is it possible to beat the house advantage in roulette with statistics ?
try this :
1. -Find the average of all ball revolutions time on same dealer in CW direction at 1000 Throws and 1000 for ACW direction (u need average time when ball start circle until hit wheel)
2. -Find the average number of pockets passes when the ball hits the wheel and until stop in 1000 throws.
3. -Find the average number of wheel rotations for average time for all ball revolutions time u got for that dealer.(phase 1)
*Then use average rotor revolution time for obtained average ball revolution time for that dealer+average ball bounce for that wheel and bet on 7 numbers (biggest bet on target number and lower bet on surrounding three pockets on both sides).
Of course there is a lot of other factors for hitting the sector where ball will land, but this statistic is alone enough to defeat European Roulette.(i have no proof but You have to believe me) :)
speed
to simplify things
for example:
1. average ball revolutions time is 15.5 sec
2. average ball bounce is 7 pockets
3. rotor have average 5.5 revolutions per 15.5 sec
then target number is on oposite side of wheel from a number who was under the ball when spin beginning+7 pockets for ball bounce
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Does anyone understand what I'm talking?
i get what you are saying and funnily enough i was watching a youtube video 2 days ago and was watching the revolutions of the ball and where it was landing...thats where the man was putting the bet on...and it seemed 2 sections of the wheel back...where it matched a certain point on wheel...so for example when the ball passed 5 or 6 times at a certain spot he seemed to bet not the numbers that was at that point but a few sections back i,ll see if i can find the link
there we go i thought it was pretty interesting
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=SbNFa6LOqPo (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=SbNFa6LOqPo)
That is jafco's vb. Its one of the better vb courses around, but that demo is on a very easily beaten wheel. don't listen to what people like 'forester' say about jafco. Jafco's computers and vb are actually much better than forester's. Forester tends to attack people with something better than what he has.
see link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth/ that has an entire free visual ballistics course. Nevertheless there are many problems with vb and there are much better ways to beat roulette.
speed, you are on the right track except roulette deals more with complete revolutions rather than direct averages, same with vb.
Bit of fun.....having recently seen the best people here change tack. I wonder if the psychological phases of murderers which are so written in stone, Aura phase, trolling phase......through to phase 7: depression phase, can be applied to roulette players...using other phases to stereotype a serial roulette player
Excitement phase: learning roulette, having a few wins lobbing chips everywhere, seeing an oppertunity...playing silly systems.
realisation phase: realising you lose...learn martys, labbys, e/c bets
realisation phase 2: get more complex..learn some dozen bets,learn progressions. look at limitations of random (dozens sleep for 24 etc)
confidence phase: invent systems...realise progressions don't work..find law of the 3rd...look at repeaters. (the serial roulette player is getting confident now) start refering to random like it is a noun. become obsessed with BOTs
technical phase: talk about entry points and exit points, standard deviation, wait for 3SD, attack...regress
reflection phase: after no success, look at VB, start hallucinating, believing dealers are throwing the ball different and have signatures.
final phase: CHEAT
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Mar 21, 06:13 PM 2013
final phase: CHEAT
:thumbsup:
Einstein remarked about stealing money when the croupier wasn't looking...I heard he was pretty smart...maybe there's something to that
this system is best to play online, you need a only 1 sec from start of spin to determine the target number and has nothing with the regular VB for what u need more time after spin start and specific wheel. This can be played in all casino conditions
and with all wheels.
Turner, harsh words, especially inaccurate, but interesting
I'm not given up from my deviation, this is just a new way that has so far proved successful. :)
Quote from: speed on Mar 22, 02:46 AM 2013
this system is best to play online, you need a only 1 sec from start of spin to determine the target number and has nothing with the regular VB for what u need more time after spin start and specific wheel. This can be played in all casino conditions
and with all wheels.
Turner, harsh words, especially inaccurate, but interesting
I'm not given up from my deviation, this is just a new way that has so far proved successful. :)
Bit of fun speed....more directed at myself really than anyone else
Turner you talk about all this like it is uncoditional route to realizing you can't make money from this game anyhow..
Quote from: Turner on Mar 21, 06:13 PM 2013
technical phase: talk about entry points and exit points, standard deviation, wait for 3SD, attack...regress
Let me show you a bit how realization phase for this looks like. No need to go to the far end (cheating) It is enough to settle yourself here :girl_to:
This graph for example is for outside EC-s, most volatile bets in our game.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: Drazen on Mar 22, 04:19 AM 2013
Turner you talk about all this like it is uncoditional route to realizing you can't make money from this game anyhow..
Let me show you a bit how realization phase for this looks like. No need to go to the far end (cheating) It is enough to settle yourself here :girl_to:
This graph for example is for outside EC-s, most volatile bets in our game.
Regards
Drazen
Nice looking graph Drazen. No outrageous drawdowns. Looks to me like a very playable method, whatever it is.
GLC
@Turner
Do not forget the phase of winning just one unit pro attack!
Speed, this makes much more sense than deviation stuff
what could be the average margin of error for this? its a little bit unrealistic to grab 2k spins then start calculating... we might want to get 10-20 spins calculate then apply the margin of error say +/- 5?
This is an old thread but want to bring it again into life, has somebody tested this ?
does it work ?
Good find. The forum wasn't ready yet back then for this.....maybe Now ?
Quote from: Steve on Mar 21, 05:40 PM 2013
Nevertheless there are many problems with vb and there are much better ways to beat roulette.
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Very interesting statement, indeed !