I could post a hundred screen shots, but that would only prove I found a hundred screen shots which support my position.

NOW........................................

Have I done a million spin study on this?  Nope!  It's just one of those things you see, confirmation bias notwithstanding.  Do I plan to play money on it?  Yep!  I do, and I will report.

What does this mean??  If it's true, and I believe it is, it would mean that older splits hit more frequently than newer splits.

This may only be on BVNZ, as that's the only place I play.

Sam
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: Spin4Fun on Mar 17, 07:15 PM 2013
Well with all the rest i have run with my bot, only can conclude that each casino (table) needs its own strategy parameter tweaks to make it work.
Where VB - RNG looks to be way more stable as real dealers...  probably not dealers, but the wheels teaks they do over time...
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: Steve on Mar 17, 09:21 PM 2013
There is always random fluctuation, even over 100,000 spins. You said "older splits hit more frequently than newer splits". I dont know of any REASON why this would happen so at this stage what you found is likely random fluctuation.

Are you testing this with RNG or live dealer spins?
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 17, 09:23 PM 2013
Steve

It is RNG.  I will have to see it fail to believe it.

Time will tell.  As will I.

Sam
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: GLC on Mar 17, 10:44 PM 2013
Someone else seems to think the same way.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10519.msg95768#msg95768 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10519.msg95768#msg95768)

Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 17, 11:40 PM 2013
GLC

Thank for that!!  I never had much faith in Turbo, but now that we think alike--why, the man's a genius! 

Seriously, there is something here.  Something to this.

I look at it further.

Sam
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: iggiv on Mar 17, 11:51 PM 2013
I dare to say that Turbo did not understand much more about roulette than absolutely most of the guys here.
Roughly on the same level of an average roulette player looking for Holy Grail. He couldn't get beyond it.
Mind u -- i am not trying to say about him or others that they are not smart. They can be extremely smart, but
their approach to roulette is totally wrong in my opinion. Why and how-- i already said many times and don't wish to elaborate again.
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: GLC on Mar 18, 12:32 AM 2013
Dear Iggiv,

Whatever you do, don't stop us from drifting away from what you believe. 

If we don't drift, there will be no reason to keep the forum open. :love:

Cheers my friend,

GLC
Title: Re: I'm about to make a statement using the word "definite".
Post by: iggiv on Mar 18, 07:28 PM 2013
i am just expressing my opinion, i am not trying to shut up anyone, buddy. Many think they are right-- i am no exception...But i do realize that i may be wrong as well.