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Title: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 18, 05:08 PM 2013
Steve,
I will let you be the first tester once I have it set up and ready to run.

After reading a lot of forums and books, testing systems out. I have designed an application that can be used as a tracker.
I am not going to tell you which site to play with it at. I will let you decide. If you think, you are losing after playing with this application. Send me the spins and I will tell you what you doing wrong.

I can't promise you to win all the time. However, if played smartly and with no greed in you, you will win 99% of the time. The amount of wins will depend on your own risk level.

You will ask what's in it for me...

7 days of free trial for you. What will this do?  This will make you at least $30.00 minimum per day at a $0.10 unit level.  I am sure we can all afford at least $60.00 Bank Roll.

After 7 days,  I am looking at a monthly fee of $19.99 to use the application. What will this do? Give you the ability to play and make some money.

After 30 days. You have a choice of monthly rate of $19.99 or outright buy it with an option of a bot. I will give you the same application that you have been running.

The outright price will be $199.99. This will be the same system you have used for the last month Let me know the casino you want the bot for.

I have been laid off. I am looking for a job. Its been hard for me to get one. This is my way of making some money and giving the same back to you all.


I would like to hear what everyone has to say.


Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 18, 05:20 PM 2013
I think you should provide a version of the tracker first, free for all to use (with a download key which You could supply, so only members can get it via a PM), and let us test your tracker.
Now of course, You could remove some or part of the trackers system, and therefore 'tease' us all to extremes, or maybe give us a 'half' system to trial.

Above all, what u need is credibility.
Some feedback, both positive, (balanced critic) and negative, as to how and why your system works.
A few guinea pigs should do the trick.
System sellers are not usually welcome within any forums.
[reveal] fully understand your need to 'earn' though.
Maybe you could give us some history, as to how U fashioned such a system.....[/reveal]
Cheers
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 18, 05:26 PM 2013
Azim

I'll certainly take you up on your offer.  I want it for Dublin, .10 table.

After the 7 days, I'll gladly PayPal you the 20 bucks.

I am TwoCatSam@cox.net.

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 18, 05:27 PM 2013
i,m game...just pm .d you my email...
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 18, 05:29 PM 2013
What Chrisbis says is fair enough I think Azim.


With good feedback from respected members we know you are being sincere and generous.


If there was a holy grail then this would be the way for all to benefit, for a longtime : )
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: maestro on Mar 18, 07:24 PM 2013
quick question@azim....what are you betting even chances or numbers..thanks
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 12:03 AM 2013
Quote from: maestro on Mar 18, 07:24 PM 2013
quick question@azim....what are you betting even chances or numbers..thanks


For people that want to play even chance there is an option for even chance.  All Six..  It also tells you how many units to bet.. you decide the value of each unit.

For inside numbers I haven't done any splits or corners or streets..straight numbers only.

The dozens... It has the best feature..  I think,  It keeps track of betting pattern based on previous numbers. It has a checking mechanism, which gets triggered to say please stop.
The casino software has decided to play against you. (Which means you have picked the wrong casino, you will never win there).

It does the same with the straight numbers.  If you are brave like I have been, There are 11 numbers you will get at that point. Bet on those 11 numbers and within 3 to 4 spins with a 3-4 step minimal progression you will keep hitting those numbers. Once it gets to be a normal numbers, the application eases up on the betting aggressiveness and the 11 numbers are dropped and you play the application way again.. 11 numbers will keep changing  based on previous spins.  For people who don't like sleepers, I dare you to give me any spins you want and I will turn you a profit with this application. 

Like I said, I am not associated with any casinos. I will let you pick and choose any casinos you want.

PLEASE REMEMBER WITH THIS APPLICATION ITS YOUR OWN GREED THAT WILL GET YOU.

I should have things finalized and in place by THURSDAY or FRIDAY.  I am not giving any bots as yet. I want everyone to understand what the application is doing before buying a bot for this application.

I am not here to scam anyone at all. I am out to protect people thinking that online can be beatable without any tools.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 12:08 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 18, 05:20 PM 2013
I think you should provide a version of the tracker first, free for all to use (with a download key which You could supply, so only members can get it via a PM), and let us test your tracker.
Now of course, You could remove some or part of the trackers system, and therefore 'tease' us all to extremes, or maybe give us a 'half' system to trial.

Above all, what u need is credibility.
Some feedback, both positive, (balanced critic) and negative, as to how and why your system works.
A few guinea pigs should do the trick.
System sellers are not usually welcome within any forums.
[reveal] fully understand your need to 'earn' though.
Maybe you could give us some history, as to how U fashioned such a system.....[/reveal]
Cheers

I totally agree with you. I did say I will give it for free for the first 7 days.  I am not telling you which casino to play at. You can pick any you want. 
That's how much faith I have in the application.

Why am I giving it away(Yes with a price).  Like I said I have read books and forums. It's not fair to have people share their losses and tell everyone why and how they lost(playing systems).  Someone like me coming along, picking pieces up and putting them together and making fortune alone. I am sure Casino's are there to make money and I think all of us want to too in our own little ways.

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 12:42 AM 2013
I hope it's better than this...

Quote from: Azim on Jan 11, 06:39 AM 2013
This is the best I can come up with:

For single zero roulette.
Stake
---------
Stake 1 unit on Ist Dozen (1-12)
Stake 1 unit on 2nd Dozen (13-24)
Stake 0.5 unit on numbers 25-30
Stake 0.5 unit on ZERO
You are covering 30 numbers + the zero for a 3 unit total stake
You only win when the 0 comes up.
Play same stake every spin until you win or losses are -18 (end of session)
Most spins you will get your 3 units returned.
If the number spun is 31 to 36 you of course show a loss of 3 units.
If 0 comes up with no losses you win 15 units
if 0 comes up and you have had 1 loss then you win 12 units
if 0 comes up and you have had 2 losses then you win 9 units
if 0 comes up and you have had 3 losses then you win 6 units
if 0 comes up and you have had 4 losses then you win 3 units
if 0 comes up and you have had 5 losses then you will be LEVEL
The 6th loss results in a net loss of 18 units. End of session.
It can be played with low value or high value chips. You only play 3 units per spin.
Your max profit per session is 15 units. (Zero came up with no losses)
Well, there it is, a simple staking plan without using many chips.
You need patience and tolerance though whilst you wait for the zero to show up.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 01:11 AM 2013
Quote from: Skakus on Mar 19, 12:42 AM 2013
I hope it's better than this...

Awesome... Man  I love you...

If you going to quote something  please quote in it's full context.

here is the full context.

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20184.0 (link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20184.0)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 01:48 AM 2013
 
Hahahahaha! :)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 02:21 AM 2013
You think it's funny cause you can't get to see the Kitchen work done before paying.    8)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 03:02 AM 2013
 
Why would I need to pay you for a possible losing system when I have an armament of perfectly good winning systems of my own?

If you have an unfailing winning system as you claim then you should play it for a lengthy period to secure your financial security.

After you have accomplished that simple goal then you should consider selling the system to others for benevolent rather than financial reasons.


I know of a guy who chopped his dog's back leg off so he could make more money begging on the streets, you wouldn't do that would you?

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 03:44 AM 2013
@ Azim

I have read the 'full context' of your January post, and I get what you mean....you were showing your version of a full felt coverage system in response to the stringbeanpc members post @Vlsforum.
--------------------"--------------------

I'm glad U agree with the need for us here to study this tracker method of yours...... maybe you would send a few of us interested parties (myself included) the tracker on Friday, and we could post results for U here.
Don't mind signing (electronic signature) an N.D.A. to cover your copyright on this matter, and just post results, and therefore not reverse engineer via description to a third party.
It actual sounds (from your opening remark) that U realise what You have in your back pocket is not an H.G.....though only time would tell.
One thing you haven't stated is whether (in your honest opinion) is works best on Live, Airball or True RNG venues?
By true, I'm mean places like BetVoyager.
And whether D.S. has any play in this 11 chip technique. (Hence I'm wondering if you are playing a sector of the wheel, centering on a Pivot point, esp with U offering it to Steve first...he is a real wheel kind-a guy, me thinks!)

Anyways.....please do continue with this most interesting avenue you have bought to the fore.

Cheers Chris

Edit:
BTW...I'm a kitchen installer for my sins (and other stuff too)
so Ur ding-dong on the Kitchen make over with Skakus is making me smile!  :D
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 19, 03:46 AM 2013
Quote from: Skakus on Mar 19, 03:02 AM 2013



I know of a guy who chopped his dog's back leg off
In HINDsight....that was a bad idea :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 03:50 AM 2013
@Turner...........
Its a sorry TAIL for sure.......

Sounds like it left the owner with Big Issue's
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 19, 04:00 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 03:50 AM 2013
@Turner...........
Its a sorry TAIL for sure.......

Sounds like it left the owner with Big Issue's
It BEGGERS belief
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 04:15 AM 2013
Quote from: Turner on Mar 19, 03:46 AM 2013
In HINDsight....that was a bad idea :thumbsup:

Yeah, for the dog... But the guy got rich and then never put a FOOT wrong.  :twisted:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: buffalowizard on Mar 19, 05:02 AM 2013
I simply labrADORE these kind of stories!




(I'll get my coat)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 05:19 AM 2013
Quote from: buffalowizard on Mar 19, 05:02 AM 2013
(I'll get my coat)

...and that's one hell of a coat BW.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 05:24 AM 2013
Apparently the dog took his owner to court to get some re-dress.
The prosecution had few leads to go on....
The evidence was patch-y at best......
.
The presiding judge said the plaintiff hadn't a leg to stand on.....
and the case was thrown out.

At a press conference after.............the dog thought he had received woof justice.
[reveal]this topic really has gone to the dogs¡!!
[/reveal]
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 19, 07:36 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 05:24 AM 2013
[reveal]this topic really has gone to the dogs¡!!
[/reveal]

I'm glad to have played my part in running with the fox hunt!
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 10:04 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 03:44 AM 2013
@ Azim


One thing you haven't stated is whether (in your honest opinion) is works best on Live, Airball or True RNG venues?
By true, I'm mean places like BetVoyager.
And whether D.S. has any play in this 11 chip technique. (Hence I'm wondering if you are playing a sector of the wheel, centering on a Pivot point, esp with U offering it to Steve first...he is a real wheel kind-a guy, me thinks!)

Anyways.....please do continue with this most interesting avenue you have bought to the fore.

Cheers Chris

Edit:
by the way...I'm a kitchen installer for my sins (and other stuff too)
so your ding-dong on the Kitchen make over with Skakus is making me smile!  :D

Thanks.  I have offered it to Steve realizing he is a live wheel person.  I have used the system on all 3, live, Air ball and RNG. It has produced the same results.
Chris,  I don't want to mention sites for the reason being is: MOST APPLICATIONS LIKE MINE HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON WHICH SITE TO PLAY. TO ME THAT IS A SCAM.  I COULD BE WRONG. Not trying to attack anyone.  To me why should an application work against one wheel and not the other.

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 19, 11:00 AM 2013
i for one am looking forward to it..as chris says results only to be posted if needed...


surely there must be some more testers ...nothing to lose but a bit of time...same as


every other system...this is just the same....not the system itself but making the


effort to at least test....
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 19, 12:57 PM 2013
I have volunteered.  I play Dublin.  I'll study it, play it, and report honestly.

Guys, from what I glean, this is a program you install on your computer with a seven-day ticker.  Seven days from install, it shuts down.

First thing I thought of........is this a Trojan or some such that raids your computer for information?  Guess what?  I have a "blank" computer with virtually nothing on it to steal.  It is dedicated to just such things.

On a sad, sour note we have people here standing on corners with very small children begging for money.  I'm talking toddlers. Sometimes a family with two children.  I don't doubt the story of the dog.  A guy threw one off an overpass into traffic just the other day. 

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: sturrock on Mar 19, 02:00 PM 2013
I'm quite happy to test your "bot" and give an honest opinion 
Just let me know what to do next
Thanks
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: maestro on Mar 19, 03:05 PM 2013
azim i do not get it....you say is good app so stick 60 in and make 30 profit,and so on i just do not get it ...since you done this topic till now you couldve have 1000...if is goooood :-\
p.s i do not need your app...
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 03:15 PM 2013
Quote from: maestro on Mar 19, 03:05 PM 2013
azim i do not get it....you say is good app so stick 60 in and make 30 profit,and so on i just do not get it ...since you done this topic till now you couldve have 1000...if is goooood :-\
p.s i do not need your app...

Fair enough.  I guess.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 19, 04:10 PM 2013
Its allways the hardest sell. Selling to proffessionals or experts. :-\
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 04:50 PM 2013
Quote from: Turner on Mar 19, 04:10 PM 2013
Its allways the hardest sell. Selling to proffessionals or experts. :-\


True. But if you have something that you know is worth it.  They are the ones who will pay the price. Since they can test it better than anyone.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 19, 04:57 PM 2013
I WILL PAY THE PRICE!!

I'll PayPal you 20 to see the darn thing.

What's the problem?????

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 19, 05:10 PM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 19, 04:57 PM 2013
I WILL PAY THE PRICE!!

I'll PayPal you 20 to see the darn thing.

What's the problem? ??? ?

Sam




sam lol you made me chuckle...we will test as agreed....if allowed...funny


how things are turning  :ooh:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 19, 05:50 PM 2013
Azmin put your application where your mouth is and post the dam thing! All this Hype is not giving you any credibility in my eyes. You can prove me wrong and let me test it but I know you won't because I accused you for hyping. May be you can prove me wrong twice?

I doubt that too by the way. So I'm right? who knows? we shall see  :-\
Title: Re: Azim wants to delete the thread.
Post by: Azim on Mar 19, 10:12 PM 2013
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 19, 09:41 PM 2013
So just save it whoever is interested...I think he has his reasons...so save the pages before they are removed.

YES.  I want this post removed.  However i will be sending Soggett a tracker for link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11565.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11565.0)
and  for TwoCatsam   a replacement of link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12170.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12170.0) that he paid someone else the money for.

If you both don't receive this by Monday 25 March 2013.  Sam I will make sure you get your $30.00 from me as a gift..
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 01:24 AM 2013
so are me,sam and chrisbis able to test your tracker out when ready?... :-\
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 06:32 AM 2013
For those testing..  I only have one system.....  I have removed a few features,  1). auto picking winning numbers. 2). No testing on the site you play. 3) No Even Chance. 4) no 11 number betting when nothing cheap to play on the table is working.

I will let you decide. From my testing what you have, if u don't get greedy will still make you money.
Title: wellcome to the scammer world!
Post by: catalyst on Mar 20, 07:16 AM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 20, 06:32 AM 2013
if u don't get greedy will still make you money.

a winning system does not bind greedy. playing for $30! if more then we will be called greedy!
Title: Re: Scam on horizon?
Post by: atlantis on Mar 20, 07:21 AM 2013
I'm of same opinion as catalyst...
Even so, would love to see a video of this in action.   :)
A.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 20, 07:33 AM 2013
Something doesn't seem right here.

I think the member Azim is going about this all the wrong way.
And deleting threads isn't helpful.
.
Dedicated study, report of outline results (not necessary to publish everything..........
- they can be forwarded to any interested parties in a PM, or even shown in a NoN-listed YouTube video that only invities can view) is what's required right now.

There should be a protocol for this type of activity or else the Topic Author  could be tarnished...and that maybe unmerited give his previous postings.
I have read all of Azim previous....and the word 'Scam' does not come to mind AT ALL.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 11:14 AM 2013
Thanks Chris.

Here is something I sent to someone a week ago. Never heard back.

Quote from: Azim on Mar 04, 06:57 PM 2013
Send me the details..  Pay me anything you want as long as it's $30.00 and over.  You decide when I give you the product.
Just send me the details for each tracking system.


I am sure, Sam will agree he had to send 50% in advance.

Anyways.  This is the best I can do.  I don't have to sell it at all. Thought I would be nice to everyone. Turns out people who are nice finish last.

After disclosing this. I am bringing this to an end. I am not replying anything to anyone.

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: buffalowizard on Mar 20, 11:27 AM 2013
The ending is always the same...
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 11:35 AM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Jan 24, 01:05 AM 2013
Hello all,

I am trying to understand what you all mean by a bot playing different systems.

Here is a scenerio I have:

If i am a bot playing. I see that a section with 12 numbers has not hit. I play that section.
Keeping the same tracked spins now I see a 9 number section that has not hit. I play that section.
Spins go by. I see a 6 section number that has not hit. I play that. So should the bot.
If the tracking finds Dozen 1 and 2 are hitting. Dozen 3 hasn't hit. Depending on your aggresiveness you play the 3rd dozen. So should the bot.

Isn't this what a bot playing different system does?

Please correct me if I am wrong?


Follow this thread... 
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 11:43 AM 2013
Here are my own words:

Quote from: Azim on Jan 24, 08:53 AM 2013

Do you mnd sharing what different strategies, you intend to play?

I think building a bot playing different strategies is possible. It all boils down to if you going to be lucky or do you have the skills to say enough is enough and quit for the day.

Has anyone really found methods(I ain't calling them systems) that win in short term? Like 150-200+ spins.
I would love to see at least 4 to 5 methods that win in a span of 150-200 spins. If anyone can provide me links to thoses methods and the description of how to play them. I am willing to share the bot with them.

TO EVERYONE I AM NOT SYAING THE BOT WILL BE A WINNER. ALL I AM AFTER IS THE BOT TO PLAY 5-6+ METHODS AT THE SAME TIME.

Turns out that with 10-15+ yrs of programming. Life time obsession with computers.  Working here and there, reading books and listening to you all about the spins we all claim that kill us in the long run, are trackable. You have to know when and where to go after those spins. I did say $60.00 bankroll. You can see it on there.

Quote from: maestro on Mar 19, 03:05 PM 2013
azim i do not get it....you say is good app so stick 60 in and make 30 profit,and so on i just do not get it ...since you done this topic till now you couldve have 1000...if is goooood :-\
p.s i do not need your app...

LAST WORD I WASN'T OUT TO SCAM ANYONE.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 20, 12:01 PM 2013
Perhaps I've misunderstood.  I thought a person would get a full-featured tracker for seven days to try out.  That person would need a $60 bankroll and should make $30 per day.  At the end of seven days, the person had the option to rent the tracker for around $20 per month.   Or buy a bot.

Anything that makes 50% of bankroll daily is remarkable, to say the least.

Did I read the opening post to this thread wrong?

Anyone?

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 12:04 PM 2013
No sam. YOU ARE RIGHT, I had to do the key and it's been giving eeryone trouble.

Don't want to send something that isn't working.

I will probably turn it into a web based application, where people can sign in and use it..
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: maestro on Mar 20, 01:07 PM 2013
azim you wouldve been 30000 ahead by now with your app... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
all end the same :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
@sam your English is wrIGHTte sam that was what azim said when he presented his {APP} :twisted:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ddarko on Mar 20, 01:32 PM 2013
not saying Azim is a scammer or anything like that, but something doesn't add up here....... :o

O0
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 20, 01:40 PM 2013
Maybe it's just a bug.  He'll get it fixed.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 20, 01:50 PM 2013
@Azim.

My friend........
Why don't you start a new thread....and then lock it.
Linked from there to a results &analysis topic where testers can put down their thoughts.
You need concrete validated postings of testers outcomes.
That be all be specified by you (&with help if you need it)
You could set a benchmark standard here that all other tracker offers can be set against.
Don't let detractors pull you down.......but we are by very nature......a suspicious lot!!
.
I for one would love to test your fully fledged tracker/bot out for the forum...............
and for you
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 02:31 PM 2013
Here is something for all to use.  I am honestly done with this thread..  This was one of the systems in my application. I found this on this forum and I am giving it back to you all.

Here we go:

There is no key in this version.  If you can't load it.  Download runtime from microsoft with this link

link:://:.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555 (link:://:.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 20, 03:23 PM 2013
I can not get it to download.......  :P
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 20, 03:29 PM 2013
Hello Azim,


I will let you in on a little secret : ) you need tough skin on this forum.


Perhaps look at your posting and this thread in another light.


You have a winning system, you know this. You would like to share this so that others can prosper as well while at the same time generating some funds in a fair business fashion. Before even starting your thread you can come to the conclusion that things will go pretty much along these lines. Some for, some against, some unfriendly, some friendly etc etc. 


I would try to keep smiling and enjoy the ride. Would be a shame if you left. Another sad day in roulette. Another champ, gone.






To TwoCat:


Love you on the forum!


I to understood the proposition in the same way you did.


Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 03:35 PM 2013
Quote from: amk on Mar 20, 03:29 PM 2013
Hello Azim,


I will let you in on a little secret : ) you need tough skin on this forum.


Perhaps look at your posting and this thread in another light.


You have a winning system, you know this. You would like to share this so that others can prosper as well while at the same time generating some funds in a fair business fashion. Before even starting your thread you can come to the conclusion that things will go pretty much along these lines. Some for, some against, some unfriendly, some friendly etc etc. 


I would try to keep smiling and enjoy the ride. Would be a shame if you left. Another sad day in roulette. Another champ, gone.






To TwoCat:


Love you on the forum!


I to understood the proposition in the same way you did.

Honestly  I was expecting this.  However the part I don't understand is .... The key has to be there for me to make sure it only works for 7 days.

I have 3 of my own machines... Plus 5 other friends.. who haven't had a problem with the key..  Why does everyone here have a problem with the key.


I was told it doesnt work with the key... I ain't going to give something out and not have a protection in place...  I no dumb  either..  RIGHT!!!!
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 20, 03:46 PM 2013
I think you need to send it to someone via email. Links on the forum often do not work.


Has Nickmsi tried this?


If he can't get it going there is really something not working.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 03:57 PM 2013
I have never asked for money in advance.. I don't expect people (i wouldn't do it myself). to send money first.

Whoever I have offered to write systems for can vouch, this I have told them to use it and send me the money if they like it.

I did that for 2 reasons: 1 was to find a good systems around. 2). So I can get some credibility.

I did the RX coding for the thread EARLY X-MAS GIFT, it turned out to be one of the key systems in my application. I got it from this forum and I am giving the same back.

There is no checking mechanism in this application all it does is tracks numbers, calculates progression. No other checking mechanism.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 20, 04:03 PM 2013
Did you see this thread I posted, could it help any?


link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11753.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11753.0)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 04:16 PM 2013
Yes I looked at that. I was too occupied in dealing with my checks on making sure the site was legit. Once I got that in place everything else worked out fine.

I think people have to understand. Yes not all systems work. They lose in the long run but you have to be smart and move at the right time.

It's we all can cross the bridge...If the river overflows we get wet... We don't know when the river will flood, we try and cross the bridge before that happens.

Having said that, what happens if we get caught when the river floods. We try and make our way out.  Thats what my logic is with the application.

If you get caught in the bad run, there are triggers in place to rescue you and if you still want to carry on and lose, I can't do anything about it.

Look at my account pages i have posted.. I got caught a couple of times.. i risked the floods and managed to come out. I could have drowned too.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 20, 04:27 PM 2013
Quote from: ddarko on Mar 20, 01:32 PM 2013
not saying Azim is a scammer or anything like that, but something doesn't add up here....... :o

O0

All scammers have to start somewhere. Just saying  ;)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 20, 04:32 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 20, 02:31 PM 2013
Here is something for all to use.  I am honestly done with this thread..  This was one of the systems in my application. I found this on this forum and I am giving it back to you all.

Here we go:

There is no key in this version.  If you can't load it.  Download runtime from microsoft with this link

link:://:.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555 (link:://:.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555)

So are all your systems in this application ripped from this thread, other forums or do you claim something new and fresh that you alone have devised?
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 04:33 PM 2013
Quote from: DuffMiver on Mar 20, 04:27 PM 2013
All scammers have to start somewhere. Just saying  ;)

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU...   IF I WAS A SCAMMER I WOULD HAVE SAID YOU CAN ONLY PLAY AT e.f BV and or somewhere else.

I AM SAYING YOU CAN PLAY WITH IT WHERE EVER YOU WANT... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCAMMERS AND LEGIT OWNERSHIP.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 20, 04:33 PM 2013
I think with the amount of rain we have had dumped on us
in the United Kingdom over the last year or so...................... the wet/bridge analogy is like water of a ducks back !!

[reveal]or should that be "Bridge Over Troubled Water..............I will lay Thee Down............."
Sing along now!1! LoL[/reveal]
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 04:35 PM 2013
Quote from: DuffMiver on Mar 20, 04:32 PM 2013
So are all your systems in this application ripped from this thread, other forums or do you claim something new and fresh that you alone have devised?

The check on online site to be legit is my own logic...  And others are from books and Gambling material.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ulsteroptom on Mar 20, 04:40 PM 2013
hey Azim

Just a quick question, does this tracker have anything to do with the tracker you were going to build for me, apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but i was trying something else,

just wondering, as i noticed that post you had sent to me, and seen that you posted that on this thread, and got me thinking

it is a good system no holy grail, but good if the right dealer
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ddarko on Mar 20, 04:42 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 20, 04:33 PM 2013
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU...   IF I WAS A SCAMMER I WOULD HAVE SAID YOU CAN ONLY PLAY AT e.f BV and or somewhere else.

I AM SAYING YOU CAN PLAY WITH IT WHERE EVER YOU WANT... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCAMMERS AND LEGIT OWNERSHIP.

Erm.... No that isn't the difference. It's a difference not the difference.

O0
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 20, 04:44 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 20, 04:35 PM 2013
The check on online site to be legit is my own logic...  And others are from books and Gambling material.

Ok Best of luck with it. Hope it goes well for you  :)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 20, 04:49 PM 2013
How many spins did you test ulsteroptom?


If this can be tested at least once over 5000 placed bets or perhaps 100,000 spins then we have a strong starting point for further developments.


How many spins or bets have you reviewed so far Azim?




Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ulsteroptom on Mar 20, 04:59 PM 2013
not that many, but i have played for real money

it works but then there are also draw downs (like the other day i lost 200 pounds (silly mistake, if i had a stop loss and retracked I would have been good), still up 650 though cashed out, its about knowing when to stop and when to continue with certain dealers, if it is the same idea, its about tracking a dealer signature, my idea atleast was inspired by one of konfu seds posts
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ulsteroptom on Mar 20, 05:02 PM 2013
just to clarify i do not have this tracker, all my tracking is done manually at the moment, i did try to get someone to build a simple tracker in excel, azim did offer, but i got preoccupied with something else and that fell through, i was just curious if his tracker had anything to do with the idea, it could be something completely different though
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ulsteroptom on Mar 20, 05:05 PM 2013
reply #40
caught my attention as this was a PM i had received from azim, i was just curious
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 10:33 PM 2013
Quote from: amk on Mar 20, 04:49 PM 2013
How many spins did you test ulsteroptom?


If this can be tested at least once over 5000 placed bets or perhaps 100,000 spins then we have a strong starting point for further developments.


How many spins or bets have you reviewed so far Azim?

I have been told it has made someone 8 times their bankroll with 1 loss.

Look at my statements..  I have only deposited more than $60.00 twice, that was because i had a friend over and wanted to be greedy. I lost $250.00 first time and I think same night after a few hours or so we  ended up depositing $150.00 or something to that nature and withdrew a good chunk.

I have not deposited more than $60.00 and have made more than 3-4 times the bankroll... I was also playing $0.10 tables.  Now all I see are $1.00 tables. Which is the other reason why i decided to open up with it.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 20, 10:37 PM 2013
Quote from: ulsteroptom on Mar 20, 05:02 PM 2013
just to clarify i do not have this tracker, all my tracking is done manually at the moment, i did try to get someone to build a simple tracker in excel, azim did offer, but i got preoccupied with something else and that fell through, i was just curious if his tracker had anything to do with the idea, it could be something completely different though

I also told you to pay me after you have tested the system and like it?
Title: scammer's mechanism
Post by: catalyst on Mar 21, 10:12 AM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 20, 10:37 PM 2013
I also told you to pay me after you have tested the system and like it?

just yesterday he locked the topic and said he has done with the forum. now he come back again. because forum has got lot of  'hot frog' to guide to oblivion and he is jobless and he needs money, instead of playing his own system to generate money, he is begging $20 from us! another albalaha in the forum! Azim (the great one in arabic)! :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: scammer's mechanism
Post by: Azim on Mar 24, 01:22 AM 2013
Quote from: catalyst on Mar 21, 10:12 AM 2013

just yesterday he locked the topic and said he has done with the forum. now he come back again. because forum has got lot of  'hot frog' to guide to oblivion and he is jobless and he needs money, instead of playing his own system to generate money, he is begging $20 from us! another albalaha in the forum! Azim (the great one in arabic)! :twisted: :twisted:

I never begged anyone for money.  I was willing to share my wisdom and let you win before you paid me anything. 

The great one yes. I was trying to be nice to you all but got shoot. Not my loss.

I have kept my promise in giving Sam his clicker and I gave you all the the system I found on this forum.

The reason I gave Sam what I have given him to use for a while. I am pretty sure he will be happy with this one. It is bug free too.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 24, 09:12 AM 2013
"What we got here.............is a failure to cmmunicate."

Azim

I do not need a clicker.  I have one, a very good one, that Vic built for me.

I thought we were supposed to get a 7 day trial on something that would cause us to buy a bot.  Something that made money.

I have been nice to you.  Your e-mail to me was harsh and totally without cause. 

I would still like the see the program/tracker that you spoke about in post one.

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 24, 12:43 PM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 24, 09:12 AM 2013
"What we got here.............is a failure to cmmunicate."

Azim

I do not need a clicker.  I have one, a very good one, that Vic built for me.

I thought we were supposed to get a 7 day trial on something that would cause us to buy a bot.  Something that made money.

I have been nice to you.  Your e-mail to me was harsh and totally without cause. 

I would still like the see the program/tracker that you spoke about in post one.

Sam

I tried sending it out. People are having issues with the key. As soon as that's resolved I will have it out.

For those who think I was a scammer. I do and always will put my money where my mouth is.

Here is another withdrawal after a deposit of $100.00


Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 24, 03:16 PM 2013
Could I suggest that U operate it via a database and U could switch anyone's access on/off as U see fit?

Other wise, I would like to offer act as an independent tester, and monitor Ur tracker.
I offer U $10 PayPal payment now, to use for test procedures only.
I'm not actively playing the game with real monies at the moment, as I don't have a healthy BR yet to use.

[reveal] The $10 is just to show real intent, as well as signing any NDA u wish to forward[/reveal]
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 24, 03:23 PM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 24, 03:16 PM 2013
Could I suggest that U operate it via a database and You could switch anyone's access on/off as U see fit?


Yes, Chrisbis. I am turning it into a web based application as we speak.  Have to deal with the technical issue, bandwith, number of users, etc etc..

It will be a while before this can became a reality again.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Mar 24, 03:28 PM 2013
Unless Ur advertising elsewhere, (and I wouldn't blame u), I would say somewhere around the 50 user mark to start, and build from there.
U still need users tho, so the offer stands.....

just trying to help U move this forward.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 24, 03:44 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 24, 03:23 PM 2013

It will be a while before this can became a reality again.

Azim

I would ask you, when was this a reality in the first place?

I would also ask you to show me any post in which I called you a scammer.

All you sent me was a clicker and it does not work!  Would you like me to make a video and show the forum it does not work?  You are the one who has not lived up to your first post of this thread.

I have offered to pay you--even buy your bot, if a bot exists--and I have not gotten a trial software from you.

I will tell you--with your attitude you won't get far.  Most of the guys on this forum know when they are being given the old "carrot and stick" treatment.

As to the MAC address, you were totally clear that you wanted MY MAC address, which I sent.  You claim I sent you three.  No, I sent you two. 

So, the questions is:  When will you deliver as promised?

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 25, 01:34 AM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 24, 03:44 PM 2013

So, the questions is:  When will you deliver as promised?

Sam

Well, I tried to give you the clicker, I stand corrected, thought I read one of your posts saying the clicker you have doesn't work.

All I have to say to all these is, I am turning it into a web based application. Once I am ready I will let everyone know.

Yes I tried sending everyone a trial version but seems there was a bug and people were having issues with it.

To all, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS SORRY. LET ME RE-VISIT WHAT I HAVE DONE. As soon as it's ready I will let you all know.

Sorry again to have caused any issues.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 25, 02:02 AM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 24, 03:44 PM 2013
Azim

I would ask you, when was this a reality in the first place?

I would also ask you to show me any post in which I called you a scammer.

All you sent me was a clicker and it does not work!  Would you like me to make a video and show the forum it does not work?  You are the one who has not lived up to your first post of this thread.

I have offered to pay you--even buy your bot, if a bot exists--and I have not gotten a trial software from you.

I will tell you--with your attitude you won't get far.  Most of the guys on this forum know when they are being given the old "carrot and stick" treatment.

As to the MAC address, you were totally clear that you wanted MY MAC address, which I sent.  You claim I sent you three.  No, I sent you two. 

So, the questions is:  When will you deliver as promised?

Sam


Sam,  you are offering me money for something that you haven't seen. I have sent you 2 applications, which don't work. Yet you willing to pay me money. How does that make sense, can you explain? If 2 of my applications don't work, why would I want to send you a 3rd application for you to tell me it doesn't work.
The clicker I sent you doesn't work and you have a better one than mine. So I wasted my time and yours. I am sorry to have wasted yours.

I am not a con man and I am not out to make a quick few bucks. BTW. 80 people for $20.00 a month is $`1600.00  I just made that today on 1 site, with a deposit of $100.00. 

Quote from: catalyst on Mar 21, 10:12 AM 2013

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 25, 03:39 AM 2013
I'm done with you.

Good luck!

Sm
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 25, 02:21 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 25, 02:02 AM 2013

I am not a con man and I am not out to make a quick few bucks. by the way. 80 people for $20.00 a month is $`1600.00  I just made that today on 1 site, with a deposit of $100.00. 


Why bother trying to get $20 per month from people if you are making that sort of return?
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: rolf-harris on Mar 25, 04:10 PM 2013
From the outset I thought that this thread had all the hallmarks of a wind-up.
I suppose you initially have to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when it drags on and on with no substantial movement from the first post, . . . We've seen it before and we will be duped again.
Thats how it goes. . .
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 25, 05:15 PM 2013
Here is my feedback...

Completly clear head here Azim. I would never pay anyone anything from a bit of text in a forum. i just wouldnt get involved....and i didn't

So...like I said, with a clear head, I can't say if you are a sharkster or not as I can't accuse you of anything from a bit of text in a forum either.

One thing i can say though is that you are no salesman....and most definatly no marketeer.

that's was a f*ck up...I I may say so. First impressions are soooo important.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ddarko on Mar 25, 05:55 PM 2013
Quote from: DuffMiver on Mar 25, 02:21 PM 2013
Why bother trying to get $20 per month from people if you are making that sort of return?

the only question anybody needs to read on this thread

nice work Duff  :thumbsup:

O0
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 25, 06:27 PM 2013
Quote from: Turner on Mar 25, 05:15 PM 2013
Here is my feedback...

Completly clear head here Azim. I would never pay anyone anything from a bit of text in a forum. i just wouldnt get involved....and i didn't

So...like I said, with a clear head, I can't say if you are a sharkster or not as I can't accuse you of anything from a bit of text in a forum either.

One thing i can say though is that you are no salesman....and most definatly no marketeer.

that's was a f*ck up...I I may say so. First impressions are soooo important.

I do accept what you have said here. I wasn't trying to be rich overnight. All I wanted was a steady income and not to worry about gambling.
I was wrong and I got myself screwed by making people think I was out to scam.
Thanks for your honest opinion.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 25, 06:35 PM 2013
Quote from: DuffMiver on Mar 25, 02:21 PM 2013
Why bother trying to get $20 per month from people if you are making that sort of return?


Would be cool if we could just leave short voice messages instead of typing : )


Duffmiver,

theoretically if there is a "grail" then what Azim is presenting is perhaps the only way to let others benefit as well.

Although I still believe an official grail will only get minimal attention. Someone posts the method stating that it has passed 1 million spins. Only another programmer can confirm the results. If we are lucky this second programmer does confirm the results on a post. Now only a handful of members will actually play this method. It will take at least a year for a few players to report their results. Even then only a few more members will play it.

We can only wait and see what Azim will present. No one has lost any money yet and when the web program is ready there will be members who will test the method/program first.


Either way, I think I will wait 6 months to a year before using the program when it is ready.


Will stay tuned : )
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 25, 08:02 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 25, 06:27 PM 2013
I do accept what you have said here. I wasn't trying to be rich overnight. All I wanted was a steady income and not to worry about gambling.
I was wrong and I got myself screwed by making people think I was out to scam.
Thanks for your honest opinion.
Well you have humility...which is a winner in my book...what ever thats worth!
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Turner on Mar 25, 08:19 PM 2013
Quote from: amk on Mar 25, 06:35 PM 2013

Would be cool if we could just leave short voice messages instead of typing : )


Duffmiver,

theoretically if there is a "grail" then what Azim is presenting is perhaps the only way to let others benefit as well.

Although I still believe an official grail will only get minimal attention. Someone posts the method stating that it has passed 1 million spins. Only another programmer can confirm the results. If we are lucky this second programmer does confirm the results on a post. Now only a handful of members will actually play this method. It will take at least a year for a few players to report their results. Even then only a few more members will play it.

We can only wait and see what Azim will present. No one has lost any money yet and when the web program is ready there will be members who will test the method/program first.


Either way, I think I will wait 6 months to a year before using the program when it is ready.


Will stay tuned : )
I'm sure the first person to use the phrase "holy grail" when refering to roulette meant it in an acheivable goal gained from hard study of the roulette scriptures. I'm sure, if they are stll alive, they have realised it was that of myth and legend from a less learned society...as is the Arc of the Covenant
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 25, 08:35 PM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 25, 06:27 PM 2013.
I was wrong and I got myself screwed by making people think I was out to scam.

Who screwed you and what did they screw you out of?

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 25, 08:46 PM 2013
Its all relative Turner.


I wonder how many spins Einstein was trying to pass : )



Imagine if he said that roulette could be won? (with this I mean within the casino imposed limits)


What would this mean?
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 25, 08:52 PM 2013
I think he was referring to himself TwoCat.

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 25, 09:18 PM 2013
Turner, concerning the Arc. Sorry to get off topic Azim.


Is it possible for us to build a device which produces electricity? yes


If it could produce this energy for free then I would call it a Arc : )


Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: iggiv on Mar 25, 10:22 PM 2013
by Holy Grail they usually mean something that wins all the time. Just going up and up and up. whenever and how much ever u play. Something that does not exist. Something  as hard to find as real Holy Grail.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 26, 01:33 AM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 25, 08:35 PM 2013
Who screwed you and what did they screw you out of?

Sam , I meant I screwed myself up.  I am not blaming anyone of you for what you have done.  I totally take responsibility in you all coming out and making it sound like I was scamming you. I would have done the same thing. Hence the intention of letting you use it for 7 days. In order to protect my investment I had to use some sort of mechanism. My choice was wrong. I screwed myself.

However,  I have no intentions of scamming anyone out. Sam, if I had known you have a better tracker than the one I sent you. I wouldn't have bothered.

Anyways. I think I have a lot to work on for the next few months. Which includes re-write of my application from scratch in order to run it on the web, I have to consider other technical issues that go with that.  I have to make sure I have stable internet connection, i have to make sure my machine has enough strength to allow as many users who want to use it and play online to be able to do it at ease.

Once again, I am sorry to have brought all this on you all.

Originally when I tried this application. It made me some money. My mind just said it can't be true. It's too good to be true. When I won consistently for about 2-3 weeks. I said this is what I got blessed with.  I was just returning the gift back to you all. (Yes I was charging for it but I didn't think the price was going to make me rich overnight.  Correct me if I am wrong, with the winnings I have shown you all, from $100.00 to $1600.00 and you do that consistently, If I gave it to you for 7 days, it would have been a piece of cake for you all to give me $19.99 a month. I am sure you all are saying I was stupid, I wasn't stupid, I wasn't been greedy. Anyways it's water under the bridge now.

I personally have bought bots, not for the bots to make me money but see the concept of it all.

Here is a wisdom for you all,  I know you all are good people. My father has always told me there is 1 person in life, who will never scam you and will keep his promise,  that person is a gambler.  When a gambler promises something  he/she will make sure they stand by it.

Remember, you can break a stick(you can lose with one system), however bundle the sticks up and you can't break them(play 4-5 7-8 9-10 systems together they will became unbeatable), with a little common sense you can't go wrong. The roulette wheel is playing all systems you playing individually against you. You have to counter attack it bundling your systems into one and find a nice turning point for your level of play

Once again, sorry to all for any inconvenience I might have caused.





Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Skakus on Mar 26, 07:45 AM 2013
 

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Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: speed on Mar 26, 07:56 AM 2013
Quote from: Azim on Mar 26, 01:33 AM 2013

Here is a wisdom for you all,  I know you all are good people. My father has always told me there is 1 person in life, who will never scam you and will keep his promise,  that person is a gambler.  When a gambler promises something  he/she will make sure they stand by it.


hahahahaha especially when gambler promises that he never ever gamble again   ;)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Steve on Mar 26, 08:36 AM 2013
Stick Figure Spotlight 2 - Demacia vs Noxus (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=gtAbmHvJlHg#ws)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 26, 10:07 AM 2013
Well, I said I was done with this, but here I go....

Azim

Let me say this carefully:  I accept your offer!  Send me the tracker for seven days and I will pay you if it works.  If it works like you said, I will buy the bot.  What part of that is confusing??

Now, I did NOT say I had a better tracker; I said I had a better CLICKER.  There is a big difference!

You have not screwed yourself.  All you need to do is follow through on what you said in your first post of this thread.

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DuffMiver on Mar 26, 03:43 PM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 26, 10:07 AM 2013

Azim

You have not screwed yourself.  All you need to do is follow through on what you said in your first post of this thread.

Sam


ALTOGETHER NOW.....
"AND SO SAY ALL OF US"!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Still on Mar 26, 07:57 PM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 26, 10:07 AM 2013
What part of that is confusing??


I will try to translate.  Azim was just looking for feedback, not an actual acceptance of the offer.  IF he offered it, would you accept it?  But it was framed as an offer, so it was confusing.  Then, he changed the offer because he was not satisfied with the key system built into Excel that keeps code secret.  He was not able to set up the key system, or, changed his mind and didn't want to use the key system.  He could use the key system, but does not want to.  Instead, programming ability is being focused on an online application that might make his code more secure and might make the goal of establishing an income more possible because of a better ability to control who uses the software and for how long.  So it's old model of distribution versus new model of distribution.  The feedback showed some interest so he will work on the new model of distribution because it's seems more promising. 

If anyone would like to discuss what a new model of distribution might look like, just start a thread somewhere and i will join it. 

Still 



Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 26, 10:58 PM 2013
"You will ask what's in it for me...

7 days of free trial for you. What will this do?  This will make you at least $30.00 minimum per day at a $0.10 unit level.  I am sure we can all afford at least $60.00 bankroll.

After 7 days,  I am looking at a monthly fee of $19.99 to use the application. What will this do? Give you the ability to play and make some money.

After 30 days. You have a choice of monthly rate of $19.99 or outright buy it with an option of a bot. I will give you the same application that you have been running.

The outright price will be $199.99. This will be the same system you have used for the last month Let me know the casino you want the bot for.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

That is a direct offer, not a trial balloon.  I accepted the offer.  The man has nothing to lose! 

Azim

When you are ready, I am.  I will disclose NOTHING you say I can't disclose--except for one thing:  If it works, I report; if it tanks, I report.

I'm in this game for fun, not to make a ton of money.  Even if I could sell it on Ebay, I would not.  There are people who could vouch for me on this aspect.

Good luck!

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Mar 27, 01:13 AM 2013
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 26, 10:58 PM 2013
"You will ask what's in it for me...

7 days of free trial for you. What will this do?  This will make you at least $30.00 minimum per day at a $0.10 unit level.  I am sure we can all afford at least $60.00 bankroll.

After 7 days,  I am looking at a monthly fee of $19.99 to use the application. What will this do? Give you the ability to play and make some money.

After 30 days. You have a choice of monthly rate of $19.99 or outright buy it with an option of a bot. I will give you the same application that you have been running.

The outright price will be $199.99. This will be the same system you have used for the last month Let me know the casino you want the bot for.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sam

Sam, you are right. I was offering, and wanted to see if people thought it was a steep price. Allowing the 7 day trial was one way of letting people know, I wasn't out to scam.

I have programmed the key system before. It has always worked. (NOT CALLING ANY ONE LIARS OR ANYTHING). Keeping that in mind and the response I have had. It would be wise to put it on the web.

My reasons:
1). I can control the application usage easily.
2). If there is a bug, I am sure you all will find something here and there(NOT SAYING IT WILL BE INTENTIONAL). It will be very difficult to send it to everyone. I would have to keep track of something I can avoid.
3). If I find or any of you find a system you want incorporated, I don't have to worry as to who has what version.

From Technical side right now:
I have to deal with a lot of issues.  My current internet connection, is never available between 2:00 am and 5:00 am local time.
What is local time? I am in Canada  with Eastern Time zone.Which means depending on where you are, you will not be able to use it.
I also have to make sure the server hosting the application is good enough to run 24 hrs a day. (Initially it will be hard. Once revenue comes in it, will be easy to upgrade and re invest the money).I am not asking anyone of you for money. I am and GOD forbid for that day to come, for me to beg money from anyone.
The internet bandwidth is something I will have to look into.
As I set this up, other things will come up.

I once again am not teasing you all with this.  My intentions were to do what I said I wanted to do.  Had the key part of the application worked we all would be singing a different tune as opposed to this tune.

I am once again apologizing but I now know what the response has been and what I am looking at.  ( From my side, you all have to realize, I have tested the key and have used it before. I am not sure what I have missed or what has happened).

I am not going to be gun shy at all. I am trying my best to resolve this.



 
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 27, 03:55 AM 2013
OK, Bro...........

I'm good with all that!

Sam
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: amk on Mar 27, 09:21 AM 2013
For me everything is clear now.


Just take your time Azim and when your fully ready let us know.


Perhaps send some updates from time to time on your progress, maybe once every two weeks or so.


Thanks again and hope that by the end of the year we can all celebrate your winning program!!!
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: DaDee on Mar 27, 09:22 AM 2013
 ??? ??? ??? :ooh: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: winner3 on Mar 29, 06:47 AM 2013
 ;D Look forward to your masterpiece !!

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Apr 08, 05:39 PM 2013
Quote from: winner3 on Mar 29, 06:47 AM 2013
;D Look forward to your masterpiece !!

Thank you in advance.

The masterpiece has been defeated by 3-4 sites now.

I am glad the key didn't work.  I finally hit my 6 losses in a row. Glad the key didn't work.
Sometimes things happen for a reason.

Oh well I am glad I took the losses and not you all. 
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: vladir on Apr 20, 11:30 PM 2013
Hi. If it didn't worked, can you share with us the system you used? (not the application/bot, but the logic of the system)


Thanks!
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Apr 27, 05:45 AM 2013
Quote from: vladir on Apr 20, 11:30 PM 2013
Hi. If it didn't worked, can you share with us the system you used? (not the application/bot, but the logic of the system)


Thanks!


Sorry for the late response. I thought I did say, I was playing about 10 systems. Repeaters being main, Cold numbers, EC bets and tracking trends for inside numbers.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 12:42 AM 2015
I am looking to give this out on a monthly basis.

The current version only plays Bet Voyager no zero fun table . Web based with Google Chrome as a browser.
It does need a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080.

If your screen resolution is right it will ask you to register. I will be giving the key out to first 20 people.

Wait to hear what their feed back is and I will decide what I want to do after.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 01:52 AM 2015
Shame my max screen res is only 1440 x 900 pix  :-[

I would love to have tested and fed you back info/thoughts.

Maybe I will have to invest in a new laptop.......this one still needs a cranking handle start every morning.  :lol:
Good luck with the tests
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 02:00 AM 2015
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 01:52 AM 2015
Shame my max screen res is only 1440 x 900 pix  :-[

I would love to have tested and fed you back info/thoughts.

Maybe I will have to invest in a new laptop.......this one still needs a cranking handle start every morning.  :lol:
Good luck with the tests

I really don't want to waste time. However. Give me a couple of hours and I will upload one for you.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 02:37 AM 2015
I wouldn't want to waste any of your time Azim.

I'm running on Vista machine......17" laptop so small by desk top screen abilities.
If you do, I'm very grateful in advance  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 02:42 AM 2015
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 02:37 AM 2015
I wouldn't want to waste any of your time Azim.

I'm running on Vista machine......17" laptop so small by desk top screen abilities.
If you do, I'm very grateful in advance  :thumbsup:

Can you run the web based Bet voyager and do a screen capture and email it to me.

See your pm for my email address.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 05, 06:01 AM 2015
hi azim tried running it it says wait for a newer version
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 08:10 AM 2015
Lets try this one.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 08:12 AM 2015
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 05, 06:01 AM 2015
hi azim tried running it it says wait for a newer version

Your display is lower..  It needs a minimum of 1280 x 800 screen resolution

You have 1366 x 768.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 04:51 PM 2015
Hi Azim
I tried the new download version above.... and made sure my screen res was 1280 x 800

Still didn't open.
It flashed on hitting "Open" button, but nothing.
Here is what I get.
(I also tried it on my max screen res 1440 x 900 and same result)

Cheers
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 04:54 PM 2015
Chris It's a zip file . Unzip it and  you should get 2 files.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 05, 04:57 PM 2015
Right.....thought it would unzip itself! how dumb am I....(don't answer that anyone....except Lady K that is! lol)  :girl_to:

Edit:

Yes, its asking me for a 'License Key'........
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 05, 08:13 PM 2015
Here is the bot playing on no zero bet voyager.

link:://1drv.ms/1g2xk5h (link:://1drv.ms/1g2xk5h)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: ozon on Sep 06, 08:21 AM 2015
 What is the biggest drowdawn ever seen, how many units?
What do you suggest about  bankroll to play?
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 06, 05:23 PM 2015
Quote from: ozon on Sep 06, 08:21 AM 2015
What is the biggest drowdawn ever seen, how many units?
What do you suggest about  bankroll to play?

i have always suggested a bankroll of 10 times the unit you want to profit per day/session/ hour whatever you decide.

The bot I am playing is set at 1500 units.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Hermes on Sep 07, 11:40 AM 2015
"I know of a guy who chopped his dog's back leg off so he could make more money begging on the streets, you wouldn't do that would you?" Terrible, but it is standard procedure of all present governments and multimedia!
I am still trading Forex although it is not for silly players. With the corporal micro trading it get's only worse.
We can expect Armageddon end of the September when the idiots launch the CERN !!!
Cheers Hermes
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 07, 04:38 PM 2015
Quote from: Hermes on Sep 07, 11:40 AM 2015
"I know of a guy who chopped his dog's back leg off so he could make more money begging on the streets, you wouldn't do that would you?" Terrible, but it is standard procedure of all present governments and multimedia!
I am still trading Forex although it is not for silly players. With the corporal micro trading it get's only worse.
We can expect Armageddon end of the September when the idiots launch the CERN !!!
Cheers Hermes

It's always the idiots who want to fall for the scams out there.(That's why the scammers say they have tested it for a particular  casino.)

I have said this over and over..  I will create a bot with my systems to suit your favorite casino.

I have never forced anyone to play at a certain site and will never ever do so. I don't believe in sending people to the grave.

That's why this bot will only play on fun money at  Bet Voyager.

Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 07, 06:30 PM 2015
I have had a bug in the bot especially with Bet Voyager.    It does the spin and not reading the winning numbers.

I also have another issue to deal with..  When placing bet's on Bet Voyager layout there is a tip which comes up and shows you the odds and the payout. Hence if I have to make a 3-4 unit bet. The tip is blocking the bot to make a bet on the next number.

Example if i am placing a bet on 28  and the tip shows up i can't place a bet on 29 for some reason. I am working on resolving that issue.

Time to take a break from roulette for now.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 07, 06:44 PM 2015
@Azim

Thanks for all your efforts and hard work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Chrisbis on Sep 08, 02:04 AM 2015
Here is a video link of the bot in action. Even with the bug, it still went up in BR .

link:://1drv.ms/1EQm47I (link:://1drv.ms/1EQm47I)

For those interested.
cheers
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Sep 12, 08:50 PM 2015
For those that want to try this out.

Unzip this file.

Pick any site you want. If it's live pick the title of the window from the list and hit capture.

If it's RNG do a spin and after click on the capture button.

It will create a file called CasinoBotSetup.bmp email me the file.

PM me for my email.

Thanks and good luck everyone in the future.
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Oct 30, 12:04 AM 2015
I have so far had all my bot's run on RNG's.

Thanks to RouletteGhost, I can now run them on live feed without the fear of getting disconnected.

Here is a video for you, it's 25 minutes long.

link:://1drv.ms/1Wl8ZeT (link:://1drv.ms/1Wl8ZeT)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Nov 06, 11:14 AM 2015
Last one from me to you all.

link:://1drv.ms/1L1f5VD (link:://1drv.ms/1L1f5VD)
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 10, 06:03 PM 2015
Quote from: Azim on Nov 06, 11:14 AM 2015
Last one from me to you all.

link:://1drv.ms/1L1f5VD (link:://1drv.ms/1L1f5VD)

i wanted to watch this but it says no longer available

whether you are on a leave of absence or are done forever thanks for the testing and help and having faith in my quads method  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I like to hear feedback.
Post by: Azim on Nov 10, 11:58 PM 2015
Just on a mission to see how good my bot is...

Trying to turn 1000 into 10000

have reached 6600 so far with no bust.

Looking for a new screen capture program.

For what it's worth here is one of the winning session.

link:://1drv.ms/1O2MaoT (link:://1drv.ms/1O2MaoT)