I have done some test and some money play using parlay on other bets than ECs.
That I did some good winnings from was the lines.
We start with a line using any bet selection we like, we try to find a double hit.
We try 12 times using the same bet, if no hit in 12 played spins we add a chip to the bet.
If we hit we try to sixfold the winning parlay all.
After a successfully parlay we reduce the bet, the amount depends on how far back we are or if we think we have a hot line.
On a decent plus we reduce to one chip.
If the parlay miss, we add a chip and try up to 12 times before we increase again.
We can win very fast if we have some luck.
i like part of your betting where you say LUCK...if only we could have timed this one... :sad2:
I tried on five lines at the time, got no significant downdrown.
Using five lines dramatic increase the opportunity to get a double hit. We treat all lines with its own progression.
Double hits on a few parlayed chips pays out well, about as straight ups.
Test in fun or low before using a new method, nothing says it can not go deep down at any point.
If we use streets the likehood of double hit is less, but it pays when it does hit. This was 90 down at most.
We may need about 1000 units in bankroll.
We add a chip after a missed parlay or after 24 miss in a row on a street. Session is normally finish before a 24 missed street.
If we use streets we can easy reach the table limit as we 12 fold the parlay. Just 5 Euro is to reach the table limit at BV NZ.
I got 8 and had to use the plein as well. 8 Euro bet becomes 84 units with a payout of over 1000 minus the other bets.
A good run makes a lot, and the risk is moderat, but beware it is allways risk to lose money. Downdrown were about 400.
I lovvve parlays. :love: :love: :love: :love:
I have tested lines and streets using the flat bet parlay method. Streets take too long to play for a win sometimes. With lines, it's much faster. I play until I'm down 20 units starting with 1 unit and then I move to starting with 2 units until I'm down 60 units, etc..... I never drop my starting unit size until I make a profit, meaning if I'm starting my bets with 2 units, and I hit and am only down say 15 units, I don't drop down to starting with 1 unit even though a quick hit would make a couple of units. I stay at 2 units for a larger win if I get a hit right away.
I haven't really tried it betting multiple lines. I usually play Follow-The-Last so I catch any repeat.
Once again, a large bank is essential.
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Mar 30, 06:20 PM 2013
I lovvve parlays. :love: :love: :love: :love:
I have tested lines and streets using the flat bet parlay method. Streets take too long to play for a win sometimes. With lines, it's much faster. I play until I'm down 20 units starting with 1 unit and then I move to starting with 2 units until I'm down 60 units, etc..... I never drop my starting unit size until I make a profit, meaning if I'm starting my bets with 2 units, and I hit and am only down say 15 units, I don't drop down to starting with 1 unit even though a quick hit would make a couple of units. I stay at 2 units for a larger win if I get a hit right away.
I haven't really tried it betting multiple lines. I usually play Follow-The-Last so I catch any repeat.
Once again, a large bank is essential.
GLC
There is problem using streets, the 12 fold parlay will at most casinos risk to hit the table limit, and a bad run can then not recover when it at last hit. Lines goes very well. and using a few increase the chance of the double hit, but needs more in bank.
Once I just for show I bet an EC and went to a line after two hits, just to show voodoo can work, we used triple hit lines. Over 10000 spins it went plus. Robin H had showed the same first.
I had to changed to an other casino due to payout restriction. At Dublin it is a risk a line will hit the table limit as well, and it can be on lines as well. Here I think we have to use 0.1 as ground chip to avoid the risk of hitting the table limit. We can decrease the bet at any plus to keep us under the table limit. It happens we get downdrawn and then we must be able to bet in full on the parlay at the time we got the hit.
It is hard to run all lines to be ready in time at a live table. I then use fewer lines. Rebet and change can make it faster, but it is stress in it using time pressure while playing.
hi, ralph
so you play like this: bet on line X 1unit, line X hit, you won 6 units. Now you bet one more time 6 units on same line?
thanks
Quote from: biagle on Apr 01, 05:58 PM 2013
hi, ralph
so you play like this: bet on line X 1unit, line X hit, you won 6 units. Now you bet one more time 6 units on same line?
thanks
We parlay all, so the first hit gives 6x, we bet that next bet which on a double hit pays 36x the first bet. 2 x 12 x 72.
If we use streets it is a 144x bet on a double hit, that's why we can hit table limit 10 x 120 = 1440.
Can we find a double hit fast we can get large winnings.
I was trying a street parlay, start using 100 Euro and was on two units on a double hit, down in bankroll to 57 before the hit.
2 Euro got 24 and the parlay hit and then 24 times 12.
If we can accept to lose more often for a larger win, this is one of the ways.
lol ralph check this out!
started with 0.01 and +1 unit after 12spins
and after this ~25euro down, i gived up :o
this was on double streets with 0.05 starting bet, +1 after 6 miss
Double streets are faster, a street can take some time, and needs a bankroll for it. We are better off if we use NOZ, especially if we use progression on several streets.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 11, 11:40 PM 2013
Double streets are faster, a street can take some time, and needs a bankroll for it. We are better off if we use NOZ, especially if we use progression on several streets.
Hey Ralph, this may be a little off topic but do you often get 'connection problem please restart' message? Do you know any fix to that based on your experiences?
yesterday in ~5 hours i got reset 2 times
Sometimes there are problems with the connections at BV. Yesterday and the day before it was a lot.
It is not fun if we have a larger bet, as everything left on the table goes to the house. It has happen only once for me.
hey, big thanks ralph for this idea
When I was playing very heavily at BV some 18 months ago, after every ending session of my bots, I would exit the game module, get back to BetVoyager main screen, and then exit (effectively logging out) that screen, and leave for a good few minutes before starting a new session.
Each session lasted between 20-30 mins.
I found I reduced the number of losses to house (as identified by Ralph), to almost Zero.
Also, never play on Mondays....its they service schedule time!
Good posts guys :thumbsup:
chrisbis why no more heavy play?
its coming soon, was awaiting a bankroll to arrive, and we have just finished a massive 3 month job, so I may well be in a position to get jiggy with it promptly!! lol
:xd:
A hot line hitting three times in a row we see every day. I tried to parlay a double street twice. Starting with 0.05 cent and after a row of losses slowly increase the stake. I had 0.4 Euro in ground stake when my street hit three times. Nice pay out! It was 100 Euro in my bank.
Come out 69 Euro plus.
I saw a few triple hits which was not played during the way.
This time it hit much faster and as the session before it becomes hot, and the third parlay missed, and in a few spins the same street hits 3 times. I am not ready for a 4th try yet. ground chip was 0.1.
Follow the last, and then got a four times hit in 100 spins. Twice parlay.
The parlay hit after just 25 spins, as before a missed parlay on the same street just before it hit again, but for three times.
ralph you are really lucky.
How you chose witch street to bet on?
I was playing this all weekend and seen only one time street hit 4 times.
because im following the last, maybe you have another choise?
Now I have passed the risking money of 100 Euro, the net win is more. This took 100 spins.
Quote from: biagle on Apr 14, 04:12 AM 2013
ralph you are really lucky.
How you chose witch street to bet on?
I was playing this all weekend and seen only one time street hit 4 times.
because I'm following the last, maybe you have another choice?
Yes I am lucky. I do switching between different selections often FTL but I try to see whats going hot. Statistically it may be possible to proof luck is 100%. I use to have a missed parlay a few spins before a successful hit. So it is repeating lines.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 14, 04:21 AM 2013
Yes I am lucky. I do switching between different selections often FTL but I try to see what's going hot. Statistically it may be possible to proof luck is 100%. I use to have a missed parlay a few spins before a successful hit. So it is repeating lines.
hey, maybe you remember about adding chips after loss.. after how many loosing spins you do +1 on double streets? thank you
Quote from: biagle on May 27, 07:59 PM 2013
hey, maybe you remember about adding chips after loss.. after how many losing spins you do 1 on double streets? thank you
Roulette is a game of chance, so we do not know before which is right or wrong.
I use sometimes add as soon I would not get decent new high if I hit. Sometimes I add a chip every time a parlay missed.
One parlay hit get 36 times the first stake, it is about as progressing straight up, so it is possible to wait until 36 back, if we are happy with break even on a parlay hit.
I guess a parlay which ends with 15x first stake should be about right, so 20 x stake back.
Bankroll size matters, progressions can grow, if we do not get a double in time. If we not progress, we can try to get a streak of winning to come up.