No mechanical rules, flat bet and rapid up on some bets, at the time it looks like a hit may come according to most GF rules.
I can not do free spins easy without annoy the casino, flat bets until a higher bet is placed.
I will use NOZ as a long run of EC bets will pay too much to zero. The bank is 100 Euro, and I will play until it is gone, and see if the pocked money is more. I may stop if a bust not comes after doubling the bank
The ground bet will be 0.1 so there are 1000 units in the bank. The bets on R/B.
The first 410 spins are done and shows a plus of 127 units.
This session lasted 139 spins and got 50 units plus. Hit on more than half of the non flat bets.
Total: 177 plus.
145 spins and went 56 plus. A rather deep hole of about 200 units.
Total: 233 (22.3 Euro).
Missed a few higher bets and went down about 400 units. Got a good hitrate at the end. 144 spins and plus 72.5.
Total 305 units. (30.5 Euro).
A run of 144 spins and plus 56.
Total: 361 (36.1 Euro).
Total spins: 987.
Running 114 spins and plus 50.
Total: 411 (41.10 Euro).
154 spins and 57 plus.
Total: 468 (46.80 Euro).
165 spins and 50 plus. The sessions shows about 150 -170 spins to gain 50 units.
Total: 633 units (63.3 Euro).
So are you going to just post results or show some examples of your bet selection?
216 more spins with a plus of 101.
Total 734. (73.40 Euro).
Ralph likes to post results of his penny play. You won't get much more from him than that.
Quite useless, really.
You might actually get more use out of this video...
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Quote from: DaDee on Apr 06, 06:28 AM 2013
So are you going to just post results or show some examples of your bet selection?
In the headline and in my first post I told how I planned to play. I will check afterwards if it is pure guesswork or I see any pattern I have used. First I try to reach 1000 units, and I will post if I find anything which is not pure guessing.
Quote from: Skakus on Apr 06, 07:11 AM 2013
Ralph likes to post results of his penny play. You won't get much more from him than that.
Quite useless, really.
Penny becomes Euro (and sometimes many). And you can not find any of my postings here or in other fora, there i do not tell how I have done the play, and it is no secrets at all the methods are allways explained. This as well not mechanical as I guess.
I use to tell before I start the game, timestamp shows it is done after, and the sessions in continue whitout any red figures.
I stop the game now after 414 more spins. I chipped up to 1.0 at the end as I thought I could get away using it.
The result is rather good. During the play a method come up.
The play was on NOZ, which gives us 50% chance on an EC. If we can expect about half the outcomes to be red, and we play black, we should do whatever we can to bet less when the red falls and more then the black falls.
The play was allways on black. The betting was one unit at start, if win continue one unit. If red comes, it is a loss and we bet one unit until black hits again. We bet on black the same number of chips +1 as times we have had red since last new high.
We will then bet low at streaking red and higher at streaking black.
1 black +1
1 red -1
1 red -1
1 black +1
As we lost two red bet we bet 3 on black if red fall we bet one on black until it wins
If we have had six red losing we bet seven units after a black hit.
We will lose some higher bets, but we do not progress due to that, we progress the number of losing reds, only use the higher bet after black falls.
If black streaks we keep the bet size until a loss or new high.
If we can have free spins we can exclude the one unit bets.
I think many have done similar before, if the table shows series it works very well.
I tried this method before, but ends up losing the money that I earned.
I never tried non zero rng, but what i can say is that it does not work in the live casino, since there are many variables that causes you to lose a lot of money.
I have been once just recording the ratio of B/R in the live casino, and it turns out to be 13 black in a row.
This means that you need 1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128+256+512+1024+2048+4096
Also, if it was rng, sometimes there is a run more than 8 times, so it is not working too.
I am not saying, this always fails but, if it is a bad day, you would not want to try it afterwards.
Quote from: kimlle on Apr 06, 05:53 PM 2013
I tried this method before, but ends up losing the money that I earned.
I never tried non zero rng, but what i can say is that it does not work in the live casino, since there are many variables that causes you to lose a lot of money.
I have been once just recording the ratio of B/R in the live casino, and it turns out to be 13 black in a row.
This means that you need 1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128+256+512+1024+2048+4096
Also, if it was rng, sometimes there is a run more than 8 times, so it is not working too.
I am not saying, this always fails but, if it is a bad day, you would not want to try it afterwards.
I think you miss the point, just streaks like 13 in a row favour this way of play. And yes you can allways lose especially if the streaks are rare and you got a choppy table. On 13 blacks ina row we bet the same amount all bets, if 13 reds we bet one at the time.
A choppy table favours martingale type, this play suffer from chops, and win on streaks.
The play has been running well, for a lot of spins. The method will win if the table shows streaks and not is too choppy. As all methods it can come numbers which it can't stand, and in this it is long outcome of chops. Chops and runs cluster, many times it is not hard to find the streaky times. I have done some changes to the betting, to reduce (in some cases) the bets when it happens to run on the opposite. I played all the time black, and use low bets during the red runs. As soon a red, we expect a run and bet the lowest (if possible nothing), and on first black resume the progression.
Many numbers of black red every second time is the worse outcome . Often just a series of two blacks resume the stake back to first level. If a chop, lowest bet until chop back to black. About half the red bets fall in the streaks and get allways smallest possible bet.
Any long streaks on red will not harm, rather help.
A new level of the progression will take place once after a shift from red, we stay the same level until new high or a chop.
Some sessions I have higher ground bet on black.
Running some more, still never got a loss of the 1000 bank. Plus more than 6000 units. There are danger if we got very unbalanced to red and chops with single blacks, for long. It will not work as well on a zero wheel, the HE will dig at the bankroll whatever method we use. On a NOZ the long run should not be loss, rather break even, after zillions of spins.
I will try it some more, and a bust is of course possible.
It is still holding, most of the last ten days play comes from using the Ec play. Just once close to go wrong, but has not yet. The coming bust of 100 Euro, will be compared to a much higher previous winning.
The method is of course capable to both win and lose, and luck takes a part in it. But so far very good.
What's the wL standing on how many placed bets?
Quote from: Skakus on Apr 09, 11:49 PM 2013
What's the wL standing on how many placed bets?
I do not bookkeeping wL. All red is a miss, and sometimes it will be up to ten spins to get to new high, on rare cases even more.
The chip value is low, so it is a lot of spins, each progression ends often with 0.10-0.70 in profit.
A bad run can get the stakes up to 50 units.
On NOZ it is in a larger sample 50% hit, and all bets are on black (no other bet selection).
The method counts with 50% missing, and try to filter out red streaks with low bets and higher then black hits.
Too much chops is the enemy, streaky periods goes allways well. I use to change to new random string if it starts chop a lot, which
is about the same as change table.
One of the longest is 61 spins to gain 1.1 Euro. The shortest 10 spin for an Euro (ten hits in a row).
It is many 1000 of spins.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 10, 12:11 AM 2013
I do not bookkeeping wL.
It would be an advantage for you to be able to see how your guessing fairs with flat betting.
With accurate wL & spin count records you could also calculate the z-score, which would show you the chances of your results being luck or otherwise.
If you are testing manual EC guessing then it is not much more effort to record the wL registry, and that information is invaluable.
More’s the pity.
Quote from: Skakus on Apr 10, 01:42 AM 2013
It would be an advantage for you to be able to see how your guessing fairs with flat betting.
With accurate wL & spin count records you could also calculate the z-score, which would show you the chances of your results being luck or otherwise.
If you are testing manual EC guessing then it is not much more effort to record the wL registry, and that information is invaluable.
More’s the pity.
My opinion is it is 50% chance on NOZ, it can vary due to variance, which is the same as luck/unluck. A flat bet on an EC has 50% chance as well, in a long run it can go up or down, which changes every trials. Even a million bets can show plus or minus, if it is NOZ overwise it is in near all cases minus.
Dirt swept under the carpet is still dirt.
Good luck Ralph.
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